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70g TX Driver shafts: Hulk, Kai’Li White, AV White….


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Currently have a Padaym TD with the HZRDUS GEN4 Black 60 TX. I like it and honestly don’t feel like it spins as much on course as it does on the SIM but I’m looking to lower spin. It’s currently not tipped. Picked up a Qi10 core after hearing how low spin it actually is but am looking to go with a 70g TX flex shaft I will be tipping an inch. There’s a bunch of shafts you can get for between $125 and $150 just wondering if anyone has compared the lot? Primarily looking at the above, Hulk, Kai’Li white and Tensei AV White. 
 

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TM Qi10LS Hulk PVD 70TX

Ping G425 LST 3W/Hulk 70TX

G425 3H/Ventus 9x HY

PXG 0311 Gen 4 T/ST Combo/PX LZ 6.5

Vokey SM9 50F/54S/58M, DG Black Onyx x100

 

 

 

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I’ve played the kaili white and smoke green in 70tx.  Both tipped an inch.

 

kiali was lower spin and launched just a touch higher.  Longer drives but 10-20 total when caught crisp.  Could work in either direction.  Spin on good strikes around 23-2500.  Little less stable than smoke green.

 

smoke green tx.  Super stable, launched low and wanted to go straight.  Was not low spin for me.  Good strikes were about 2700-2800, mishits over 3k.  
 

d limited 70tx, Ventus black 6x, aldila tour green 75tx, 1k black all are lower spin for me than the options above and relatively stable for me.  

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1 minute ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

I’ve played the kaili white and smoke green in 70tx.  Both tipped an inch.

 

kiali was lower spin and launched just a touch higher.  Longer drives but 10-20 total when caught crisp.  Could work in either direction.  Spin on good strikes around 23-2500.  Little less stable than smoke green.

 

smoke green tx.  Super stable, launched low and wanted to go straight.  Was not low spin for me.  Good strikes were about 2700-2800, mishits over 3k.  
 

d limited 70tx, Ventus black 6x, aldila tour green 75tx, 1k black all are lower spin for me than the options above and relatively stable for me.  


Very cool. Thank you for the reply! I’ve had the Ventus both 6/7x and the TR 6/7x. Can’t seem to find a D Limited for what I want to spend, no 1k Blacks either. I have the 70TX Hulk in my 3w and love it. Seems to be pretty low spin. No sure if that’ll translate in the driver though. 

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TM Qi10LS Hulk PVD 70TX

Ping G425 LST 3W/Hulk 70TX

G425 3H/Ventus 9x HY

PXG 0311 Gen 4 T/ST Combo/PX LZ 6.5

Vokey SM9 50F/54S/58M, DG Black Onyx x100

 

 

 

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Just now, Pnwpingi210 said:

I’ve played the kaili white and smoke green in 70tx.  Both tipped an inch.

 

kiali was lower spin and launched just a touch higher.  Longer drives but 10-20 total when caught crisp.  Could work in either direction.  Spin on good strikes around 23-2500.  Little less stable than smoke green.

 

smoke green tx.  Super stable, launched low and wanted to go straight.  Was not low spin for me.  Good strikes were about 2700-2800, mishits over 3k.  
 

d limited 70tx, Ventus black 6x, aldila tour green 75tx, 1k black all are lower spin for me than the options above and relatively stable for me.  

Spot on.  Smoke Green Hulk is as anti-left as it gets among low/low shafts.  Kai'l White in TX is very underrated and good while feeling smoother than Hulk. 

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OP, HZRDUS black gen 4 feels and plays softer than the previous gens, IMO from the testing I've done.  Spins more too.  I would recommend the Smoke Green Hulk if you want something super low launch and don't care much for feel because it's like rebar but gets the job done.  I personally prefer the Kai'li White 70TX as it still retains some feel to while being stable enough.  I can't really think of any other options other than maybe the Rogue Black 130 in 70TX that would be budget friendly that's similiar. 

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TM SIM ti 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

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10 hours ago, drvrwdge said:

but I’m looking to lower spin.
 

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Given your delivery conditions, unless you feel like your current shaft is creating problems with your release...you're barking up the wrong tree with shaft swapping here. I know this is one shot so a larger sample size is needed, but if this one is indicative of what you normally see then your spin problems are related to strike and delivery numbers. A shaft can change these slightly, but to count on them to do that reliably is foolish. 

119mph clubhead speed producing 174mph ball speed isn't a great strike. -6.0* from the outside with a clubace that is 3.5* open to manage this is going to tend to kick up spin unless you have a lot of forward shaft lean. 

Going back to your thread from August last year, these numbers look like the kind of delivery i'd expect from the swings you originally posted. What became of the work you were doing there? This is all relevant because your delivery based on both that thread and these Trackman numbers is something that will inherently produce higher spin which means messing with shafts as a solution is just pissing up a rope that is also made out of your money. 

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Still doing work. I’m still steep, don’t think that will ever change. I do however think these numbers are a bit off just based on my general uncomfortableness hitting driver in the sim. Not 100% sure if it matters or not, but I’m probably not directly lined up with the trackman since I feel like I have to offset a bit so I don’t hit the edge of the wall, etc..
 

 

 

TM Qi10LS Hulk PVD 70TX

Ping G425 LST 3W/Hulk 70TX

G425 3H/Ventus 9x HY

PXG 0311 Gen 4 T/ST Combo/PX LZ 6.5

Vokey SM9 50F/54S/58M, DG Black Onyx x100

 

 

 

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