Coming from X-22 Tour

frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12
Hi guys, looking for a little direction. I currently have some X-22 Tour irons with the PX 5.5 shafts in them. While I like the club, I feel like I need a bit more forgiveness as I get a bit older. I'm 35 years old and I'm about a 13 handicap. On a whim last week, I bought some used Titleist 714 AP2 with the C Taper Lite stiff shafts. I can't him them consistently, which kind of cemented in my head that I need some more forgiveness. I'm going to sell those 714's and get something else.



I really can't stand the look at address of a major game improvement iron, so was looking at something like the Steelhead XR pro Irons which I can pickup used for around $450. That's kind of the top of my budget. Do you think this would offer an advantage over my current X-22 Tours? Anything else you would suggest that's maybe around that price? I don't mind buying used or technology that is a few years old.

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  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,151 ✭✭
    edited Aug 10, 2018 #2
    The shafts has a lot of to do with it.



    I didn’t like the feel of C-Taper Lites, but launch wise, they did launch a touch on the lower side and spin side.



    The XR Pros, they are firm feeling obviously being cast. The stock XP (are garbage in my opinion; would go Nippon in that segment) shafts on those are on the opposite spectrum to the CTL, XP will launch higher and spin.



    Also, both of those shafts are on the lighter side which will have affect on how well you swing.



    You could check out the Srixons 565 or Mizunos Forged if you are looking for forgiveness in the same ball park.



    The XR Pros are just a modern kick back to the steelhead days for nostalgia and I don’t think you would gain anything tonyor current set. I like the black finish.
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  • gridironesqgridironesq Roseville, CAMembers Posts: 524 ✭✭
    +1 on the mizuno forged (in silver not the orange), but if you want modern distance and forgiveness the Callaway steelheads are your answer. Limited off-set compared to most game improvement irons, so closer to what you’re used to in that respect. Callaway preowned is your ticket for those with the sale they’re running right now.
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  • frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12
    Chuck905 wrote:


    The shafts has a lot of to do with it.



    I didn't like the feel of C-Taper Lites, but launch wise, they did launch a touch on the lower side and spin side.



    The XR Pros, they are firm feeling obviously being cast. The stock XP (are garbage in my opinion; would go Nippon in that segment) shafts on those are on the opposite spectrum to the CTL, XP will launch higher and spin.



    Also, both of those shafts are on the lighter side which will have affect on how well you swing.



    You could check out the Srixons 565 or Mizunos Forged if you are looking for forgiveness in the same ball park.



    The XR Pros are just a modern kick back to the steelhead days for nostalgia and I don't think you would gain anything tonyor current set. I like the black finish.




    Thanks Chuck905, I think you're right. After so many years of playing the PX 5.5 (I got the X-22s when they were released) the C-Taper's just didn't feel right or at least different. I felt like I had to load them up to get the trajectory and distance I wanted. I like the softness and smoothness of my 5.5's
  • frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12


    +1 on the mizuno forged (in silver not the orange), but if you want modern distance and forgiveness the Callaway steelheads are your answer. Limited off-set compared to most game improvement irons, so closer to what you're used to in that respect. Callaway preowned is your ticket for those with the sale they're running right now.




    That's where I was looking. I believe they have their anniversary sale typically in September. Think they'll have even better deals then?
  • Chuck905Chuck905 Members Posts: 1,151 ✭✭
    I got fitted for the LZ 5.5 and not only is it a smooth feeling shaft, I picked up a few mph clubhead speed. I actually had it beat out the Modus 120 everyone was raving about.


    frohboy33 wrote:

    Chuck905 wrote:


    The shafts has a lot of to do with it.



    I didn't like the feel of C-Taper Lites, but launch wise, they did launch a touch on the lower side and spin side.



    The XR Pros, they are firm feeling obviously being cast. The stock XP (are garbage in my opinion; would go Nippon in that segment) shafts on those are on the opposite spectrum to the CTL, XP will launch higher and spin.



    Also, both of those shafts are on the lighter side which will have affect on how well you swing.



    You could check out the Srixons 565 or Mizunos Forged if you are looking for forgiveness in the same ball park.



    The XR Pros are just a modern kick back to the steelhead days for nostalgia and I don't think you would gain anything tonyor current set. I like the black finish.




    Thanks Chuck905, I think you're right. After so many years of playing the PX 5.5 (I got the X-22s when they were released) the C-Taper's just didn't feel right or at least different. I felt like I had to load them up to get the trajectory and distance I wanted. I like the softness and smoothness of my 5.5's
    Epic SZ 10*, Tensei White 75
    Epic SZ Strong 3 Wood, 13.5*
    U45 17*, Recoil 110
    3-PW Mizuno MP18 Blades
    Mizuno T7s 54-8 SW and 58-12 LW
    Odyssey RX9
  • ohioglfrohioglfr Municipal Junkie Members Posts: 731 ✭✭
    If you don't mind used, pre-2010 irons, the regular X-22's (non-tour model) are super forgiving. I still lament that I sold mine.

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  • gridironesqgridironesq Roseville, CAMembers Posts: 524 ✭✭
    frohboy33 wrote:



    +1 on the mizuno forged (in silver not the orange), but if you want modern distance and forgiveness the Callaway steelheads are your answer. Limited off-set compared to most game improvement irons, so closer to what you're used to in that respect. Callaway preowned is your ticket for those with the sale they're running right now.




    That's where I was looking. I believe they have their anniversary sale typically in September. Think they'll have even better deals then?


    I didn’t check current pricing but if it’s 25% or better I would buy it now if you see a head/shaft combo you like.
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    EPIC FLASH 10.5*, WHITE TIE 55X4 STIFF
    TEE XCG5 3+WD,  EPIC FLASH 5W
    CALLAWAY X HOT 25* & 28* HYBRIDS
    MIZUNO HM PRO 7-PW, 919F GW
    CALLY MD 4 - 56* & 60*
    TOULON PORTLAND H3
    TM PROJECT (a)
  • FubumanFubuman Members Posts: 822 ✭✭
    frohboy33 wrote:


    Hi guys, looking for a little direction. I currently have some X-22 Tour irons with the PX 5.5 shafts in them. While I like the club, I feel like I need a bit more forgiveness as I get a bit older. I'm 35 years old and I'm about a 13 handicap. On a whim last week, I bought some used Titleist 714 AP2 with the C Taper Lite stiff shafts. I can't him them consistently, which kind of cemented in my head that I need some more forgiveness. I'm going to sell those 714's and get something else.



    I really can't stand the look at address of a major game improvement iron, so was looking at something like the Steelhead XR pro Irons which I can pickup used for around $450. That's kind of the top of my budget. Do you think this would offer an advantage over my current X-22 Tours? Anything else you would suggest that's maybe around that price? I don't mind buying used or technology that is a few years old.




    I’ve had the X22 tour as well as Razr X tour, Razr X Forged, all with PX 6.5, I changed to TT BG X.

    Then moved to Diablo Forged which were much more forgiving & helped me a lot on those off days when not firing on all 8.

    Played the DF irons for 5 years & had no intention of changing, until a set on CPO caught my eye, XR-Pro / C-Taper Lite x 4-AW, liking the less offset of the XR-Pro & wanting to try the CTL I jumped on it & one week later I had them.

    After two range sessions & two games, I sold my most loved DF irons & have not looked at another set of irons.

    These are by far my most forgiving minimal offset irons I’ve ever played & they are marginally firmer feeling than the DF on miss hits, center strikes are awesome & feel like butter, they are super straight & long too.

    I’ve tried the Steelhead XR-Pro & saw no difference in performance, in fact they were not as straight or as long, prolly the shaft.

    So you could also look at the XR-Pro irons, two years older than the Steelhead XR-Pro, maybe get them cheap & splurge on a shaft.

    XR16-Pro 9+1 Matrix White Tie 7x3
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    Hybrid 815 Alpha 20 Fubuki 400h
    XR-Pro 4-PW / C-Taper lite
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    MD Forged 56 TT DG s200
    MD PM Grind 60
    Odyssey Pro Type Black no.2 / Odyssey Metal X milled Rossie
    Callaway Chrome Soft X
  • frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12
    Fubuman wrote:

    frohboy33 wrote:


    Hi guys, looking for a little direction. I currently have some X-22 Tour irons with the PX 5.5 shafts in them. While I like the club, I feel like I need a bit more forgiveness as I get a bit older. I'm 35 years old and I'm about a 13 handicap. On a whim last week, I bought some used Titleist 714 AP2 with the C Taper Lite stiff shafts. I can't him them consistently, which kind of cemented in my head that I need some more forgiveness. I'm going to sell those 714's and get something else.



    I really can't stand the look at address of a major game improvement iron, so was looking at something like the Steelhead XR pro Irons which I can pickup used for around $450. That's kind of the top of my budget. Do you think this would offer an advantage over my current X-22 Tours? Anything else you would suggest that's maybe around that price? I don't mind buying used or technology that is a few years old.




    I've had the X22 tour as well as Razr X tour, Razr X Forged, all with PX 6.5, I changed to TT BG X.

    Then moved to Diablo Forged which were much more forgiving & helped me a lot on those off days when not firing on all 8.

    Played the DF irons for 5 years & had no intention of changing, until a set on CPO caught my eye, XR-Pro / C-Taper Lite x 4-AW, liking the less offset of the XR-Pro & wanting to try the CTL I jumped on it & one week later I had them.

    After two range sessions & two games, I sold my most loved DF irons & have not looked at another set of irons.

    These are by far my most forgiving minimal offset irons I've ever played & they are marginally firmer feeling than the DF on miss hits, center strikes are awesome & feel like butter, they are super straight & long too.

    I've tried the Steelhead XR-Pro & saw no difference in performance, in fact they were not as straight or as long, prolly the shaft.

    So you could also look at the XR-Pro irons, two years older than the Steelhead XR-Pro, maybe get them cheap & splurge on a shaft.




    Great info! The XR-Pro's were on my shortlist too, but liked the black look of the Steelhead XR-Pro. I might have to look into them again. Actually just checked on Callaway Pre-Owned they don't have the XR-Pros in anything I'd want right now. Bummer... Anyone want to buy my AP2's so I can make a move on something?
  • FubumanFubuman Members Posts: 822 ✭✭
    frohboy33 wrote:

    Fubuman wrote:

    frohboy33 wrote:


    Hi guys, looking for a little direction. I currently have some X-22 Tour irons with the PX 5.5 shafts in them. While I like the club, I feel like I need a bit more forgiveness as I get a bit older. I'm 35 years old and I'm about a 13 handicap. On a whim last week, I bought some used Titleist 714 AP2 with the C Taper Lite stiff shafts. I can't him them consistently, which kind of cemented in my head that I need some more forgiveness. I'm going to sell those 714's and get something else.



    I really can't stand the look at address of a major game improvement iron, so was looking at something like the Steelhead XR pro Irons which I can pickup used for around $450. That's kind of the top of my budget. Do you think this would offer an advantage over my current X-22 Tours? Anything else you would suggest that's maybe around that price? I don't mind buying used or technology that is a few years old.




    I've had the X22 tour as well as Razr X tour, Razr X Forged, all with PX 6.5, I changed to TT BG X.

    Then moved to Diablo Forged which were much more forgiving & helped me a lot on those off days when not firing on all 8.

    Played the DF irons for 5 years & had no intention of changing, until a set on CPO caught my eye, XR-Pro / C-Taper Lite x 4-AW, liking the less offset of the XR-Pro & wanting to try the CTL I jumped on it & one week later I had them.

    After two range sessions & two games, I sold my most loved DF irons & have not looked at another set of irons.

    These are by far my most forgiving minimal offset irons I've ever played & they are marginally firmer feeling than the DF on miss hits, center strikes are awesome & feel like butter, they are super straight & long too.

    I've tried the Steelhead XR-Pro & saw no difference in performance, in fact they were not as straight or as long, prolly the shaft.

    So you could also look at the XR-Pro irons, two years older than the Steelhead XR-Pro, maybe get them cheap & splurge on a shaft.




    Great info! The XR-Pro's were on my shortlist too, but liked the black look of the Steelhead XR-Pro. I might have to look into them again. Actually just checked on Callaway Pre-Owned they don't have the XR-Pros in anything I'd want right now. Bummer... Anyone want to buy my AP2's so I can make a move on something?


    Keep checking until your AP’s are sold, stock is constantly being updated. On the Steelhead black finish, they do look sharp but once that finish starts to wear down, they quickly look older that the XR-Pros.

    Good luck!!
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    3w DBD16 14* Oban Kiyoshi Gold 75
    Hybrid 815 Alpha 20 Fubuki 400h
    XR-Pro 4-PW / C-Taper lite
    MD Forged 52 TT DG s200
    MD Forged 56 TT DG s200
    MD PM Grind 60
    Odyssey Pro Type Black no.2 / Odyssey Metal X milled Rossie
    Callaway Chrome Soft X
  • frohboy33frohboy33 Members Posts: 12
    Fubuman wrote:

    frohboy33 wrote:

    Fubuman wrote:

    frohboy33 wrote:


    Hi guys, looking for a little direction. I currently have some X-22 Tour irons with the PX 5.5 shafts in them. While I like the club, I feel like I need a bit more forgiveness as I get a bit older. I'm 35 years old and I'm about a 13 handicap. On a whim last week, I bought some used Titleist 714 AP2 with the C Taper Lite stiff shafts. I can't him them consistently, which kind of cemented in my head that I need some more forgiveness. I'm going to sell those 714's and get something else.



    I really can't stand the look at address of a major game improvement iron, so was looking at something like the Steelhead XR pro Irons which I can pickup used for around $450. That's kind of the top of my budget. Do you think this would offer an advantage over my current X-22 Tours? Anything else you would suggest that's maybe around that price? I don't mind buying used or technology that is a few years old.




    I've had the X22 tour as well as Razr X tour, Razr X Forged, all with PX 6.5, I changed to TT BG X.

    Then moved to Diablo Forged which were much more forgiving & helped me a lot on those off days when not firing on all 8.

    Played the DF irons for 5 years & had no intention of changing, until a set on CPO caught my eye, XR-Pro / C-Taper Lite x 4-AW, liking the less offset of the XR-Pro & wanting to try the CTL I jumped on it & one week later I had them.

    After two range sessions & two games, I sold my most loved DF irons & have not looked at another set of irons.

    These are by far my most forgiving minimal offset irons I've ever played & they are marginally firmer feeling than the DF on miss hits, center strikes are awesome & feel like butter, they are super straight & long too.

    I've tried the Steelhead XR-Pro & saw no difference in performance, in fact they were not as straight or as long, prolly the shaft.

    So you could also look at the XR-Pro irons, two years older than the Steelhead XR-Pro, maybe get them cheap & splurge on a shaft.




    Great info! The XR-Pro's were on my shortlist too, but liked the black look of the Steelhead XR-Pro. I might have to look into them again. Actually just checked on Callaway Pre-Owned they don't have the XR-Pros in anything I'd want right now. Bummer... Anyone want to buy my AP2's so I can make a move on something?


    Keep checking until your AP's are sold, stock is constantly being updated. On the Steelhead black finish, they do look sharp but once that finish starts to wear down, they quickly look older that the XR-Pros.

    Good luck!!




    That finish wears? I was thinking it was black metal through and through. That's a little disappointing to hear. I can't image it holds up that well then.
  • shanxshanx Members Posts: 695 ✭✭
    Go back a generation to X20 Tours. Still have better looks than GI, maybe more forgiving too...
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