hitting pitches and 1/2 swings fat

[wpfisher]

much more so than regualr swing

What is the deal. I almost never hit my regular iron shots fat, but almost always hit short shots fat. Am I coming down too steep? Any ideas would help greatly.

[SadTrombone]

What is the deal. I almost never hit my regular iron shots fat, but almost always hit short shots fat. Am I coming down too steep? Any ideas would help greatly.

Take a look at Dave Pelz' Short Game Bible. Your ball position is probably too far forward (without seeing you swing - best guess). Ball should be centered between your heels...not toes.

 

Seriously, take a look at the Pelz bible...you won't regret it!

 

-mini

[wpfisher]

I guess I didnt mention enough about my swing. I have read the Pelz book seriously 4 times and alsways have the ball between my ankles. I wanna say Im too steep. I just love this stupid game.

[SadTrombone]

Head dipping? Loss of spine angle?

 

-mini

 

PS

How does the iron setup work for you with the 50* PW? Did you have the lies altered? How about the PXs in the 695s?

[stuckntx]

Try hitting the pitch shots with the ball more forward than you are normally comfortable.

Also, try hitting a few pitches where you don't hinge much on the backswing and then load on the downswing. Just a drill that will help you insure that you are not flipping at the shot.

[g8a_golf]

when that happens to me, i just loosen up my grip a bit and allow more flowing wrist action. i hope this helps...

[wpfisher]

pitching wedge is either 47 or 48 degrees. More than likely, I am gonna bend the pw to 50, pull that gap wedge, and get a hyrbrid or 4/5 wood. All my irons are 2 degrees upright and 1/2 inch over standard. I am 6'2". The px 7.0 feel great. My driver swing speed is about 118-120, and I hit the ball high. The love them; longer than dynamic gold and it seems I can control the spin and distance better.

[SadTrombone]

pitching wedge is either 47 or 48 degrees. More than likely, I am gonna bend the pw to 50, pull that gap wedge, and get a hyrbrid or 4/5 wood. All my irons are 2 degrees upright and 1/2 inch over standard. I am 6'2". The px 7.0 feel great. My driver swing speed is about 118-120, and I hit the ball high. The love them; longer than dynamic gold and it seems I can control the spin and distance better.

Thanks for the info.

[TheNatural72]

could be decelarating thru the shot.

[mrq]

could be decelarating thru the shot.

 

ditto, you're not trusting your shots hence slowing down on your down swing causing to release to club early.

[hbear]

Without knowing more I think decelerating is highly likely.

Similar to long chips I see lots of players take the club too far back and then when it comes through in the downswing they think "oh no! the club's going too fast I'm gonna hit this thing over the green" and decelerate...leading to eraly release and the dreaded chunk.

 

Very common actually.

[MrJones]

The posters above me make a good case but I'm gonna suggest that you may be accelerating too hard.

 

When you have a full swing it's easy to get your downswing started because you feel the point when the backswing ends. With a short shot, I see a lot of my buddies bring the club back slow but then try and stab at the ball hard. Almost always results in a fat shot.

 

:drinks:

[MTM]

What happens with me is that often times when chipping I'm thinking about keeping my weight on my forward leg but I catch myself shifting my weight even further forward on my downswing and it's fat city.

[mrq]

The posters above me make a good case but I'm gonna suggest that you may be accelerating too hard.

 

When you have a full swing it's easy to get your downswing started because you feel the point when the backswing ends. With a short shot, I see a lot of my buddies bring the club back slow but then try and stab at the ball hard. Almost always results in a fat shot.

 

:drinks:

 

what you're saying is example of decelarating at the down swing. Sure you feel your upper body or your arms are down-swinging hard but in reality your club is decelarting because you're not relasing the club hence not creating any power which leads to early release of the club.

[Pdougherty]

could be decelarating thru the shot.

 

 

I had the same problem. I fixed it by setting my wrists early going back, pulling through with the left hand, and not releasing my right wrist untill after contact.

[mikpga]

Could be deceleration along with a variety of other possibilities.

[SadTrombone]

Short-to-long; Watch the posture; Tripple check the ball position.

 

-mini

[blueshabit]

If you're accelerating through the ball, and ball position front-to-back is good, then I'd look at ball position in-to-out (how far your feet are from the ball). I get real steep with wedges and miss fat when I let my spine angle rise above my normal set-up and crowd into the ball.

[mrq]

for me ball position should not have effect on your swing. You need to concentrate on making contact with the ball. I can hit any pitch shot or 1/2 swing shot in any ball position. Its all about trusting your swing. For me, anytime I doubt my backswing I either hit it fat or thin.... same as putting stroke, if I second guess my distance I usually push or pull my putts.... its all about trust...