Tourstage Z101 - Recommended handicap range?

Hi everyone. I know this question can be pretty subjective and depend on a number of variables, but I was hoping to get some opinions on what type of player (handicap range, etc.) should play the Tourstage Z101 irons?



Thanks!
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #1[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki Z 50[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge EX9 Tour - 20*, Recoil 780 ES[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX EZ Forged - 4i - GW, Fujikura MCI 80 Stiff[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Fourteen RM21 Black - 54/10 - 58/8, Dynamic Gold[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bettinardi Signature Model 6 [/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Putter Rotation: Bettinardi Signature Model 6 / Model 7 / BB 360, Miura KM-006 / KM-350, TP Mills Nellie Wings / Fleetwood, Byron Morgan Dalehead 89 / 007 (Copper, sound slot) / Channel Island Plumber / Channel Island Rincon, Odyssey Prototype 2 Ball Black / Odyssey Black Series Tour Design 2 Ball Blade[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #2[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki ZT 60[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Hybrids - HB3 / HB4, Aerotech Steelfiber[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura MC102 - 4i - GW, Nippon NS Pro[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Black Wedges, 55/9 - 60/7, Nippon NS Pro WV[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura KM-006[/font]

Comments

  • corkycorky Members Posts: 2,858
    Any Handicapper can hit them.... it's just a question of wether you can live with the results of mishits? Does the feel of a mishit iron depress you? Does it bother you that a mishit has cost you yardage? Maybe they will teach you to be a better ball striker? Maybe you are desperate to get your handicap down?



    Really only you can decide.



    That question can only be really answered by trying them. What I would say is that the long irons are easy(er) to launch due to the tungsten weighting, than most players CBs.



    Buy some, if they don;t work out you can move them on much easier than many other irons out there.
  • bmenx2bmenx2 Bmenx2 Posts: 172
    Thanks for your reply.



    Mishits don't really bother me that much as as they are part of the game - even pros do it. I just try and figure out what I did wrong and focus on trying to not do it again.



    I'm really trying to work on my game, as you mentioned improving my ball striking and getting my handicap down through course time, range time and lessons.
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #1[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki Z 50[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge EX9 Tour - 20*, Recoil 780 ES[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX EZ Forged - 4i - GW, Fujikura MCI 80 Stiff[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Fourteen RM21 Black - 54/10 - 58/8, Dynamic Gold[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bettinardi Signature Model 6 [/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Putter Rotation: Bettinardi Signature Model 6 / Model 7 / BB 360, Miura KM-006 / KM-350, TP Mills Nellie Wings / Fleetwood, Byron Morgan Dalehead 89 / 007 (Copper, sound slot) / Channel Island Plumber / Channel Island Rincon, Odyssey Prototype 2 Ball Black / Odyssey Black Series Tour Design 2 Ball Blade[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #2[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki ZT 60[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Hybrids - HB3 / HB4, Aerotech Steelfiber[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura MC102 - 4i - GW, Nippon NS Pro[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Black Wedges, 55/9 - 60/7, Nippon NS Pro WV[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura KM-006[/font]
  • Duffy19Duffy19 Members Posts: 364 ✭✭
    Firstly I do not own the Z101 nor I have ever played them but by just looking irons and the design, I would guess it is probably designed with lower handicap golfers in mind. It is not your typical game improvement or super game improvement irons. Then again, a lot of people prefer to learn golf with blade irons. For my own golfing enjoyment, I prefer a more forgiving irons nowadays, such as ViQ or XXIO or Epon 701. That's just me.
  • corkycorky Members Posts: 2,858
    I meant to add..... what you will feel when you nail one is the best feeling in golf!
  • rnd007rnd007 Members Posts: 48
    From my experience I'd say 0-10 handicap would be the ideal range. They pretty much set-up like modern musclebacks at address as they are pretty compact...especially heel to toe. But I think they are very forgiving for their size... especially the long irons (3,4,5). The sweet-spot is not the size of an pencil eraser or anything...they're pretty generous.



    Personally, these irons have helped me to lower my handicap dramatically. I was about a 12 handicap when I purchased these irons and its currently down to about a 6 thanks to the Z's. I find if I do mishit a club, usually my miss is still playable around or just off the green. With other irons I'd be a lot further away. Also, as corky mentioned, when you pure one of these clubs there really isn't any better feeling in golf!
  • tourpuretourpure Posts: 268 ✭✭
    Also how strong is your iron play?That is a better question to ask than a handicap range.If you have a consistent iron game then go for them.Having a low handicap doesnt automatically mean your iron play is pure.So if you are a decent ball striker these should help you in the long run.Just my 2 cents.
  • bmenx2bmenx2 Bmenx2 Posts: 172
    Thanks everyone for your advice and info - all good stuff!



    I took the plunge - Z101 3i - pw with TT Black Gold Reg Flex shafts (lucky enough to find a set in 8+ condition!). I'll probably game the 4i - pw. Let the games begin!
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #1[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki Z 50[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge EX9 Tour - 20*, Recoil 780 ES[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX EZ Forged - 4i - GW, Fujikura MCI 80 Stiff[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Fourteen RM21 Black - 54/10 - 58/8, Dynamic Gold[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bettinardi Signature Model 6 [/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Putter Rotation: Bettinardi Signature Model 6 / Model 7 / BB 360, Miura KM-006 / KM-350, TP Mills Nellie Wings / Fleetwood, Byron Morgan Dalehead 89 / 007 (Copper, sound slot) / Channel Island Plumber / Channel Island Rincon, Odyssey Prototype 2 Ball Black / Odyssey Black Series Tour Design 2 Ball Blade[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #2[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki ZT 60[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Hybrids - HB3 / HB4, Aerotech Steelfiber[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura MC102 - 4i - GW, Nippon NS Pro[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Black Wedges, 55/9 - 60/7, Nippon NS Pro WV[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura KM-006[/font]
  • rnd007rnd007 Members Posts: 48
    bmenx2 wrote on 31 January 2010 - 11:36 PM:


    Thanks everyone for your advice and info - all good stuff!



    I took the plunge - Z101 3i - pw with TT Black Gold Reg Flex shafts (lucky enough to find a set in 8+ condition!). I'll probably game the 4i - pw. Let the games begin!






    I don't think you'll be disappointed. I took a leap when I bought mine purely based on all the good reviews on this website and couldn't be happier. Those TT Black Gold shafts should make them feel extra good image/clapping.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clapping:' /> . Good Luck!
  • bmenx2bmenx2 Bmenx2 Posts: 172
    Thanks - I'm sure after reading all of the positive reviews, etc. that they will work out well (range time!!!).



    I also forgot to mention that a new Z101 2 iron came with the set shafted with a PX 5.5.



    They were also bent 2* upright, which as I've been fitted twice over the last year seem to be the consensus fit for my swing (fitted with 775CB's).



    Between them already being 2* upright and the TT Black Gold in R flex - couldn't pass them up - it's like someone built them for me!
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #1[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki Z 50[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge EX9 Tour - 20*, Recoil 780 ES[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX EZ Forged - 4i - GW, Fujikura MCI 80 Stiff[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Fourteen RM21 Black - 54/10 - 58/8, Dynamic Gold[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bettinardi Signature Model 6 [/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Putter Rotation: Bettinardi Signature Model 6 / Model 7 / BB 360, Miura KM-006 / KM-350, TP Mills Nellie Wings / Fleetwood, Byron Morgan Dalehead 89 / 007 (Copper, sound slot) / Channel Island Plumber / Channel Island Rincon, Odyssey Prototype 2 Ball Black / Odyssey Black Series Tour Design 2 Ball Blade[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #2[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki ZT 60[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Hybrids - HB3 / HB4, Aerotech Steelfiber[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura MC102 - 4i - GW, Nippon NS Pro[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Black Wedges, 55/9 - 60/7, Nippon NS Pro WV[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura KM-006[/font]
  • Xt1ncTXt1ncT Englishman in NZ :) Posts: 334
    YoOu won't regret it - I have 2 sets with TT S300s in them and they are sooo sweet when pured. Pretty long as well.



    Am actually looking to move one set on as it sits at my in-laws and is used about 5 times a year if that. Probably only have 10-15 rounds in them. Must get the photographed on the BST!!
  • canegolfercanegolfer Members Posts: 60
    bmenx2 wrote on 31 January 2010 - 11:36 PM:


    Thanks everyone for your advice and info - all good stuff!



    I took the plunge - Z101 3i - pw with TT Black Gold Reg Flex shafts (lucky enough to find a set in 8+ condition!). I'll probably game the 4i - pw. Let the games begin!






    Hi-i guess it was you who bought my set on EBAY. Well I am a 1 hdcp. and really enjoyed the. (I have two other sets) I beleive anywhere from 1-9 hdcp can use them very nicely. I hope you love them as well.
  • bmenx2bmenx2 Bmenx2 Posts: 172
    Yes, it was me. Clubs look great and I'm going to try and get out ASAP to him them (26 degrees and windy today here in NNJ).



    I'm not quite to the single digits yet, but I'm sure these will help me get there!



    Thanks
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #1[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki Z 50[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge EX9 Tour - 20*, Recoil 780 ES[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Mizuno JPX EZ Forged - 4i - GW, Fujikura MCI 80 Stiff[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Fourteen RM21 Black - 54/10 - 58/8, Dynamic Gold[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Bettinardi Signature Model 6 [/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Putter Rotation: Bettinardi Signature Model 6 / Model 7 / BB 360, Miura KM-006 / KM-350, TP Mills Nellie Wings / Fleetwood, Byron Morgan Dalehead 89 / 007 (Copper, sound slot) / Channel Island Plumber / Channel Island Rincon, Odyssey Prototype 2 Ball Black / Odyssey Black Series Tour Design 2 Ball Blade[/font]

    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]WITB #2[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Callaway XR Driver - 11*, Fubuki ZT 60[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tour Edge CB Pro 4 Wood - Fujikura Rombax 6Z08[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Hybrids - HB3 / HB4, Aerotech Steelfiber[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura MC102 - 4i - GW, Nippon NS Pro[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura Black Wedges, 55/9 - 60/7, Nippon NS Pro WV[/font]
    [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Miura KM-006[/font]
  • jeromekjeromek Members Posts: 44 ✭✭
    How did they turn out for you?
    Driver Callaway Razr Hawk Driver 9.5 neutral, i-mix, Motore Speeder VC 7.1
    Rocketballs xcon 5 stiff
    Titleist 718 TMB 2 iron
    Bridgestone j36 combo, px 6.0 4-pw
    Vokey SM6 50f12
    Vokey SM5 54m10
    Mizuno R 58
    Ping Anser 2 TR 1966 33"
  • LionGolferLionGolfer Members Posts: 1,289 ✭✭
    8 years after the fact.. I'm sure they are gone. Great solid dense feeling irons though
    Drivers : Crazy435COAAngel5-GTD455Crazy9-ItoboriCrazy9Dia-ProceedIXCOABurningAngel
    UTs : Itobori-ModartMA01H-ProceedTi-PXG 317
    Irons : GrindStudioProto-ModartCBC-PXG311T-RoddioMeisterM
    Wedges : GrindStudio-Modart-Orion
    Putters : ArGolf-Benock-BPutters-Kitada-Machine-Masda-Nead-PXG-Slighter-Xenon
  • StonewalledStonewalled Members Posts: 1,503 ✭✭
    Bought a set Z101 heads last winter, too **** pretty to just be sitting there so i finally sent them in to be shafted. Only problem is i have numerous favourite shafts to choose from and can't make up my mind what to use. This thread hopefully will help me make up my mind, kinda want to hit these dang things. lol
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