MGA Question 16

[Newby]

16. A and B are partners in a four-ball stroke play tournament. Each is carrying 14 clubs — A’s longest club is a 3 wood, B’s longest club is a driver (which is longer than A’s 3 wood). On Hole #1, after A tees off, A’s caddie leaves A’s bag near the tee and runs back to the car to get a jacket. Accordingly, A carries just a seven iron on the walk to the ball, which is believed to be at rest outside a red penalty area. A is surprised to find the ball in the penalty area and in a position where A is unable to make a stroke. A asks B, who is nearby, to lend him B’s driver, which A uses to measure the lateral relief area for a drop. The ball is dropped correctly and comes to rest within the edge of the relief area but beyond where A’s three wood would have been able to reach. A makes the next stroke with the seven iron as the caddie has not yet returned. On Hole #2, the shaft of B’s driver breaks cleanly in half during the tee shot. Later in the round, B takes relief from a sprinkler head just off the fairway, and notes that the longest unbroken club other than a putter will not extend the relief area to the fairway, as the broken driver would have — so B lays the broken pieces of the driver down and sets a tee in the ground at the furthest extent, reaching the fairway. B drops the ball which comes to rest in the part of the relief area that is fairway and plays the ball. While waiting on the tee of Hole #10, B notes that his long putter is the exact same length as the broken driver had been. B’s tee shot on Hole #10 comes to rest against an immovable obstruction and the player opts to take relief, using the putter to measure the one-club-length relief area, drops the ball just inside the edge of the measurement and plays the ball.

Which of the following is true:

A. There was a penalty on one hole.

B. There was a penalty on two holes.

C. There was a penalty on three holes.

D. There was no penalty on any hole.

[limegreengent]

D - no penalty on either hole

[TerpFangolfer]

Yep D, on #1 can use partners club to measure (or B could act and drop A ball)

 

Then from the def of club length doesn't matter if club breaks...it continues as the reference length unless it is replaced. So B ok in both his drops.

[Mr. Bean]

On 2/20/2021 at 7:18 PM, TerpFangolfer said:

Yep D, on #1 can use partners club to measure (or B could act and drop A ball)

 

Where exactly is that stated in the Rules?

[TerpFangolfer]

Clarification to the Def. of Club-length

 

1. Meaning of “Club-Length” When Playing with Partner:

In partner forms of play, either partner’s longest club, except a putter, may be used for defining the teeing area or determining the size of a relief area. (Added 12/2018)

[Mr. Bean]

1 minute ago, TerpFangolfer said:

Clarification to the Def. of Club-length

 

1. Meaning of “Club-Length” When Playing with Partner:

In partner forms of play, either partner’s longest club, except a putter, may be used for defining the teeing area or determining the size of a relief area. (Added 12/2018)

 

Thanks.

[Newby]

#16 A Clarification: Def. Club-Length, Int. Club-Length/2, Rule 17.1d(3)

[TerpFangolfer]

On 2/18/2021 at 12:22 PM, limegreengent said:

D - no penalty on either hole

OMG...they always get us on these => we are all looking for "procedural" penalties, and we forgot he took lateral PA relied on the 1st hole 😜

In my limited USGA exam experience -  they don't get this bad, but they do caution to not forget about the original penalty when trying to figure stuff out!

[limegreengent]

Yes

This is one of their better "Red Herring," questions.😀😁

 

If one is asked how many strokes the player has taken on the hole then you always include the penalty area stroke.

 

But when you're watching what the right hand is doing you miss the left hand.!

 

I criticise Lots of the MGA questions but full marks here.😂😂😂