Do Dynamic Gold 120 shafts feel ‘tip heavy’ or is it me?

[mylesb21]

Ive been playing Titleist 714CB’s with PX 5.5 shafts for 4 years. Great set! I play them 2 degrees strong (33 degree/7 iron). I’ve been looking for a player improvement set of irons that have a good blend of blade-like appearance, more forgiveness on thin shots, and help me gain some distance. .

 

I’ve hit the TaylorMade P760’s with DG 120 S300’s several times now. They feel significantly “tip heavy” compared to my PX 5.5 shafts. Interestingly, my 714CB’s with PX 5.5’s are D4 at the same lengths and lies as the P760’s with DG 120 S300’s (swing weight of D2).

 

Can anyone tell me if the weight profile of DG 120’s makes the P760’s feel heavy in the head? Should I try installing PX in the P760’s for a similar feeling of weight distribution?

 

 

[noodle3872]

Oh, it’s definitely you!!! Kidding!

 

The tip of the DG 120 have a firmer tip than PX which is probably the feeling you are getting from my shaft. The DG 120 is also softer in the butt than the PX.

[Golfrnut]

It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

[mylesb21]

> @Golfrnut said:

> It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

 

The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

[Howard_Jones]

> @mylesb21 said:

> > @Golfrnut said:

> > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

>

> The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

 

Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

 

 

[mylesb21]

> @"Howard Jones" said:

> > @mylesb21 said:

> > > @Golfrnut said:

> > > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

> >

> > The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

>

> Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

> Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

>

>

I’ll measure total weight today. Assuming shaft lengths and weight are the same in both sets, the difference in total weight should only be head weight, correct? (Grip weights are similar too)

[Howard_Jones]

> @mylesb21 said:

> > @"Howard Jones" said:

> > > @mylesb21 said:

> > > > @Golfrnut said:

> > > > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

> > >

> > > The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

> >

> > Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

> > Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

> >

> >

> I’ll measure total weight today. Assuming shaft lengths and weight are the same in both sets, the difference in total weight should only be head weight, correct? (Grip weights are similar too)

 

DG120 should have a few more gram shaft weight, so if grips is the same, the set with DG120 should have the highest total wgt if heads has the same weight.

 

PS official grip weight is worth nothing, there is a tolerance of plus minus 3.5 grams even on Golfpride

[mylesb21]

> @"Howard Jones" said:

> > @mylesb21 said:

> > > @"Howard Jones" said:

> > > > @mylesb21 said:

> > > > > @Golfrnut said:

> > > > > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

> > > >

> > > > The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

> > >

> > > Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

> > > Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

> > >

> > >

> > I’ll measure total weight today. Assuming shaft lengths and weight are the same in both sets, the difference in total weight should only be head weight, correct? (Grip weights are similar too)

>

> DG120 should have a few more gram shaft weight, so if grips is the same, the set with DG120 should have the highest total wgt if heads has the same weight.

>

> PS official grip weight is worth nothing, there is a tolerance of plus minus 3.5 grams even on Golfpride

 

Thanks Howard. Have you heard anything about balance differences between DG S300 and DG 120 S300?

[mylesb21]

> @"Howard Jones" said:

> > @mylesb21 said:

> > > @"Howard Jones" said:

> > > > @mylesb21 said:

> > > > > @Golfrnut said:

> > > > > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

> > > >

> > > > The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

> > >

> > > Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

> > > Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

> > >

> > >

> > I’ll measure total weight today. Assuming shaft lengths and weight are the same in both sets, the difference in total weight should only be head weight, correct? (Grip weights are similar too)

>

> DG120 should have a few more gram shaft weight, so if grips is the same, the set with DG120 should have the highest total wgt if heads has the same weight.

>

> PS official grip weight is worth nothing, there is a tolerance of plus minus 3.5 grams even on Golfpride

 

Fyi—I was able to find raw head weights online (of course this is without actually measuring)

 

714CB 6-iron = 259.7gm

P760 6-iron = 258.7gm

[Howard_Jones]

> @mylesb21 said:

> > @"Howard Jones" said:

> > > @mylesb21 said:

> > > > @"Howard Jones" said:

> > > > > @mylesb21 said:

> > > > > > @Golfrnut said:

> > > > > > It's a different profile as pointed out above, but without knowing specs of both clubs side by side, you are presenting more variables than just the shaft. Heft weight, head weight, swingweight, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > The only specs I don’t know are the head weights in each set. Otherwise, shafts weight the same (PX 115gm, DG 118gm), lengths are the same, lofts and lies are the same. I was also able to measure swing weight, which ironically was D2 for the DG set, D3-D4 for the PX set. You’d think the DG set would measure with a higher swing weight if the heads were heavier. Therefore, I assume it’s the shaft profile, but I’m going to reshaft a few irons with PX and test for myself.

> > > >

> > > > Put the clubs on the gram scale and compare TOTAL weight

> > > > Flex difference is not huge, but a softer but might make the other end feel more heavy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > I’ll measure total weight today. Assuming shaft lengths and weight are the same in both sets, the difference in total weight should only be head weight, correct? (Grip weights are similar too)

> >

> > DG120 should have a few more gram shaft weight, so if grips is the same, the set with DG120 should have the highest total wgt if heads has the same weight.

> >

> > PS official grip weight is worth nothing, there is a tolerance of plus minus 3.5 grams even on Golfpride

>

> Thanks Howard. Have you heard anything about balance differences between DG S300 and DG 120 S300?

 

I dont have Balance point specs for DG 120, but i want be surprised if DG did like they did with the DG SL and moved BP against the tip side, but without specs or a shaft to measure, its guessing

 

[mylesb21]

Just a follow up..

I reshafted my PW and 7-iron with PX 6.0 instead of the DG 120 S300. It's probably me, but the balance feels SO much better than DG's (not 'head heavy'). I measured the swing weights before and after reshafting, and PX 6.0 puts my SW at D4 where the DG 120's were about D2. Shaft lengths, lofts and lies are the same.

Granted, I've been playing PX 5.5 shafts for the majority of the past 20 years. I'm not sure if I'm loving the P760's with either shaft yet. Difficult to get a solid comparison given the 40 degree temps here in the NY area.