ERNIE ELS DRIVE DISTANCE STATS (PGA TOUR)

DMK · August 22, 2006

Look Erni Els stats, that incredible:

Year Distance Driver.

2002 281.4 y

2003 303.3 983k

2004 298.0 983k

2005 ----- 905t

2006 292.6 905r

Resume: 983k is the longest drive ever made for titleist??????????????????

:cheesy:

Johnny · August 22, 2006

I dont think it that simple....

DMK · August 22, 2006

Erni Els´s Driving accurancy (PGA TOUR)

2002==== 64%

2003====61.3% =====983k

2004====55.5%=====983k

2005===============

2006====59.2%=====905r.

sandy · August 22, 2006

Look Erni Els stats, that incredible:

Year Distance Driver.
2002 281.4 y
2003 303.3 983k
2004 298.0 983k
2005 ----- 905t
2006 292.6 905r

Resume: 983k is the longest drive ever made for titleist??????????????????

:cheesy:

Might want to add knee surgery in there as well as more impact than a driver.

Shibumi · August 22, 2006

No, no, I think that DMK is right.

When you already have the answer you're looking for, I find that it's best not to include any information which might cloud the issue. Some people might look across a larger number of players, since nearly the entire Titleist staff has switched over from the 983K/E. But focusing only on Ernie somehow seems more scientific to me. And the fact that he underwent major ACL reconstruction and 6 months of physcial therapy in 2005, following his boating accident . . . I don't see how that could account for a loss of 5 yards.

It's a provlen fact. The 983K is the longest drier ever made for Titleist!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shibumi · August 22, 2006

On the other hand, and pardon me for playing Devil's Advocate, why did his driving distance decline 5.3 yards from 2003 to 2004, while still using the same 983K? That's the same decline as from 2004 to 2006. It's almost as if there might be factors in play other than his driver. And yes, we're now receiving some unconfirmed reports that some of the other players have actually increased their yardage over the past couple of years. I know I hit my 905R a lot further than my old 983K, due to the bigger sweet spot and lower spin (yes, the 983K is higher-spinning). Go figure!

project_phantom · August 22, 2006

i'm pretty sure driving distance is the average of a player's tee shot distance. so, you can't just assume the 983 is the "longest titleist driver ever". i've read interviews that feature ernie and he has stated that he wants to play courses with shot making and placing like he did in the 90's when he won his two majors, not overpowering the course. it's totally possible that ernie is hitting a lot more 3-woods or irons off the tee which would lower his average driving distance. even if he wasn't hitting as many drivers, after his surgery he still isn't back at 100% which would also lower his driving distance. btw, no offense but the comments about "does that mean the 983 is the longest titleist driver ever" sounds like something an uninformed noob would post.

sandy · August 22, 2006

No, no, I think that DMK is right.
When you already have the answer you're looking for, I find that it's best not to include any information which might cloud the issue. Some people might look across a larger number of players, since nearly the entire Titleist staff has switched over from the 983K/E. But focusing only on Ernie somehow seems more scientific to me. And the fact that he underwent major ACL reconstruction and 6 months of physcial therapy in 2005, following his boating accident . . . I don't see how that could account for a loss of 5 yards.
It's a provlen fact. The 983K is the longest drier ever made for Titleist!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goodness we even have orthapedic specialists on this site to tell us about how long it takes to recover from knee surgery. Figures lie and liars figure (a credo used by my father in law when the sample size was ridiculously insignificant-----he was also the president of the ASQ formerly ASQC)

Shibumi · August 23, 2006

postamble();sandy,

Guess you missed my point. I was just giving DMK a hard time for drawing his conclusion from a sample of one, where the law of statistics wouldn't apply. Sorry if my sarcastic humor was too subtle.

Small world. I'm also an active member of ASQ, due to my job. Wonder if you're talking about Mr. Mairani. If so, I'm sure he'd agree with everything you wrote, except for the spelling error (being so focused on quality and all).

And, while I'm not an orthopedic surgeon, I did read a detailed article about Ernie's ACL reconstruction a few months ago in Golf Digest. It was of interest to me because I underwent an ACL/MCL reconstruction myself (without benefit of the on-site private physical therapist that Ernie had). So I know first-hand that it could, in fact, have an impact on a golf swing.

But after all that, we still don't know if the 983K is the best driver ever. Go figure!!!!

rge · August 23, 2006

Jack Nicklaus hit his Titleist Tour Model Oil Hardened Persimmon driver 380 yards in 1982 leading me to believe that this model is the longest driver ever built by Titleist!!! Empirical data, I assure you!!! :cheesy:

DMK · August 23, 2006

HI,

Thank guys for your opinion. Im very apreciate you point of vieuw.

Erni Els shaft: speeder 757 x flex in his 983k and 905r.

Thank again.

Shibumi · August 23, 2006

Thought Ernie had left his trusty 757 and was now playing a Harrison Pro 2.5.

DMK · August 23, 2006

Hi guys,

Other example.

Lucas Golver: he´s continues using 983k/Pro95 from 2003, and his driving distand stats is:

2004-------------303.4

2005-------------302.2

2006-------------292.6

wau.....steel nice driver.

RJC59 · August 23, 2006

Um does anyone not realize that Ernie had knee surgery?

It takes time to have confidence in that knee and forget about it during the swing, I broke my kneecap and I lost some distance but over time it gradually came back...

Also the man is beginning to age, your physical prime is 27.