New grip pressure study

[PNWSlinger]

14 hours ago, GungHoGolf said:

 

Tough do to when the muscles that flex your fingers are in your forearm. The tighter you flex your fingers, the more your wrist locks up… try making a tightish fist and then see if you can flop your wrist around loosely, like you can when your fingers are relaxed. 

i think anatomically, yes that is correct, very hard to just squeeze a fist and have a limp/mobile wrist. 
 

Although thats not what a grip is. You aren't squeezing your fingers into a fist and locking out wrist hinge. You are holding a weighted lever between your fingers and the upper palm section and can easily flop your wrist around with little tension while gripping with significant pressure. 
 

I think of a waggle, its like a psychological reminder to stay loose. You can waggle a club while gripping hard. Like has been said, better players only think they are gripping the club loosely because they have free range of motion going up the hands, wrists, forearms etc.

[iacas]

5 hours ago, PNWSlinger said:

Although thats not what a grip is. You aren't squeezing your fingers into a fist and locking out wrist hinge. You are holding a weighted lever between your fingers and the upper palm section and can easily flop your wrist around with little tension while gripping with significant pressure. 
 

I think of a waggle, its like a psychological reminder to stay loose. You can waggle a club while gripping hard. Like has been said, better players only think they are gripping the club loosely because they have free range of motion going up the hands, wrists, forearms etc.

 

Yes.

[MoeMoe]

1 hour ago, Ex Blade User said:

 Not true. Hold a club in front of you and grip it tightly. Have someone grab the clubhead and move it around and then keep a tight grip and loosen the wrists and arms. Once you feel it you get it. 

Fine, now get the mid handicapper to put it into practice. 

[PedronNiall]

On 5/25/2023 at 6:19 PM, ferrispgm said:

I will tell you one thing....Gripping the putter at like a 7 or 8 has made me so much more consistent it's crazy.  My speed control has been extremely good ever since and that includes putts from 30ft-50ft. It takes some getting used to, but not much.  Plus, I feel like it makes pressure puts easier by giving yourself permission to grip the handle firmer instead of the conventional wisdom of a loose grip and then worrying about how tight you're gripping it. The same goes for chips/pitches.  Ever since Monte mentioned that at a clinic 6 years ago, I made the adjustment and it's just easier.

I'm not quite that firm, but it makes sense for anyone using a modern putter to have a relatively firm grip. While the increased diameter in many specific types of grips may compensate, the added head weighting and potentially increased shaft weighting mean more inertia. An overly light grip on a modern putter will mean that the head cannot possibly keep time with the shoulders/arms/hands. The exception might be those who wrist lock, but that's essentially the same as a firmer grip, a setup that ensures the head doesn't lag behind. 

 

As to the study, looking forward to the full results. Echoes what Ballard talks about in his grip pressure video, the variance in the left hand pressure at different points in the swing, and what Tiger said in his book, that the left hand is his control hand. I've found it's not something many instructors ever talk about. 

 

I'm sure the grip company who's a part of the study will see benefits as there haven't been many readily available methods to easily see pressure variance and total pressure throughout the swing. If they offer something that works easily with Bluetooth or the like they'll probably do some nice volume after the study is fully released and makes the rounds. 

[buckethat72]

On 5/24/2023 at 12:11 PM, MPStrat said:

It’s not possible.

Correct those tendons are in the forearm and if you focus on finger tension only you are heading straight for golfers elbow and / or tennis elbow issues. 

[Louis_Posture]

Correct (light) grip pressure is only effective when the player positions his hands properly on the golf grip.

Yes, there is a fundamentally sound golf grip. Jack Nicklaus recommendation for achieving a sound grip technique is the best I've known. That is, stand tall without a club in your hands and notice how your wrists are oriented when your arms hang naturally relaxed along the sides of your body.

Hold the golf club with your wrists oriented that same way and you've achieved a fundamentally sound grip technique.

Incompetent instructors will tell you "grip doesn't matter" ; please don't listen to them.

Incompetent instructors will tell you that Tour player A or Tour player B has won millions with an unorthodox grip" ; don't listen to them.

There is an easy way and a hard way to play consistently good golf. The easy way is with a fundamentally sound grip.

[Nels55]

On 6/7/2023 at 7:41 PM, Louis_Posture said:

Correct (light) grip pressure is only effective when the player positions his hands properly on the golf grip.

Yes, there is a fundamentally sound golf grip. Jack Nicklaus recommendation for achieving a sound grip technique is the best I've known. That is, stand tall without a club in your hands and notice how your wrists are oriented when your arms hang naturally relaxed along the sides of your body.

Hold the golf club with your wrists oriented that same way and you've achieved a fundamentally sound grip technique.

Incompetent instructors will tell you "grip doesn't matter" ; please don't listen to them.

Incompetent instructors will tell you that Tour player A or Tour player B has won millions with an unorthodox grip" ; don't listen to them.

There is an easy way and a hard way to play consistently good golf. The easy way is with a fundamentally sound grip.

I used to think there was one correct grip for everyone but I no longer believe that to be true.  Player A wins because the grip is correct for him or her.  According to Mike Adams there are correct trail hand positions from under to side on to cover and the lead hand grip position is greatly determined by hip speed.  Certain tests can find the best grip for any particular player.  The grip that most believe is the one correct grip is actually only correct for some percentage of golfers.

 

Here is a description:

 

[jamesau]

Hogan's demonstration of grip pressure points in the Coleman Video (at around 9:20) is insightful and relevant to the discussion.