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May sound foolish, but I've just been obsessing on watching WLD videos (what the heck, it's too cold outside to play). Never paid much attention before. 

 

Curious, at least to me. In the vast majority of shaft discussions (in the "normal" Equipment section), weight and flex seem to ramp up proportionate to swing speed. I'm 66 yo, now down to ~90SS (getting old seriously blows). Have moved to a plain vanilla R flex, 58g light shaft (though I've added weight to my TSR2 head, and a couple grip wraps, kept SW w/in my D3 - D4 comfort zone). My 100 - 110 SS buddies are mostly playing stiff in the 65 - 70g range. And most of the pros that are in the 115 - 120+ SS all seem to play at least 60g - 75g  shafts, with X-Stiff (or even 2X). This is the "conventional wisdom". Old and slow = shaft light and flexible. Young and fast = heavier and stiffer. 

 

Then I watch the WLD, and some of these guys look like they are literally hitting light, whippy ropes. I'd almost mistake them for swing trainers. Yeah, the Orange Whip I warm my body up before rounds bends like that, but not my damn club. Like, massive, "surprised it didn't breakshaft bends in the WLD competitions (looks like they are playing senior flex for goodness sake).

 

Now I'm not a golf noob here, I get that there's a direct relationship between flex and dispersion (in fact just went to a Ventus TR in my driver because the stiffer tip gives me more control without a lot of loss in distance). The more you can load it, the more you can bend it, the longer you can hit it, but the less you can control it. The physics of golf swing mechanics are brutal. And I do get that LD is a very different game - they are fine with hitting 4 out of 6 OB if one or two go 420+. Watching Kyle Berkshire is a trip - his swing looks like an flippin' epileptic grand mal seizure ... he'll hook or slice it 50 yards OB on five shots, and then hit his 6th center club straight 460 yards. It does not even seem physically possible to hit 150+ SS., but several of these guys do. 

 

But still, I'm kind of wondering why the pros haven't been experimenting with lighter, more flexible shafts - some sort of common ground between the extreme LD bombs and the ~300 average on the PGAT (which is insanely long for us amateurs, but is kinda pathetic, and doesn't even get you past the quarters in WLD competitions). Why Martin Borgmeier uses a freaking 50g ladies flex shaft, and Rory uses a TR 6 X shaft. 

 

Nothing important here - just aimless ramblings on a mid-winter night. Don't expect anyone to actually comment. 

 

 

Edited by bobfoster

Titleist TSR3 10.5* ~ Ventus TR Blue 58g

Titleist TSR2 15* ~ Tensei CK Pro Blue 60g

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Titleist TSR2 21* (H) ~ Tensei AV Raw Blue 65g

Mizuno JPX 923 Forged, 4-6 ~ Aerotech SteelFiber i95

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Miura Milled Tour Wedge QPQ 52* ~ KBS HI REV 2.0 SST

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The WLD guys are trying to maximize distance so lighter and whippier in theory would make sense.  The guys on tour aren't trying to max distance but rather find a happy medium that gives them acceptable dispersion with optimal distance therefore tend to go heavier and stiffer which can help more with timing and keep spin to manageable levels. 

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