What’s with Crossfield and “strokes gained” subject lately?

[SNIPERBBB]

Some guys need to spend more time practicing other things. Some of the the guys that are YTD in the top 10 SG putting are almost DFL elsewhere.

[BB28403]

I have a strong 7 iron game, the rest of it needs help. Trouble is on the public side of life it is hard to find a good practice facility besides the range. Unless you show up before your round and put a couple of hours in. Which I guess I am going to have to do.

[Krt22]

I honestly have no idea who Dominic Bozzelli is, but he's #1 in SG putting. 196th SG tee to green, 102nd SG total, sits 113th in the fedex cup. Rory is #68 in SG putting, #1 SG tee to green, #1 SG total, sits 3rd in the fedex cup. Not sure what to think of all that

[SNIPERBBB]

> @Krt22 said:

> I honestly have no idea who Dominic Bozzelli is, but he's #1 in SG putting. 196th SG tee to green, 102nd SG total, sits 113th in the fedex cup. Rory is #68 in SG putting, #1 SG tee to green, #1 SG total, sits 3rd in the fedex cup. Not sure what to think of all that

 

His SG stats YTD...

 

-.286

SG: OFF-THE-TEE

190th

-.524

SG: APPROACH THE GREEN

156th

-.158

SG: AROUND THE GREEN

1st

1.078

SG: PUTTING

196th

-.969

SG: TEE-TO-GREEN

102nd

.110

[AFcelica]

> @Krt22 said:

> I honestly have no idea who Dominic Bozzelli is, but he's #1 in SG putting. 196th SG tee to green, 102nd SG total, sits 113th in the fedex cup. Rory is #68 in SG putting, #1 SG tee to green, #1 SG total, sits 3rd in the fedex cup. Not sure what to think of all that

 

If rory only worked on his putting he would win every tournament! /s

[smashdn]

> @smashdn said:

> > @oikos1 said:

> > SG/stats guys wanted more, so here you go:

> >

> > https://www.pgatour.com/news/2016/05/31/strokes-gained-historical-stats.html

> >

> > Below are the highlights, and pretty much reflects the lack of understanding and application of Broadies SG work and statistical knowledge/application in general:

> >

> >

> >

> > Strokes gained: putting

> > In the past 10 seasons, PGA TOUR winners outperform the field by an average of 1.32 strokes per round on the greens. This equates to 5.28 strokes better than the field over the course of a four-round event. Sixty-one percent of PGA TOUR winners rank inside the top 10 for strokes gained: putting during their victory.

> >

> > Strokes gained: approach-the-green

> > In the past 10 seasons, PGA TOUR winners have outperformed the field by an average of 1.28 strokes per round on approach shots. This works out to +5.12 strokes gained over the course of a four-round event. Fifty-six percent of PGA TOUR winners rank inside the top 10 for strokes gained: approach-the-green during the week of their victory.

> >

> > Strokes gained: off-the-tee

> > In the past 10 seasons, PGA TOUR winners have outperformed the field by an average of 0.64 strokes per round off the tee. This works out to 2.56 strokes over the course of a four-round event. Forty-two percent of PGA TOUR winners rank inside the top 10 of strokes gained: off-the-tee in the week of their victory.

> >

> > Strokes gained: around-the-green

> > In the past 10 seasons, PGA TOUR winners have outperformed the field by an average of 0.41 strokes per round around the greens. This equates to 1.64 strokes better than the field over the course of a four-round event. Twenty-eight percent of PGA TOUR winners rank inside the top 10 in strokes gained: around-the-green during the week of their victory.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ten Years! For Ten Years, strokes gained putting for PGA Tour winners had the highest strokes gained average.

> > I'll say it again: "40-50% of strokes in an 18 hole round are putts. Putting is pretty **** important."

> >

> > Waiting for the "winning isn't everything" response...

> >

>

> Broadie says on like the second page of his book that winners are the guys who get hot with the putter that week. But that getting hot is just that getting hot for a short period of time, catching lightning in a bottle. For two or three or four rounds when everything falls and a guy goes low. Statistically, they are all pretty similar. The week of hot putting pushes a guy who is not better in other facets of the game to the top.

>

> Using data, he shows that you really don't want to build a practice program around something that is not sustainable, ie putting out of your head and to a level that far surpasses the best golfers in the world. Instead go make up ground on your peers where it is easier and there is more ground to be made up, distance in general and long iron game.

>

> Putting is important to scoring, but not practical for practicing a ton for improving your game, unless you suck at putting. One of the other first points out of the gate with SG is that most amateurs don't suck as much as they thing they do at putting.

 

Bears repeating given the recent discussion.

 

 

[Golfjack]

Oh gosh. If the guy wants to practice putting, then let him be. Putting often is 90% skill and 10% luck. Unfortunately 90% doesn't get you in the hole. It just makes sense too since the best golfers of all time are all great ball strikers and approach the green off the charts masters. The putting percentages aren't all that different over a year. But when you are hitting it close, you really give yourself a chance to get lucky. Amateurs land it further away, and don't get to hit as many first putts that have a chance of going in anyway. As long as you reduce your 3 putts, there's not much more you can do. Hit it closer. Easier said than done.