Golf ruling- need clarification

[Colin L]

6 hours ago, Augster said:

That is why it should be different. A putter is a conforming club. The player has the intent to strike the ball well off the green. He succeeds. Yet, it isn’t counted against him. 
 

What if he then goes and plays the ball? And who decides? What if it isn’t anger, he’s 2 feet above the hole and it misses and rolls down the hill,

off the green and into the fairway. Can he take “ball moves by player” and not count the stroke?

 

But a player, that is angry, and hits the 2 foot putt as hard as he can to try to “break the flagstick” and it misses and rolls off the green. Then he gets to take “ball moves by player” the stroke doesn’t count, and he’s lying 1 stroke better in the same spot as the player who wasn’t angry. 
 

It’s absurd. 

 

 I certainly wouldn't allow a player to discount a stroke made with the intention of holing the ball that missed and rolled off the green.  It would be an interesting one for the Masters, mind you.    I think you're getting a bit wild in your examples. 🙂  

 

You might like to consider the purpose of the game - to hit a ball as few times as possible from the tee till it's in the hole.  A ball knocked away from the hole in anger or despair was not hit  to meet that purpose.  It's not explicit, but I think it reasonable to  consider hitting your ball for any  different purpose than an attempt to get it holed in as few strokes as possible is not a stroke.  

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by Colin L

[antip]

1 hour ago, limegreengent said:

Antip

I do not follow why you are making a distinction between on or off the green.

(See highlighted section of your reply above)

Would not the " Sub ball ruling " ? be the same for each ?

Can you clarify ?

Thank you.

 

Yes, those bolded words do not belong and should be deleted or changed to "at rest on or off the green". I'll leave them there so others can also enjoy finding the error.