Fitting Tall Golfers With NO Chart or Preconceived Ideas!

[Cwebb]

7 minutes ago, mynameisntshawn said:

That's interesting, I could definitely approach it from that angle. In the past I haven't minded heavier total weight clubs as long as the swing weight is right. I suppose it might be worth ordering a wedge head to test as well. Does this group have any suggestion of good low-weight wedge heads to try out? I currently play Vokeys.

 

The point is that the actual "swing weight" or how the club weight really swings, won't be nearly the same, if you arrive at that number by bringing it down with counter weight.  Do all your swing weight comparisons with only a standard weight 50-52 gram grip.  Use a cut grip for testing your club builds.  Any counter weighting with actual weights or through extra grip weight is a separate fitting variable.....generally not beneficial if trying to make a club swing lighter.

 

If you order from a company like the Golfworks, they can hand pick heads on the lighter side of the weight tolerance to make sure you get the lightest available.  That tolerance is usually +- 3 grams.  From there you can step drill and deep bore in the bottom of the hosel to remove a few more grams....along with porting the "flange" or back side of the sole.

[mynameisntshawn]

Having done some more research I understand what you're saying about not "tricking" the SW scale by just adding CB weighting to the butt. As a general rule, then, I should start with a normal grip, a stiffer shaft than I usually use (since we're going longer), as light a shaft as possible, then find ways to remove head weight until it all feels right. I don't even have a swingweight scale, I just know what feels right. I'm probably not willing to mess too much with drilling out my vokeys, but I would be willing to experiment with some Maltby heads.

[Cwebb]

1 hour ago, mynameisntshawn said:

Having done some more research I understand what you're saying about not "tricking" the SW scale by just adding CB weighting to the butt. As a general rule, then, I should start with a normal grip, a stiffer shaft than I usually use (since we're going longer), as light a shaft as possible, then find ways to remove head weight until it all feels right. I don't even have a swingweight scale, I just know what feels right. I'm probably not willing to mess too much with drilling out my vokeys, but I would be willing to experiment with some Maltby heads.

 

You don't have to use the lightest iron shaft possible, but something a bit lighter than you used at a shorter length will certainly help lower your "full club MOI" or how much force it takes to swing the longer club.

 

The wedge head weights are the key components for getting them as light as possible

[mynameisntshawn]

Seems like the Cobra One Length wedges might be a good option here, since they're made with longer shaft lengths in mind. Initial research has them about 30g lighter than Vokeys.

[umamimami]

I stumbled across this thread looking for advice on making wedge heads lighter. 
 

I’m 6’4” with a WTF just under 38 in. 
 

Heres video of me without shoes, showing postures with two old pitching wedges. Both heads are oversized. Length is 35.5” and 37.5”.
 

Notice how the first one doesn’t even touch the ground. I can manipulate the clubhead around and even on the same plane as the earth but at a huge postural cost / lots of manipulation.

 

Compare to my similar demonstration with the extended length wedge. I hope this helps show taller people what the length gets you. You get to acccess the ability to move the club on the same plane as the earth without the crazy compensations.
 

Especially in the shortest clubs. If you’re typical height, when you go up from a wedge to a mid iron you go from being in wedge posture to being in full shot posture. 
 

If you’re around my height or much taller, when you grip a long iron you go into full shot posture. When you grip anything shorter you skip past the other postures and cram down/stretch down into “finesse chip shot” posture. We simply can’t get the club to the earth without compromising something.

 

Our shoulders socket too damn far away from our toes. And the ball tends to be around toe height. . 

 

Some argue you have “less control” due to the fact that the club is longer. I think that’s because they’re thinking you’d get into full shot posture. Because that’s what they do when they grab a 37” club. They feel less on-top of the shot thus harder to control. They’re picturing shots from the 150 stick and cautioning us against losing control. I’m just trying to make contact on a short par-3.

 

For me the cost to my game of heavier clubs is so much less than the cost to my game of rarely holding a club long enough to make an actual golf swing with.  

 

[umamimami]

37.5in PW 

 

 

[Mr Fade]

This is one great thread for us tall golfers. I am 6´6" (with shoes) and WTF at 38.5. I decided to go really long, which means that my driver is 48 inches and my Lob wedge is around 40. 7 iron at 42, i.e. 5 over. Heavier and much stiffer shafts is a must just as much lighter heads. Initial results are great with a comfortable setup and balanced swing.

[ShortGolfer]

I bought a dirt cheap Ping 7 iron demo head.  Weighs 254g.  I'll make a sleeve with a machine lathe to go from a 0.370 shaft to about 0.425" OD out of brass. A 7/16 shaft is a little too big to fit.

I'll chamfer the sleeve to prevent creating a stress point with the shaft. The sleeve could be made out of aluminum which is lighter, as the epoxy will prevent electrolysis.  

 

Demo heads are really cheap on ebay right now so maybe this may be a useful for idea for finding the club length that works best.  I don't have a stock head but I'd guess the demo head is 10g lighter.

 

 

[Cwebb]

16 hours ago, ShortGolfer said:

I bought a dirt cheap Ping 7 iron demo head.  Weighs 254g.  I'll make a sleeve with a machine lathe to go from a 0.370 shaft to about 0.425" OD out of brass. A 7/16 shaft is a little too big to fit.

I'll chamfer the sleeve to prevent creating a stress point with the shaft. The sleeve could be made out of aluminum which is lighter, as the epoxy will prevent electrolysis.  

 

Demo heads are really cheap on ebay right now so maybe this may be a useful for idea for finding the club length that works best.  I don't have a stock head but I'd guess the demo head is 10g lighter.

 

 

 

The stock spec weight of a 7 iron is generally about 268g.  So at 254 you're a full "2 clubs" lighter based on a standard 7g increment per club

[Zep17]

On 12/10/2023 at 12:20 PM, Mr Fade said:

This is one great thread for us tall golfers. I am 6´6" (with shoes) and WTF at 38.5. I decided to go really long, which means that my driver is 48 inches and my Lob wedge is around 40. 7 iron at 42, i.e. 5 over. Heavier and much stiffer shafts is a must just as much lighter heads. Initial results are great with a comfortable setup and balanced swing.

How did you deal with swingweight and what shafts are you using? I'm 6'8 with WTF 43" and I'm struggling to find anyone who build clubs longer than +2". Any recommendation who builds such clubs? 

[Mr Fade]

1 hour ago, Zep17 said:

How did you deal with swingweight and what shafts are you using? I'm 6'8 with WTF 43" and I'm struggling to find anyone who build clubs longer than +2". Any recommendation who builds such clubs? 

Swingweights are on the higher side of standard but nothing crazy thanks to the light heads. The only one I know of that builds clubs like this is "Tall Man Golf". They use shafts from True Temper at 192 grams uncut. Heads are forged and very thin. No other way to take weight off. They are very nice heads.

[jrdubbb]

I am 6'3" with a wrist to floor of 36". I know I am not on the very tall side, but still had a question with swing weights. I recently had a set of Takomo 301 CB/MB heads built at a golf shop with TT TI X100's at + 1/2" with super stroke cord grips and my swing weights are between E1-E3 throughout the set. This even alternates between clubs (4i is E1, 5i E3, 6i E1). I know that the clubs feel heavier but thought that was just going from 120-gram X100 to 130-gram X100. Should I be concerned with having all of my swing weights in the E's? I have always liked the feel of a heavier, sledgehammer feeling club, but not sure if this is too much or just seeing them weigh out in the E's was a shock.  

[Cwebb]

3 hours ago, jrdubbb said:

I am 6'3" with a wrist to floor of 36". I know I am not on the very tall side, but still had a question with swing weights. I recently had a set of Takomo 301 CB/MB heads built at a golf shop with TT TI X100's at + 1/2" with super stroke cord grips and my swing weights are between E1-E3 throughout the set. This even alternates between clubs (4i is E1, 5i E3, 6i E1). I know that the clubs feel heavier but thought that was just going from 120-gram X100 to 130-gram X100. Should I be concerned with having all of my swing weights in the E's? I have always liked the feel of a heavier, sledgehammer feeling club, but not sure if this is too much or just seeing them weigh out in the E's was a shock.  

 

All depends on how they perform for you.  Test your impact pattern on the face, while monitoring ball flight