Bryson and Single Length Irons

[freowho]

5 hours ago, Rich Douglas said:

 

This isn't true for a few reasons. First, it's tough to get someone to make such a radical change when their livelihoods are on the line. Radical equipment changes have sometimes threatened careeers.

 

Second, I'm not so sure a professional at the very top of his game (and the world of golfers overall) needs to make this kind of switch. 

 

Third, you can't do "all the clubs." There are physical limitations you cannot overcome. Take the driver. If you shorten to less than 42" or so, you simply won't get the performance you require vis-a-vis the 3-wood. I've posted at length the difficulties in doing this with the lob wedge as well. And the lower-lofted irons need some serious swing speed to maintain gapping. If you have your irons built around 36.5" shafts (traditional 8-iron length), you have to swing it around 85 mph to take advantage of that 4-iron. If not, the 5-iron (or even 6-iron, or 7-iron) might be your least-lofted iron.

 

Using an extreme example--especially one that those with experience know isn't reasonable--doesn't negate the entire concept.

Elite sports people by nature are risk takers and always trying to get better. Look how many ruin their games with swing changes trying to get better. Jordan Spieth and Lydia Ko. 

Your admitting that it only works for a few clubs. You're trying to prove me wrong but you're actually on my side!!!

As I pointed out I think the conventional method is also flawed. Many golfers probably need something in between. I'm always bemused that PING have a head with a changeable weight yet don't use it as part of the fitting process. Adjustable iron heads should be a normal part of clubfitting with lofts and weights being changed.

[Rich Douglas]

46 minutes ago, freowho said:

Elite sports people by nature are risk takers and always trying to get better. Look how many ruin their games with swing changes trying to get better. Jordan Spieth and Lydia Ko. 

Your admitting that it only works for a few clubs. You're trying to prove me wrong but you're actually on my side!!!

As I pointed out I think the conventional method is also flawed. Many golfers probably need something in between. I'm always bemused that PING have a head with a changeable weight yet don't use it as part of the fitting process. Adjustable iron heads should be a normal part of clubfitting with lofts and weights being changed.

 

I'm not "on your side." I have no idea what side you're on, and I don't care to prove you (or anyone else) right or wrong.

 

I think my statement about professional golfers being averse to huge changes stands on its own.

 

I didn't admit it works "only for a few clubs." I said it works through the set, but there are some exceptions--the lob wedge (for me) and some lower-lofted clubs (for slow swingers). This is no different that the fact that some shafts work for some golfers and not for others, that some iron designs work for some but not for others, etc.

[Rich Douglas]

4 hours ago, golfandfishing said:

Clubs of any length, swing weight, manufacturer or anything else would not change his ability one iota. In fact if you switched out his EQL’s for anything else I doubt he would even notice. 

So it's not the clubs. Normally, I'd say better clubs help worse players, but sometimes no matter how big the factor, multiplying it by zero still results in zero.