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Yeah, that Classic FW looks like a Tour Edge fairway with that deep face. I'd love to try the 14 degree....

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Love the driver and wedges but think Tour Edge, with their Trilogy and Xrail line, has the Cleveland hybrid tech beat.

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I saw and hit most of the stuff today. The Classic XL and classic fwy have the single worst alignment aid in history. (Classic XL is within a whisker of being as deep as the 290.) With any luck, the alignment aid will change before the clubs are released. Just horrible.

The irons, well, different. Bigger than I thought. All of them are definitely GI irons. You can see the cavity in the TT 6 iron, for example. I like the matchability aspect. Gonna be a lot of people splitting sets. Lofts and lies are perfect matches for all 3 sets.


LOVE the wedges. Love them. Awesome look. Cleaner than what they are replacing. Gonna be a huge year for wedges! Putters as well. Cleveland is killing the sub $100 putter category. New putters look clean and gorgeous.

Didn't see the Custom driver. Gonna be a bit before I get to hit it.

If you have questions, ask away.

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[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1346110047' post='5545383']

Cleveland is killing the sub $100 putter category. New putters look clean and gorgeous.

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Can you elaborate? What do they look like, features, etc.

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[quote name='HateTheHighDraw' timestamp='1345579818' post='5511354']
Classic fairway looks DEEP. Nice change up on the hybrid, looks like an incremental upgrade to the mashie but with different rails and a black crown.

I find it weird, however, that they aren't using Miyazaki shafts in the fairway or hybrid.
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Similar to the TM Raylor from a year or two ago. Or maybe more can't recall when it was reproduced.

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The black looks sharp. Kind of reminds me of when TM rolled out the R7 Superquad. I personally like the original Classics color scheme better, mostly because it is totally diffrent from anything else out there, but I know it's not a look for everyone. The Black will probably market better.

Smacky--what was wrong with the alignment aid on the FWs? I can't really tell from the pics but it looks like its just a little dot on top.

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[quote name='BCP1011' timestamp='1346164533' post='5548681']
The black looks sharp. Kind of reminds me of when TM rolled out the R7 Superquad. I personally like the original Classics color scheme better, mostly because it is totally diffrent from anything else out there, but I know it's not a look for everyone. The Black will probably market better.

Smacky--what was wrong with the alignment aid on the FWs? I can't really tell from the pics but it looks like its just a little dot on top.
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That dot--if they leave it on whoever decides that should get fired. It's too big, and too white, and horrible.

Putters---

better grip, deeper milling, cleaner look. VERY nice.

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[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1346165854' post='5548841']
[quote name='BCP1011' timestamp='1346164533' post='5548681']
The black looks sharp. Kind of reminds me of when TM rolled out the R7 Superquad. I personally like the original Classics color scheme better, mostly because it is totally diffrent from anything else out there, but I know it's not a look for everyone. The Black will probably market better.

Smacky--what was wrong with the alignment aid on the FWs? I can't really tell from the pics but it looks like its just a little dot on top.
[/quote]

That dot--if they leave it on whoever decides that should get fired. It's too big, and too white, and horrible.

Putters---

better grip, deeper milling, cleaner look. VERY nice.
[/quote]


Yeah, that would probably annoy me. Hopefully they will skip it altogether.

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I used to literally laugh at the face depth on the Classic. But just today I picked up a 9.5 with "310" stamped on the toe and noticed the face was noticably less deep than those marked 270 and 290. I loved the look! So....two questions:
a) can I get a 310 with 10.5* loft?
b) will the all black models be similar, i.e, the 310 having the shallower face?

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[quote name='Stretch' timestamp='1345358923' post='5497402']
The video is super cool. Although, given that the chorus of that song is "I really f***** it up this time!" -- it's understandable they cut out the vocals. :lol:

Like the 588 RTX a lot. Rotex kinda looks like micro C-grooves.
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I agree with you about the song. Good catch! I think they could have found something more appropriate. Little Lion Man is about doing something of which you are not proud.

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[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1346110047' post='5545383']
Cleveland is killing the sub $100 putter category. New putters look clean and gorgeous.

[/quote]

Can you elaborate? What do they look like, features, etc.
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I would love to see some shots of the new classic putters! Do they have a blade coming?

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[quote name='johnnypro' timestamp='1346260250' post='5555521']
I used to literally laugh at the face depth on the Classic. But just today I picked up a 9.5 with "310" stamped on the toe and noticed the face was noticably less deep than those marked 270 and 290. I loved the look! So....two questions:
a) can I get a 310 with 10.5* loft?
b) will the all black models be similar, i.e, the 310 having the shallower face?
[/quote]

Yes, you can get the current Classics 310 in 10.5*. That is the model that I'm gaming right now and its been a fantasic driver for me. I can't speak to what the Black will be like, but judging from the pictures, my guess is it will be similar to this year's Classics with the obvious exception of the Custom being adjustable.

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[quote name='kratt11' timestamp='1344984900' post='5472290']
Do the new wedges have any type of grinds with them?
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They sort of look improved, from the pictures? A bit narrower sole with more heel and toe relief

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[quote name='smackygolf' timestamp='1346110047' post='5545383']
I saw and hit most of the stuff today. The Classic XL and classic fwy have the single worst alignment aid in history. (Classic XL is within a whisker of being as deep as the 290.) With any luck, the alignment aid will change before the clubs are released. Just horrible.

The irons, well, different. Bigger than I thought. All of them are definitely GI irons. You can see the cavity in the TT 6 iron, for example. I like the matchability aspect. Gonna be a lot of people splitting sets. Lofts and lies are perfect matches for all 3 sets.


LOVE the wedges. Love them. Awesome look. Cleaner than what they are replacing. Gonna be a huge year for wedges! Putters as well. Cleveland is killing the sub $100 putter category. New putters look clean and gorgeous.

Didn't see the Custom driver. Gonna be a bit before I get to hit it.

If you have questions, ask away.
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Hi Smackygolf,

Have you some pictures of the new putter line? New women range?
Thanx

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The 588 RTX CB has me intrigued but disappointed in the lack of loft/bounce combos.

PING G400 Max 10.5° (+)
PING G430 fairway 18° (F-), Alta CB S
PING G430 hybrid 22° (F-), Alta CB S
PING i530 5-U, DG Mid 115 S300
PING s159 54°-W (bent 52°), 58°-B, DG Mid 115 S300
PING Serene B60, KBS CT Tour, 35"
Maxfli Tour Yellow
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[quote name='mjwidell' timestamp='1346346198' post='5561051']
I have pics of the catalog and will post later today. :)
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Let us see them! Always in the market for a putter!

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[quote name='timbo08' timestamp='1346808285' post='5588173']
Wonder what the price point will be on the 6.0 Belly? Sub $100 might be worth giving a shot for me. Also can't wait to hit the RTX wedges! Also that video was very cool, nice job from Cleveland's marketing department with that one.
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6.0 belly--$129ish

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[quote name='ROBOPTI' timestamp='1345001081' post='5474016']
Consider at least one or five Black Classics FREAKING SOLD down here in Nawlins

I can't wait ... I love this driver !!!!!
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Robo, you sure love that Black MR. Vader! My buddy picked up the 310 and it's a beauty! Now he has the original but I love that DF..... reminds me of the good ole' R510DF Proto ( best driver TM ever made), I still bring out the old gun every once and a while. Still just as long as my current gammer just not as forgiving as these NEW drivers being introduced! Cleveland has a winner here!

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