Long drive 204 mph ball speed

[songwriter]

Jason Zubach

What would the clubhead speed be for 204 mph ball speed?

[Yuck]

I get 171 out of 117 or so, therefore my guess would be low 140's for the 204 ball speed. (Assuming simular conditions and a overly simplified linear model - ratio of 1 to 1.45)

[Yepyukon]

Well, a perfect smash factor is 1.5 or higher. You get a smash factor when your ball speed is 1.5X your swing speed. So I would guess it is around 153-160 swing speed

[bfactor]

136 mph swing speed at a theoretically perfect 1.5 smash would achieve the 204 ball speed. Probably a bit more since I doubt that contact is centered every time!

[blackcourse53]

Wow, I thought it would be much higher. I've personally heard Bubba Watson tell Fred Funk that his ball speed is 198 on his drives. Now, that is not with a longe driver or while swinging as hard as he can. Think what he could do under these conditions.

[deepballer]

>>Well, a perfect smash factor is 1.5 or higher. You get a smash factor when your ball speed is 1.5X your swing speed. So I would guess it is around 153-160 swing speed<<

 

153 x 1.5 = 229.5

and

160 x 1.5 = 240

[northgolf]

Oh my, doing math in public :diablo:

[extremeld]

http://www.uklongdriveseries.com/forum/index.php?topic=7.0

 

clip on here of Current World Champ - btw he had a ballspeed of 218mph in the final of the world longdrive champs

 

 

 

 

THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE DISTANCES THAT THESE LONGDRIVERS HIT AND PGA TOUR - JAMIE WAS LANDING THE BALL AT 380 - 400 YARDS ITS A DIFFERENT LEAGUE!

[4ems]

dyslexic math

[GolfPro64]

PGA TOUR PLAYERS don't practice day in and day out to swing as hard as they can. They are more concerned with hitting the ball in the fairway and shooting in the mid 60's.

[VinceRKG]

And when you see in Hawaii PGA guys going 380 - 450, those are downhill or with wind... its funny thats all... I got a guy Mitch here in Scottsdale on staff with us that can pipe it 360 down the middle every hole, with no wind... I just wish he was able to shoot his 67's when it counts..he has missed so many open's buy 1-4 shots cause he would lose it ... tisk tisk...

[Brutus3]

Who cares about Zuback when Jack Hamm can hit balls over mountains???

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM BABY!!!

 

(You knew it was coming)

[jons1]

[quote name='VinceRKG' date='20 January 2010 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1264030323' post='2193878']
And when you see in Hawaii PGA guys going 380 - 450, those are downhill or with wind... its funny thats all... I got a guy Mitch here in Scottsdale on staff with us that can pipe it 360 down the middle every hole, with no wind... I just wish he was able to shoot his 67's when it counts..he has missed so many open's buy 1-4 shots cause he would lose it ... tisk tisk...
[/quote]

when i lived in scottsdale, i found it really easy to hit the ball long with all the run out on the fairways and sometimes elevation advantages, and of course the dry air. even a guy like me, whos clubhead speed is probably around 110 or a little more, could hit driver 320. hell, on eagle mountain i remember playing in a PAT test where i had at least 5-6 drives at 350+, including 390 on hole 1 and reaching the 18th green. Nothing for nothing, I think I lost about 20 yards when I got to florida. So I agree... course conditions, elevation, wind... all major factors. professional long drivers are insanely long, and make almost all the tour pros look like seniors.

[pinhigh27]

[quote name='blackcourse53' date='29 June 2009 - 01:05 AM' timestamp='1246251940' post='1786381']
Wow, I thought it would be much higher. I've personally heard Bubba Watson tell Fred Funk that his ball speed is 198 on his drives. Now, that is not with a longe driver or while swinging as hard as he can. Think what he could do under these conditions.
[/quote]

He was lying. Thats definitely not true.

[ScratchThis]

ive seen ryan winthers swing a 45" driver 159 with 1.47 smash before! this guy is the real deal

[Ceejay]

The theoretical max smash factor is around 1,494 something so that translates into roughly 136,5 SS with a perfect hit. So probably higher SS than that.


Ryan does not swing a club 159, well, perhaps on a crappy LM or something.

The benchmark for measuring speed should be the Trackman, where sadlowski has around 146-147 SS. The flightscope is decent aswell.

[shorrrno]

Would a loud PPPPOOOOOWWWWWW!!!! increase distance??

I mean you could even hit it hard enough to have a comet-like tail!

[bradski]

[quote name='pinhigh27' date='03 April 2010 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1270333968' post='2358840']
[quote name='blackcourse53' date='29 June 2009 - 01:05 AM' timestamp='1246251940' post='1786381']
Wow, I thought it would be much higher. I've personally heard Bubba Watson tell Fred Funk that his ball speed is 198 on his drives. Now, that is not with a longe driver or while swinging as hard as he can. Think what he could do under these conditions.
[/quote]

He was lying. Thats definitely not true.
[/quote]


agree, bubba is mid 180's at best. he doesn't have much more. Holmes can go a little harder even but he doesn't hit a draw like watson can.

[ropin4fun03]

it would be unbelievable

[ebibler]

I saw Zuback at a golf show. The dude is straight up DIESEL!! I thought I swung hard, I got nothing on him!!

[bbskupak]

CHS usually minimal 133.33 to achieve 200 mph

[Cicero]

PGA legal max is 48, which is roughly the Long Drivers Association max (they're measured differently, but it comes out about even).

Also, Zuback is pretty short. He's listed at 5'9", which would make the shaft look even longer. When I saw him at long drive comp a few years ago, I was really surprised that he was that short (at the time, he was listed at 5'10"; he definitely didn't look that tall).

[Guest]

I know someone that got clocked over 130 and there is no way he is hitting as far as Zuback. I'd say he is nearly 150 if not over 150.

[ultra45]

[quote name='rouski' timestamp='1282337483' post='2651807']
I know someone that got clocked over 130 and there is no way he is hitting as far as Zuback. I'd say he is nearly 150 if not over 150.
[/quote]


a guy i know very well swung 127-129 6x in a row (cheap radar) and he says "i can only fly it 310"... so the LD guys have to be significantly faster

[KiloYankee]

Last year I was 142mph on trackman, this year we shall see.
If Ryan Winthers swings that hard then he would be a lock for any competition. I'm throwing the BS flag. No way he swings that fast.

[GoTime]

[quote name='golfpros1' timestamp='1270286069' post='2358023']
sometimes elevation advantages, and of course the dry air[/quote]

Balls go further in humid air, shorter in dry air

[5footGimme]

[quote name='deepballer' timestamp='1246317984' post='1787776']
>>Well, a perfect smash factor is 1.5 or higher. You get a smash factor when your ball speed is 1.5X your swing speed. So I would guess it is around 153-160 swing speed<<

153 x 1.5 = 229.5
and
160 x 1.5 = 240
[/quote]



My math precisely!

If the longest guys on Tour swing it in the 120's, nobody on earth is swinging it 160mph.

[5footGimme]

[quote name='Cicero' timestamp='1276562751' post='2509342']
PGA legal max is 48, which is roughly the Long Drivers Association max (they're measured differently, but it comes out about even).

Also, Zuback is pretty short. He's listed at 5'9", which would make the shaft look even longer. When I saw him at long drive comp a few years ago, I was really surprised that he was that short (at the time, he was listed at 5'10"; he definitely didn't look that tall).
[/quote]

He's also built like a linebacker so that tends to make you look shorter.

[mesquite2]

A few LD guys can swing 150-153 mph, most are in the 140-148 range.