2023 Driver silly season. What's in consideration to bump your gamer?

[Red4282]

33 minutes ago, Bskib said:

Maybe it's because of their association with ******-ambeau

Wow you mean like TM association with cheater tiger and callaway with ol phil who pretty much has been banished lol

[Bskib]

1 hour ago, Red4282 said:

Wow you mean like TM association with cheater tiger and callaway with ol phil who pretty much has been banished lol

Yes, exactly like that!

[kthomas]

G400 Max

 

I'm a value shopper, and not convinced any of the new drivers are any better than the G400 Max.

 

Going to keep my eye out for a 9° head in good condition.

 

 

[gbang15]

Gamer: Stealth plus w/ ventus blk 6x

 

2nd: Stealth plus 2 w/ ventus blk 6x

 

3rd: Titleist Tsr3 w/ ventus tr blue or Kaili white

 

so far stealth plus OG has been the longest driver i've ever gamed. suprisingly the straightest as well. Can really feel the club head/face in the whole swinggg

[johnnylongballz72]

Stealth 2 is going in the bag as soon as I can get my hands on it. 
 

I would like to see how it pairs with the Diamana GT. 

[mikey15]

Out with the Ping G425 LST, and in with TSR3 or Stealth Plus 2 w/ Ventus TR 6-X... hopefully

[jestein1679]

Im starting to get interested in looking at the Cobra Aerojet.  But then I talk myself out of it.  My thoughts are below.  Can you help me identify anything I’m missing in this analysis?
 

I play a cobra radspeed xb with a hzrdus blue stiff shaft.  I avg. low 170s ball speeds, 116ish chs.   I’m a plus one.  

 

My arccos driving strokes gained versus other plus ones is basically always positive (sometimes as much as 2-3 strokes) unless I just have an awful round and hit a couple ob or something like that.  My last 50 rounds +1.5 distance, +.3 accuracy, -.6 penalties vs plus one.  I hit 46% of fairways.  
 

What is the chances that some new driver helps me significantly? I’m not going to gain chs through a new driver right?   If so, the only way it helps me is through dispersion?  
 

Assuming I’m correct, I am going to have no way of really knowing if this new driver helps dispersion by hitting a few in a sim.  Sure it might feel great, it doesn’t mean it’s going to perform better long term.  So it’s basically a $500 flyer.  
 

Am I missing anything here?  Have any low handicap golfers seen a significant ball speed/chs speed jump in a driver purchase alone?  Can you really tell your dispersion is going to improve through 20 swings in a sim?

 

Thanks for any suggestions that I might be missing

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by jestein1679

[Vlade15]

9 hours ago, jestein1679 said:

Im starting to get interested in looking at the Cobra Aerojet.  But then I talk myself out of it.  My thoughts are below.  Can you help me identify anything I’m missing in this analysis?
 

I play a cobra radspeed xb with a hzrdus blue stiff shaft.  I avg. low 170s ball speeds, 116ish chs.   I’m a plus one.  

 

My arccos driving strokes gained versus other plus ones is basically always positive (sometimes as much as 2-3 strokes) unless I just have an awful round and hit a couple ob or something like that.  My last 50 rounds +1.5 distance, +.3 accuracy, -.6 penalties vs plus one.  I hit 46% of fairways.  
 

What is the chances that some new driver helps me significantly? I’m not going to gain chs through a new driver right?   If so, the only way it helps me is through dispersion?  
 

Assuming I’m correct, I am going to have no way of really knowing if this new driver helps dispersion by hitting a few in a sim.  Sure it might feel great, it doesn’t mean it’s going to perform better long term.  So it’s basically a $500 flyer.  
 

Am I missing anything here?  Have any low handicap golfers seen a significant ball speed/chs speed jump in a driver purchase alone?  Can you really tell your dispersion is going to improve through 20 swings in a sim?

 

Thanks for any suggestions that I might be missing

 

You pretty much have your answer.  You wont be able to tell from just a short fitting.  The odds that any driver will significantly improve any metric (speed, distance, dispersion) is slim.  Very small incremental gains is all you will see unless you are in the complete wrong combo.  And most of the time, somebody who is playing at a plus would not be too far off.

People may disagree.  I am sure there is a rare case where a 1-2 year driver jump will really help.  Personally, I have never seen it.  Most people will probably end up saying just depends if its the right head/shaft combo for you.

[BagofToast]

10 hours ago, jestein1679 said:

Im starting to get interested in looking at the Cobra Aerojet.  But then I talk myself out of it.  My thoughts are below.  Can you help me identify anything I’m missing in this analysis?
 

I play a cobra radspeed xb with a hzrdus blue stiff shaft.  I avg. low 170s ball speeds, 116ish chs.   I’m a plus one.  

 

My arccos driving strokes gained versus other plus ones is basically always positive (sometimes as much as 2-3 strokes) unless I just have an awful round and hit a couple ob or something like that.  My last 50 rounds +1.5 distance, +.3 accuracy, -.6 penalties vs plus one.  I hit 46% of fairways.  
 

What is the chances that some new driver helps me significantly? I’m not going to gain chs through a new driver right?   If so, the only way it helps me is through dispersion?  
 

Assuming I’m correct, I am going to have no way of really knowing if this new driver helps dispersion by hitting a few in a sim.  Sure it might feel great, it doesn’t mean it’s going to perform better long term.  So it’s basically a $500 flyer.  
 

Am I missing anything here?  Have any low handicap golfers seen a significant ball speed/chs speed jump in a driver purchase alone?  Can you really tell your dispersion is going to improve through 20 swings in a sim?

 

Thanks for any suggestions that I might be missing

 

 

22 minutes ago, Vlade15 said:

You pretty much have your answer.  You wont be able to tell from just a short fitting.  The odds that any driver will significantly improve any metric (speed, distance, dispersion) is slim.  Very small incremental gains is all you will see unless you are in the complete wrong combo.  And most of the time, somebody who is playing at a plus would not be too far off.

People may disagree.  I am sure there is a rare case where a 1-2 year driver jump will really help.  Personally, I have never seen it.  Most people will probably end up saying just depends if its the right head/shaft combo for you.

You both bring up good points. Year to year you most likely won’t see much if any improvement. 
 

Now if you get the right shaft for you, you might see some gains but that’s not the head doing all the work. 
 

I personally have only seen any large gain was from my M6 driver to SIM2 Max. I gained some ball speed and dispersion was tighter by a lot.  

[MMB1500]

Mizuno STZ-220 with Fuji Speeder NX.