Why is Pebble so green?

[North Texas]

> @hell_is_chrome said:

> The 6th was 2 irons for the longer guys and it seemed nearly everyone went for it there.

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> > @"North Texas" said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > > > @hell_is_chrome said:

> > > > > > > And if the USGA allowed Pebble to be dryer and "naturally baked out" there would be a 50 page thread complaining about it and people would still be making snide comments 5 years later. See Pinehurst 2014.

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> > > > > > Yea, can't remember where I read it but, two weeks prior, temps were well above normal at Pebble and and the course was dry. The USGA then heavily watered the course. I'm wishing they would have watered way less. Would have been a better, and true, US Open.

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> > > > > > I'll duck now, lol.

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> > > > > Less water would have made it too easy to lose acceptable conditions. Also, the course is short, to begin with, and plays short. If it were dried out it would play much shorter.

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> > > > Should have been more specific and said less water on the greens. I would have liked to have seen the greens be a little faster and not as soft.

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> > > I love fast conditions, period. Except in Pebble's case if small greens were faster they wouldn't hold many mid-longer shots, especially 2nd shots into Par 5's.

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> > Agree, the smaller greens would be tougher to hold. But, out of the 15 non-par 5's at Pebble, how many of them require a mid iron or longer. Can't be more than 5. And the 18th is really the only par 5 that they are regularly going for in two.

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After seeing your post, I realized that was a misstatement on my part. Should have said that 18 was the par 5 that they were flying the ball on the green with their 2nd shot with longer irons. Don't really remember that many shots flying onto the green on #6 but I'm sure there were some.

[Pepperturbo]

> @"North Texas" said:

> > @hell_is_chrome said:

> > The 6th was 2 irons for the longer guys and it seemed nearly everyone went for it there.

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> > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > > > > > @hell_is_chrome said:

> > > > > > > > And if the USGA allowed Pebble to be dryer and "naturally baked out" there would be a 50 page thread complaining about it and people would still be making snide comments 5 years later. See Pinehurst 2014.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yea, can't remember where I read it but, two weeks prior, temps were well above normal at Pebble and and the course was dry. The USGA then heavily watered the course. I'm wishing they would have watered way less. Would have been a better, and true, US Open.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'll duck now, lol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Less water would have made it too easy to lose acceptable conditions. Also, the course is short, to begin with, and plays short. If it were dried out it would play much shorter.

> > > > >

> > > > > Should have been more specific and said less water on the greens. I would have liked to have seen the greens be a little faster and not as soft.

> > > >

> > > > I love fast conditions, period. Except in Pebble's case if small greens were faster they wouldn't hold many mid-longer shots, especially 2nd shots into Par 5's.

> > >

> > > Agree, the smaller greens would be tougher to hold. But, out of the 15 non-par 5's at Pebble, how many of them require a mid iron or longer. Can't be more than 5. And the 18th is really the only par 5 that they are regularly going for in two.

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> After seeing your post, I realized that was a misstatement on my part. Should have said that 18 was the par 5 that they were flying the ball on the green with their 2nd shot with longer irons. Don't really remember that many shots flying onto the green on #6 but I'm sure there were some.

 

If greens are going to be 12-14, they need to be plenty large for the added run-out. Players would have a fit if because of speed a well-struck shot didn't stay on the green or apron. Maybe the reason behind why so many players used 3wd off #18, and still hitting an iron into or near the green.