MacGregor Tourney Custom?

zuegnu · August 30, 2012

Hey guys, I just got these irons and was curious if anyone had an idea as to what time frame they might be from? I dont know anything about them nor did the seller regarding their origins. They are very simply stamped and have just the number on the sole in a larger size and different font. The number is different from many Mac irons I have had or seen before but I have found some photos of other irons with the same number stamps but, not many. There are no serial numbers either. Leather wrapped grips with a gold pin stripe. No diamonds on the face and very long hosels. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Dcmusch · September 3, 2012

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Hey guys, I just got these irons and was curious if anyone had an idea as to what time frame they might be from? I dont know anything about them nor did the seller regarding their origins. They are very simply stamped and have just the number on the sole in a larger size and different font. The number is different from many Mac irons I have had or seen before but I have found some photos of other irons with the same number stamps but, not many. There are no serial numbers either. Leather wrapped grips with a gold pin stripe. No diamonds on the face and very long hosels. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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I want a set just like that.

seasterl · September 27, 2012

Are those for display, for play, or for sale or trade? They look nice!

BrianL99 · September 27, 2012

[quote name='zuegnu' timestamp='1346358371' post='5562213']
Hey guys, I just got these irons and was curious if anyone had an idea as to what time frame they might be from? I dont know anything about them nor did the seller regarding their origins. They are very simply stamped and have just the number on the sole in a larger size and different font. The number is different from many Mac irons I have had or seen before but I have found some photos of other irons with the same number stamps but, not many. There are no serial numbers either. Leather wrapped grips with a gold pin stripe. No diamonds on the face and very long hosels. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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Most likely from sometime between 1958-1963/64. No FC400 face? No "recessed weight" markings? Just a guess, but I'd say they were a custom grind.

Ironmaster Oddities · September 28, 2012

I think they are customs from the late 1980's. The fact that the wedge is a 10 iron and the Tourney Custom stampings as well as the font stamp for the numbers on the soles. A few months ago there was a string here with copies of a Mac custom catalog from that era. There were 4 club heads available, one of which was this big diamond. Neat clubs,regardless of their age. How do they feel when you hit them?
Bob

Johnny Hack · September 28, 2012

Those are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you really enjoy them!

zuegnu · October 1, 2012

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I think they are customs from the late 1980's. The fact that the wedge is a 10 iron and the Tourney Custom stampings as well as the font stamp for the numbers on the soles. A few months ago there was a string here with copies of a Mac custom catalog from that era. There were 4 club heads available, one of which was this big diamond. Neat clubs,regardless of their age. How do they feel when you hit them?
Bob
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Interesting that they could be that new or as old as BrianL99 might think. They just seem to have a much older "feel" to them than 80's. By feel I just mean thats the sense I get when I hold them or swing them. But, the numbers stamp/style I have only seen on a couple sets from the 80's so....

They feel great but they sure are tiny!

Ironmaster Oddities · October 1, 2012

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[quote name='Ironmaster Oddities' timestamp='1348887789' post='5715349']
I think they are customs from the late 1980's. The fact that the wedge is a 10 iron and the Tourney Custom stampings as well as the font stamp for the numbers on the soles. A few months ago there was a string here with copies of a Mac custom catalog from that era. There were 4 club heads available, one of which was this big diamond. Neat clubs,regardless of their age. How do they feel when you hit them?
Bob
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Interesting that they could be that new or as old as BrianL99 might think. They just seem to have a much older "feel" to them than 80's. By feel I just mean thats the sense I get when I hold them or swing them. But, the numbers stamp/style I have only seen on a couple sets from the 80's so....

They feel great but they sure are tiny!
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The number stamped on the ferrules could help you with the age. There is a letter which should indicate the year built. 1st digit is swing weight, then model, I think. But I don't know how long after the mid 1960's MacGregor continued to use that system. And I don't know the sequense for the years. I guess I am no help here. But really great looking clubs, any way you look at them.

BrianL99 · October 1, 2012

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[quote name='zuegnu' timestamp='1349104046' post='5730397']
[quote name='Ironmaster Oddities' timestamp='1348887789' post='5715349']
I think they are customs from the late 1980's. The fact that the wedge is a 10 iron and the Tourney Custom stampings as well as the font stamp for the numbers on the soles. A few months ago there was a string here with copies of a Mac custom catalog from that era. There were 4 club heads available, one of which was this big diamond. Neat clubs,regardless of their age. How do they feel when you hit them?
Bob
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Interesting that they could be that new or as old as BrianL99 might think. They just seem to have a much older "feel" to them than 80's. By feel I just mean thats the sense I get when I hold them or swing them. But, the numbers stamp/style I have only seen on a couple sets from the 80's so....

They feel great but they sure are tiny!
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The number stamped on the ferrules could help you with the age. There is a letter which should indicate the year built. 1st digit is swing weight, then model, I think. But I don't know how long after the mid 1960's MacGregor continued to use that system. And I don't know the sequense for the years. I guess I am no help here. But really great looking clubs, any way you look at them.
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They are odd. If I'm not mistaken, all of the "standard available" irons from the 60's with the "diamond", had CF4000 faces. That said, I agree with you, I've never seen a 60's vintage MacGregor iron with a PW marked "10" ... that's usually late 70's, early 80's ?

MacGregor (& Wilson) would make you just about anything if you asked or knew someone, so it's often very difficult to pinpoint the vintage of their clubs.

zuegnu · October 2, 2012

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[quote name='Ironmaster Oddities' timestamp='1349107255' post='5730727']
[quote name='zuegnu' timestamp='1349104046' post='5730397']
[quote name='Ironmaster Oddities' timestamp='1348887789' post='5715349']
I think they are customs from the late 1980's. The fact that the wedge is a 10 iron and the Tourney Custom stampings as well as the font stamp for the numbers on the soles. A few months ago there was a string here with copies of a Mac custom catalog from that era. There were 4 club heads available, one of which was this big diamond. Neat clubs,regardless of their age. How do they feel when you hit them?
Bob
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Interesting that they could be that new or as old as BrianL99 might think. They just seem to have a much older "feel" to them than 80's. By feel I just mean thats the sense I get when I hold them or swing them. But, the numbers stamp/style I have only seen on a couple sets from the 80's so....

They feel great but they sure are tiny!
[/quote]

The number stamped on the ferrules could help you with the age. There is a letter which should indicate the year built. 1st digit is swing weight, then model, I think. But I don't know how long after the mid 1960's MacGregor continued to use that system. And I don't know the sequense for the years. I guess I am no help here. But really great looking clubs, any way you look at them.
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They are odd. If I'm not mistaken, all of the "standard available" irons from the 60's with the "diamond", had CF4000 faces. That said, I agree with you, I've never seen a 60's vintage MacGregor iron with a PW marked "10" ... that's usually late 70's, early 80's ?

MacGregor (& Wilson) would make you just about anything if you asked or knew someone, so it's often very difficult to pinpoint the vintage of their clubs.
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BrianL99, I sort of get the sense they were something extremely custom or made for a staffer or something like that? They just have that look to them and they feel like they would swing weight quite heavy and the shafts are really stiff feeling. I play x200 in my regular set and these feel like I cuold play them without changing anything. The more I have looked at them and considering how nice they are I just want to hang on to them and keep them out of the dirt! I am not really that guy though so.......who knows?

BrianL99 · October 2, 2012

That would be my guess

'53 Precision · October 2, 2012

1980, I sold a set last summer, looked just like these...they are on page 4 of the 1980 catalog of the Jim Kaplan book. I quote " [b]Diamon Back Design [/b]This famous MacGregor Back design concentrates the weight balance behind the hitting area for maximum distance. Available in right hand only." Came with Dynamic, Pro-Pel, and Response shafts. Hope this helps...