Bradley Hughes Golf- Hand Path..Out Is Down. Anyone tried?

[rthrbgolfing]

I was watching this video and then tried it on the. range nd it produced some decent results. The issue is I don't really understand how moving your hands out won't lead to an OTT move. Has anyone studied or tried this?

 

[bladehunter]

24 minutes ago, rthrbgolfing said:

I was watching this video and then tried it on the. range nd it produced some decent results. The issue is I don't really understand how moving your hands out won't lead to an OTT move. Has anyone studied or tried this?

 

I’ve never seen this person before. But. This has always been how I’ve swung a club. 
 

 

you won’t go over the top unless you spin your hips out - open too soon. You have to think pressure up on the lead leg in the down swing as you release. This will keep the hips closed another 1/4 second.   Path will remain neutral unless you spin out and take the path left.  From my experience.  

[johnrobison]

I was certain this video had been posted and discussed recently but I can't find the topic anywhere.

 

For me, this feel is a death move. I feel almost the opposite - like my hands are going away from the target line - and if they go toward it, they get WAY out. If I'm not mistaken, most good players have a steeper (more downward) hand path on the downswing than your average golfer. IMO, if you give this feel to 10 random people on the practice range, 9 of them will end up in a worse position than they already were.

 

Having said that... I'm not an instructor and there are some good ones here who perhaps have a different experience with it.

[KD1]

I've been going down the hand path rabbit hole for the last week and I'm loving it! I have not seen this video though.

 

"Out is down"... I think what he's getting at here is that because your tilted/side bent, bring the hands out relative to your chest will in reality bring them down for you. If you try to bring them "down" then it's too much. This is a feel vs real thing. And I imagine how much out and down is a match up for however much bends and tilts you have... For me, I'm happily feeling hands down at the moment (also keeping back to the target).

 

You're not over the top because you're immediately bringing the hands back up and in while kicking the clubhead down and out inside the target line. I feel the handle at its lowest point, and closest to the target line, when the hands get in front of my trail thigh from the face on view. After that my pivot (lead hip moving back out of the way) carries the handle up and in and the wrists allow the club head to kick out to the ball.

Edited May 3 by KD1

[ChrisSP]

I've taken in-person lessons with Bradley and am a big fan of what he teaches and how he teaches. I think the two videos I added in this post in addition to the one you posted will help make sense of his thoughts on the best way to get to impact and not get steep or over the top while allowing for a more natural release and pivot. His approach might not be for everyone but I watched a lot of his videos before I went to see him and they always resonated with me. 

 

 

 

 

[Geomane]

This is very similar to the video I recently posted:

 

 

These videos are sort of my swing thought to shallow the club. Left elbow out, right elbow tucked. 

 

 

Edited May 3 by Geomane

[Rapidcat]

On 5/4/2024 at 3:00 AM, bladehunter said:

I’ve never seen this person before. But. This has always been how I’ve swung a club. 
 

 

you won’t go over the top unless you spin your hips out - open too soon. You have to think pressure up on the lead leg in the down swing as you release. This will keep the hips closed another 1/4 second.   Path will remain neutral unless you spin out and take the path left.  From my experience.  

 

An Aussie, Bradley was a decent touring pro for some years, played over 200 PGAT events with a few 2nd places but no victories.

 

A short bio:

 

Carved out a career now as a decent teacher, check his website out, has some very clear views about the golf swing, blamed some erroneous instruction for having a -ve impact on his game. Thinks modern clubs are too light and upright.

 

We played at the same club (Kingswood) in Melbourne for a couple of years in the 1980's, he was the best player in our pennant squad, I was the worst.

 

 

Edited May 5 by Rapidcat

[Valtiel]

On 5/3/2024 at 1:06 PM, johnrobison said:

 If I'm not mistaken, most good players have a steeper (more downward) hand path on the downswing than your average golfer. 

Flip that, per the thread Geomane posted above. Hand path coming down is basically always flatter than going back, virtually no pros have their hands coming down steeper. This could be a mixup of terms however and we’re trying to say the same thing. 

Edited May 5 by Valtiel

[johnrobison]

16 hours ago, Valtiel said:

Flip that, per the thread Geomane posted above. Hand path coming down is basically always flatter than going back, virtually no pros have their hands coming down steeper. This could be a mixup of terms however and we’re trying to say the same thing. 

Yes. But I was positing that pros have a steeper hand path down than the average golfer. That from P4 to P6, the average golfer's hands are already going out more than they should be and more than a pro's do. I have no data to back that up 😅