Went from hitting draws to wipey fades why?

[Jshap1212]

My miss used to be a hook now I’m hitting wipey fades or worse slices. I used to have an awesome draw and I went out and played around now I’m randomly slicing. Any thoughts? Is as simple as cutting across the ball?

 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Jshap1212

[Valtiel]

3 hours ago, Jshap1212 said:

My miss used to be a hook now I’m hitting wipey fades or worse slices. I used to have an awesome draw and I went out and played around now I’m randomly slicing. Any thoughts? Is as simple as cutting across the ball.

 

It's more the "why" you're cutting across the ball. I can see from your previous threads that a wipey fade has been a reoccurring problem. You've gotten some good tips and I see you've changed your backswing, your grip, and you takeaway a few times, but the slices are still a problem. One things I never saw mentioned in those threads is your alignment though:



I'm assuming the green, or at least your target is somewhere around the orange dot (correct me if i'm wrong). Your shoulders are lined up over there, but your feet are lined up 75y right (red dot), and if your clubface is anywhere near being lined up with your feet then you're basically setting up to hit a slice that would require compensation to hit straight. This pattern exists in your earlier videos too. Even with an alignment stick down your feet are still shut:



And on your earlier Par 3 video:



You hit the ball roughly at the flag despite the fact that your feet are lined up almost out of frame to the right.

As the clubs get longer your ability to square the face to the target will get tougher, especially if you're swinging a little flatter now. Not a bad thing on it's own, but the par 3 video above had you getting the ball an target by swinging outside and steeper whereas your current video has you swinging a little flatter and more from the inside, which would only make it that much harder to basically pull/flip the ball on target. Before you do anything else i'd like to see where the ball goes when you're actually lined up correctly.

[Jshap1212]

11 hours ago, Valtiel said:

It's more the "why" you're cutting across the ball. I can see from your previous threads that a wipey fade has been a reoccurring problem. You've gotten some good tips and I see you've changed your backswing, your grip, and you takeaway a few times, but the slices are still a problem. One things I never saw mentioned in those threads is your alignment though:



I'm assuming the green, or at least your target is somewhere around the orange dot (correct me if i'm wrong). Your shoulders are lined up over there, but your feet are lined up 75y right (red dot), and if your clubface is anywhere near being lined up with your feet then you're basically setting up to hit a slice that would require compensation to hit straight. This pattern exists in your earlier videos too. Even with an alignment stick down your feet are still shut:



And on your earlier Par 3 video:



You hit the ball roughly at the flag despite the fact that your feet are lined up almost out of frame to the right.

As the clubs get longer your ability to square the face to the target will get tougher, especially if you're swinging a little flatter now. Not a bad thing on it's own, but the par 3 video above had you getting the ball an target by swinging outside and steeper whereas your current video has you swinging a little flatter and more from the inside, which would only make it that much harder to basically pull/flip the ball on target. Before you do anything else i'd like to see where the ball goes when you're actually lined up correctly.

 Went to the range my alignment made a huge difference. No more slice maybe some fades but fixed my path and it worked itself out. My theory to what happened is I was so desperate to get in into out path a while ago that I started shifting more right to dramatically affect this and intern it worked for a bit, but after a while with my pass started to neutralize and this is when I started to hit the whipey fades. Got back this hitting some draws a few baby fades. Thanks for saving me 60 bucks on a lesson!
 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Jshap1212

[Valtiel]

6 hours ago, Jshap1212 said:

 Went to the range my alignment made a huge difference. No more slice maybe some fades but fixed my path and it worked itself out. My theory to what happened is I was so desperate to get in into out path a while ago that I started shifting more right to dramatically affect this and intern it worked for a bit, but after a while with my pass started to neutralize and this is when I started to hit the whipey fades. Got back this hitting some draws a few baby fades. Thanks for saving me 60 bucks on a lesson!
 

Excellent, and yes your theory makes sense as it's a common trap people fall into when fixating on chasing an in to out path. Keep an eye on that though because alignment issues can easily creep back in or drift in the other direction, hence why pros are ALWAYS checking this pre round. Next time a wipey slice pops up, check alignment first. 👍