Rotary swing , what is it ?

[watto]

I've heard a bit about it but what is the "rotary swing "? And how does it differ to the conventional golf swing if at all ?

[1PlaneHitter]

[quote name='watto' post='2130710' date='Dec 17 2009, 02:39 PM']I've heard a bit about it but what is the "rotary swing "? And how does it differ to the conventional golf swing if at all ?[/quote]

[b][i]Replying to Rotary swing , what is it ?
[/i][/b]
A big scam. :-) Lol

[dlygrisse]

Actually in a [b]generic sense [/b]it is a swing that relies more on the rotation of the core/pivot to power the swing and one that does not rely on hand and arm movement like a Fred Couples, Phil Mickelson swing in which the hands and arms control the pivot. Best examples of a rotary swing are Hunter Mahan and Zach Johnson. A lot of people argue that Hogan was a rotary swinger as well, but I don't want to get into that debate

Modern:
Jim Flick =swinger
Slicefixer and Jim Hardy 1 plane=rotary
TGM-pivot controled hands vs. hands controled pivot

Old school:
Percy Boomer "turn in a barrell"=rotary
Ernest Jones -swing the clubhead(swinger non rotary)

As far as I know there is no "method" that is called rotary swing, but I could be wrong.

Jim Hardy tried to explain it with the one plane vs. two plane theory with the one plane being the rotary and the two plane being more of a swinging method.

You can get it done either way just depends on how you want to go about it.

A good source of information would be Mike Hebrons book "the inside controls the outside". George Knudsons book is great as well.

[tony_teetime]

It's nothing new really as far as I'm concern. It appears to me like similar theory from Harding one plane theory.

The sad thing is the rotary swing camp is bashing stack and tilt technique in order to get people to join their camp.

To me , that is pretty shady way promote yourself . There are many different techniques that works well for different people and if your technique is that good and have solid substance, then people will follow.

You can google Chuck Quinton to learn more.

[PreppySlapCut]

Can we stop ignoring that the way he argues against stack and tilt is IN NO WAY different from the way P&B argue against traditional swings?

[titleiststafferpga]

A "Rotary Swing" is also known as a "One Plane Swing." In both models, the body turns around the spine with the body weight staying neutral and the club not shifting planes. When I am giving a lesson to a student who naturally swings this way, I call this a "Rotational" Swing. This type of a swing or movement works well with someone who is strong and fast with their midsection and upper body. Not someone who lacks strength and athletic ability in those areas.

If a student loads their body weight to their rear foot and then shifts the club onto a different plane then I call that a "Vertical" Swing.........or as others call that a "Two-Plane" Swing.

Make sense?

[Vandal]

[quote name='PreppySlapCut' post='2130791' date='Dec 17 2009, 12:45 PM']Can we stop ignoring that the way he argues against stack and tilt is IN NO WAY different from the way P&B argue against traditional swings?[/quote]

The difference is that CQ is classless and attacks S&T and its creators by name. He doesn't understand the method and doesn't know what he is talking about. P&B don't attack traditional methods; they claim that their way is an easier way to help people play better golf. CQ is an opportunist, plain and simple.

[KevCarter]

[quote]As far as I know there is no "method" that is called rotary swing, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

[url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/"]http://www.rotaryswing.com/[/url]

[PreppySlapCut]

[quote name='Vandal' post='2132103' date='Dec 18 2009, 11:55 AM'][quote name='PreppySlapCut' post='2130791' date='Dec 17 2009, 12:45 PM']Can we stop ignoring that the way he argues against stack and tilt is IN NO WAY different from the way P&B argue against traditional swings?[/quote]

The difference is that CQ is classless and attacks S&T and its creators by name. He doesn't understand the method and doesn't know what he is talking about. P&B don't attack traditional methods; they claim that their way is an easier way to help people play better golf. CQ is an opportunist, plain and simple.
[/quote]
Have you actually seen the commercials for the S&T videos? Showing people with terrible reverse pivots and talking about "traditional golf instruction" ? How is that different? Don't get me wrong I'll take P&B all day over CQ but open your eyes...

[Vandal]

[quote name='PreppySlapCut' post='2132193' date='Dec 18 2009, 09:51 AM'][quote name='Vandal' post='2132103' date='Dec 18 2009, 11:55 AM'][quote name='PreppySlapCut' post='2130791' date='Dec 17 2009, 12:45 PM']Can we stop ignoring that the way he argues against stack and tilt is IN NO WAY different from the way P&B argue against traditional swings?[/quote]

The difference is that CQ is classless and attacks S&T and its creators by name. He doesn't understand the method and doesn't know what he is talking about. P&B don't attack traditional methods; they claim that their way is an easier way to help people play better golf. CQ is an opportunist, plain and simple.
[/quote]
Have you actually seen the commercials for the S&T videos? Showing people with terrible reverse pivots and talking about "traditional golf instruction" ? How is that different? Don't get me wrong I'll take P&B all day over CQ but open your eyes...
[/quote]

Wide open, brother. P&B never name any instructor or a method that can be tied to just one teacher. However, CQ does. Like school on a holiday ... no class.

[PreppySlapCut]

[quote name='Vandal' post='2132373' date='Dec 18 2009, 02:47 PM']Like school on a holiday ... no class.[/quote]
hahaha, actually laughed out loud there. I think its different because they're the guys associated with the pattern, so there's really no other way to address the pattern without them coming up. That said, he's obviously grossly misinformed, as shown earlier in the thread. If you're going to bash it at least know what you're talking about.

[dlygrisse]

[quote name='kevcarter ' post='2132166' date='Dec 18 2009, 01:40 PM'][quote]As far as I know there is no "method" that is called rotary swing, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

[url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/"]http://www.rotaryswing.com/[/url]
[/quote]
I stand corrected

[KevCarter]

[quote name='dlygrisse' post='2133557' date='Dec 19 2009, 08:58 AM'][quote name='kevcarter ' post='2132166' date='Dec 18 2009, 01:40 PM'][quote]As far as I know there is no "method" that is called rotary swing, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

[url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/"]http://www.rotaryswing.com/[/url]
[/quote]
I stand corrected
[/quote]

dlygrisse,

Didn't mean to correct you my friend, just an FYI.
If you ever want useless information, I'm your man!

Cheers,
Kevin

[Geohans]

So the rotary "method" is a repackaged Hogan/TGM single plane thing?

[TaylorMadeAP25]

[quote name='CQGuyInMD' date='14 April 2010 - 10:03 PM' timestamp='1271300626' post='2380509']
[quote name='Geohans' date='09 January 2010 - 09:01 PM' timestamp='1263088871' post='2171763']
So the rotary "method" is a repackaged Hogan/TGM single plane thing?
[/quote]


No, it's something new and patented by Chuck Quinton. Working with a board of biokinetic experts he determined the simplest, most powerful and easiest on the body swing methodology. No one else has done what Chuck has. Have a look at his Youtube page. there's plenty of supporting information. Also do make sure to check out the videos of Chuck's swing which he built from scratch and is second to none.


If you want to get better at golf and go easy on your body, getting on board with the Rotary Swing is a must do.
[/quote]

So is Tiger Woods the main swing model????

[MrParr1Noid]

Ultimately you'd have to ask Chuck. The best way I can express it is that Tiger is the main inspiration for the Rotary Swing of known players. BUT CQ is now where Tiger would like to be. It's like you have Tiger's swing, and then you have the biomechanic experts, and then you modify his swing based on what the experts say, and you end up with Chuck's swing. Please do have a look at Chucks's swing, it's outstanding.

 

What are you and Chuck selling?