MacGregor Re-issues

[RobotDoctor]

9 hours ago, LeftyMac said:

RoboDoc,

 

That was the photo I was going to pull out, figured you might have it 😀

 

Great minds think alike!  😄

[tomc262]

On 2/26/2021 at 11:26 AM, RobotDoctor said:

 

 

 

 

 

I am very fortunate to be the owner of the M85W with neck number S4828E.  This one was owned by Fred Clark and restored by Dave Wood about 11 or 12 years ago.  I bought it off Fred about 10 years ago.  This is truly a remarkable driver, and I have the 2 and 3 woods (in original condition with neck numbers) waiting to be restored in the next year or two.  The driver will also go in and have a satin poly coat applied.

Here are a few pictures I snapped of it this morning.  I am also attaching the other M85W driver I have with it (side by side).  The lighter colored M85W was restored by Dave Wood last year and he restored it to Ben Crenshaw's specifications.  This one is an rare solid block meaning no lead,  It is a very heavy M85W weighing in at D6 and that is with adding a 1/2" plug with tungsten to extend it from 43" to 43.5".  It was originally E-0 at 43".

Perfection!  Love that shape...and back in the "E" SW days for sure!! 🙂

[Foozle]

On 2/25/2021 at 7:11 PM, Foozle said:

One area that causes me confusion is the subject of MacGregor re-issues. It seems to pop up in various threads and so I guess I am not alone?

I am generally okay on unmolested clubs with original shafts, grips and patina but alot of clubs of that age have been tinkered with over the years....

I thought I would start a new dedicated thread in the hope of creating a definitive point of reference to help clear the muddied waters.

It would be good, for example, to create a list of the known reissue models - both woods and irons. That way if you stumble across a model not on the list you can have some confidence in its originality?

For those on the list, it would then be good to list identifiers to help distinguish between originals and remakes? Perhaps also debunking some myths?

For example, I have read that reissues only have 4 screws in the sole plate and that model number stampings are on the sole plate and not the toe. This M85W is to my almost certain knowledge a remake which disprooves those theories! But how would I tell it apart from a reshafted, rewhipped and (badly) refinished original? Is it true that the inserts on originals are thinner?

Hopefully you see the point I am trying to make and all you Mac Guru's will be willing to share your considerable collective knowledge to help educate us enthusiastic amateurs!

 

@The Aspidistra in the Hallreferenced this thread in another post. It was gathering some helpful information as you will see if you read the back posts. It is a pity it pettered out so thought I would give it a bump in the hope of channelling the collective knowledge here into a reference point on the thorny issue of MacGregor Re-issues and their identifying features.

Look forward to all your contributions which I will try to collate and make accessible.

Good  project for the dark winter nights in Scotland!

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

3 hours ago, Foozle said:

@The Aspidistra in the Hallreferenced this thread in another post. It was gathering some helpful information as you will see if you read the back posts. It is a pity it pettered out so thought I would give it a bump in the hope of channelling the collective knowledge here into a reference point on the thorny issue of MacGregor Re-issues and their identifying features.

Look forward to all your contributions which I will try to collate and make accessible.

Good  project for the dark winter nights in Scotland!

Yes, I agree. In fact if I got into collecting, which I probably won't, it would be a good project to get all the remakes and play them.

I've accidentally acquired a 693 and a 945. I'll show the 945 when I've got the very yellowed poly off, you can't see anything at pres.