Model Local Rule B-3

[iacas]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Bean said:

Maybe I have a problem with reading

 

Maybe? 🤔

 

I'll quote Dave again:

 

2 hours ago, davep043 said:

The potential to choose between two balls should be as limited as possible, not increased.

 

For me, that's why. That's why I talked about a choice between two balls in my earlier post. Giving players that option is not something that should be given lightly, and "because it might save a little time" doesn't really meet the threshold.

 

That's why even implementing the current MLR requires three things, and "saving time" was but one of them.

 

20 minutes ago, Mr. Bean said:

So far nobody has taken a stand on the time saving issue.

 

Not tapping in putts inside of about a foot would save time too. You want that as an MLR? (That's rhetorical. It doesn't meet the threshold either.)

 

20 minutes ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

If your answer is yes my next question would be why that option should not be included in B-3.

 

Asked and answered (a few times now).

Edited Sunday at 08:47 PM by iacas

[Archimedes65]

Agree with everyone against this.  I hate when my buddies do this is our meaningless matches, certainly wouldn’t want to see it in competition.  The minute you strike that second ball, it is in play.  If you don’t like that, then go find your ball in the penalty area and play it.

 

One of my pet peeves are guys constantly saying ‘I’m gonna hit a provisional’ constantly.  You mean, you’re gonna hit your third?

[Augster]

After much deliberation, I see what you’re finally getting at Mr. Bean.
 

Basically, IF the MLR is to be re-written, HOW would it be re-written to allow a “provisional” for a ball the player is KVC it’s in the PA, but “MIGHT” be playable. To save time. 
 

I think I understand now. It’s a hard one for sure. 
 

We have a PA on one of the course I play that this “re-written” MLR would be perfect for. Most folks can’t carry the PA, but some can. For the others, the last 30 yards of the PA you’ll find your ball, and be able to play it, like 75% of the time. 
 

BUT in those 25% of the time where it’s not found or it’s not playable in the PA, the ONLY option is to go back to the tee and re-tee, or drop at the edge of the tee box. 
 

Now that I finally understand what you are asking, hopefully someone will help you re-write the MLR to include the option of a provisional when a player knows it’s in the PA, but has a very good chance of being able to play it, but not anywhere near 100% playable. So they don’t have to walk all the way back to the tee. 
 

I’ll think on it and give it my best shot. 

[rogolf]

8 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

You are entitled to your opinion. Many others, such as Ruling Bodies, have another opinion.

Feel free to pursue your suggestions for change through your national association and then on to the R&A.   Otherwise, this is pointless and nothing will happen.

[Mr. Bean]

4 hours ago, rogolf said:

Feel free to pursue your suggestions for change through your national association and then on to the R&A.   Otherwise, this is pointless and nothing will happen.

 

That is exactly what we are going to do, I just wanted to hear some views before proceeding.

[Mr. Bean]

10 hours ago, iacas said:

For me, that's why. That's why I talked about a choice between two balls in my earlier post. Giving players that option is not something that should be given lightly, and "because it might save a little time" doesn't really meet the threshold.

 

 

There are quite a few holes around here where current B-3 saves a considerable amount of time and Ruling Bodies have seen fit to draft this B-3 in order to achieve just that. Although it is difficult to estimate where, how much and how often this modification would save time it would save time nonetheless.

 

Thank you for your input.

[Mr. Bean]

7 hours ago, Augster said:

After much deliberation, I see what you’re finally getting at Mr. Bean.
 

Basically, IF the MLR is to be re-written, HOW would it be re-written to allow a “provisional” for a ball the player is KVC it’s in the PA, but “MIGHT” be playable. To save time. 
 

I think I understand now. It’s a hard one for sure. 
 

We have a PA on one of the course I play that this “re-written” MLR would be perfect for. Most folks can’t carry the PA, but some can. For the others, the last 30 yards of the PA you’ll find your ball, and be able to play it, like 75% of the time. 
 

BUT in those 25% of the time where it’s not found or it’s not playable in the PA, the ONLY option is to go back to the tee and re-tee, or drop at the edge of the tee box. 
 

Now that I finally understand what you are asking, hopefully someone will help you re-write the MLR to include the option of a provisional when a player knows it’s in the PA, but has a very good chance of being able to play it, but not anywhere near 100% playable. So they don’t have to walk all the way back to the tee. 
 

I’ll think on it and give it my best shot. 

 

I am glad someone uderstood 😁

 

I have drafted the text already in my language so that is not a problem. The challenge will be to convince Ruling Bodies.

[Mr. Bean]

This topic can now be closed.

[st1800e]

3 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

This topic can now be closed.

You can do that.  At the top of the thread , click on moderation actions.