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I have always had issues with adding speed in the backswing and get on a proper plane. If I go superslow I get in a little better position in the backswing but as soon as I add speed It looks terrible like in the video. How do you overcome this?
I am chasing speed and with this awful movement I can swing at 100mph but im thinking that with proper movement I would be able to reach 110. 
 

Any tips? Maybe @Valtiel have some good advice?

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@SweGolfer This is a bit of a layered problem, but I agree with your assessment that you can't produced speed from here:

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One of the keys to producing speed in the golf swing is efficiency, efficiency created by putting yourself on positions that require a minimum number of reroutes/compensations to get to the ball. Unfortunately your backswing position above would only be considered an efficient position if you were attempting to strike a pinata or maybe chop down a tree, hah. This is flat and stuck to the extreme and requires a lot of energy to reroute down to the ground, energy that could otherwise be spent purely accelerating the club.

This is a visual example of one of the main difficult and unintuitive aspects of the golf swing. Our brain knows that we can swing something like a golf club faster/easier if we aren't bent over/tilted the way we're supposed to be, and it's much easier to rotate from a more upright standing position. This works fine for baseball but doesn't work for golf where we need to learn to move in a way that is conducive to hitting something off the ground.

I'd be curious to see your slower swings to check if they are actually in a better position or not. The main thing you'll need to get used to though is feeling like you're pushing your hands/arms straight back away from you in the backswing and not up and then around behind you. You'll want to feel like you're swinging like Justin Thomas in terms of hand path. I definitely recommend doing this with the aid of a mirror so you can actually see where the club is going. If you're used to swinging this extreme then your sense of feel likely can't be trusted until you work away from this current path.

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15 hours ago, Valtiel said:I'd be curious to see your slower swings to check if they are actually in a better position or not. The main thing you'll need to get used to though is feeling like you're pushing your hands/arms straight back away from you in the backswing and not up and then around behind you. You'll want to feel like you're swinging like Justin Thomas in terms of hand path. I definitely recommend doing this with the aid of a mirror so you can actually see where the club is going. If you're used to swinging this extreme then your sense of feel likely can't be trusted until you work away from this current path.


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Here are two swings from todays practise. What do you think? Any difference swinging slower?

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4 hours ago, SweGolfer said:


@Valtiel

 

Here are two swings from todays practise. What do you think? Any difference swinging slower?


That is definitely a more usable swing overall, yes. There is an entire subset of lower body movements and fundamentals that are lacking though:

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It's probably a bit exaggerated given that you were likely focusing much more on your backswing for the sake of the example, but your legs are basically doing nothing in your driver swing when they are the primary source of power and stability. It's an entire set of learned movements that books can (and have) been written about, so if you're serious about improving and gaining speed you'll want to seek out a hands-on professional that can teach you these fundamentals. If you want to start getting your head around the concepts then I recommend the several "Hip Turn" related videos on AMG's YouTube channel:
 

 

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