16 degree hybrids

[PorscheFan]

Thank you for the replies on the h1 hybrid, is respond individually but I'm not computer literate. Still getting use to the forum. I have a Bridgestone j33 21 degree with aldila nv85s shaft. Not sure if that is a digger club or a sweeper. I'd guess more of a differ cuz I can't sweep lol.

 

Looks like the J33 has more of a mini-wood vs. iron profile, so probably more of a sweeper like the H1... maybe even more of a sweeper club than the H1. H2 is more of an iron profile and definitely has less spin.

[Chuck905]

Regardless, your argument was weak and unhelpful.

 

I understand the OP’s experience because I was once there, and actually encourage the 16* hybrid for him specifically.

 

Had you read the start and my first post, my 17* utility iron was going as far as my 15* 3 wood under certain course conditions. I actually had to get a strong 3 wood dialed down to 12.5* for proper gapping.

 

Life is too short and if the OP is serious about fixing his root problem with the 3 wood, I would recommend getting lessons and relooking at his fitting; that fixed it for me.

 

 

 

 

Lol right over your head!!!

 

Your Hoffman argument was weak to begin with and now your dismissing the guy.

 

Don't tell people how to set up their bag or how to play because Charlie goes for the green lol.

 

Your a contradicting know it all.

 

Dude wants to ditch a 3 wood for a long hybrid, let it be.

 

Hell, Mickelson carried two drivers at one point. You want to dismiss him for his bag set up and play?

 

Didn't Lydia Ko win a major playing an 18th par 5 in 3 shots?

 

Didn't Paddy Harrington at Carnoustie laying up some where?

 

Did Spieth play a par 4 weirdly in Chambers Bay.

 

Tiger hits two irons at the open.

 

I can go on.....many ways to skin a cat.

 

Yep, I play two drivers when the rounds matter (8* and 13*). I'm not good enough off the tee with a 3 wood, so I cut a low iron to play a second driver and wood off the ground.

 

The OP asked for advice and I gave my opinion. Its not that I don't want him switching 3 wood for 3 hybrid. I could care less. But you can hear in how he talks about his three wood and his hybrid ("can't hit" versus "automatic") that emotion is clouding his conclusions about how he does with each club. Nobody has that big a spread between 15 and 17 degrees.

 

I think patterning your game after one of the best wedge players of all time is sub-optimal. You think its smart. No problem, the OP can sort it out and decide for himself. That's the point of a golf forum.

 

You also misunderstood my point. I have zero issue with laying up. I think its dumb to lay up *to a specific yardage* (which nobody in your examples did). Toms didn't lay up to "120", he hit it as close to the water as he was comfortable doing. That's the point of the Hoffman story.

 

Paddy did not lay up at Carnoustie to win. He laid up his tee shot short of the Burn, not his green complex shot (shot 2 on the par 4) short of the green. In men's major golf, its happened twice in about 45 years (Kite and Toms).

 

There are indeed plenty of ways to skin a cat. One of those ways is to bet on your wedge play when you are one of the best five wedge players in history (Note: I'm assuming the OP is not David Toms in his prime from 90 yards). You seem to think its a good idea to pattern your Saturday game after some of the best short game players ever trying to protect a lead on the last hole of a major. That seems like a ridiculous approach, to me.

[pinestreetgolf]

Regardless, your argument was weak and unhelpful.

 

Harsh but fair.

[Fairway14]

Bumping an old thread here.  Depending on the course layout, I play either a 15* 3-wood or a 16* hybrid. Either from the tee box or a ground lie I find the 3-wood carries about 15 yards longer than the hybrid. For precision accuracy I find the hybrid easier with which to strike consistently straight shots.