My New Project To Swing Like Ben Hogan

tembolo1284 · April 17, 2015

how's the swing project going sir?

hoganswing · April 28, 2015

It's going very well thanks. I outline what I'm up to in this post: [url="http://hoganswing.com/4th-ben-hogan-update/"]http://hoganswing.com/4th-ben-hogan-update/[/url] Basically I'm just working on improving my swing plane. My setup is pretty close to Hogan's. As close as it can be considering my body shape etc. Unfortunately I have injured my back doing some manual labor work so golf is not easy at the moment but I'm hitting the ball as consistently as I have in a long time. It's very encouraging and was well worth the effort to do this project. I'm just looking forward to the time when my back is healthy and I can start to crank up my swing speed.

tembolo1284 · April 29, 2015

what's the ball flight looking like?

hoganswing · April 29, 2015

The ball flight now is a draw. By the way, I might have discovered something unusual that Ben Hogan does with his right arm. I don't want to call it a secret but it's definitely an interesting discovery. Has there been discussions on what he does with his right arm, specifically his right elbow?

tembolo1284 · April 30, 2015

gotta be somewhere around here.

I say just start a new topic if you don't find anything obvious in the search.

redraider1685 · September 10, 2015

a couple of things you missed from hogan's approach into the golf ball

he stands erect with his right eye down the target line with his shoulders open to target and his right foot closer to the ball (versus where it ends up at address)00

he then lifts the left heel adds in knee flex and steps half way with his left foot and moves the right back into position

this then leads into the waggle

I have found approaching the ball from the side has improved my ability to line up accurately

Hogan still stood behind the ball when he was judging certain shots to see trajectory, lines, etc but he always walked into the ball from the side. It takes some time to get used to especially if you did the modern way of approaching from behind, however once it becomes a subconscious habit it takes no time at all

redraider1685 · September 10, 2015

and the youtube hogan follower guys MSE or whatever drives me nuts, he has improved his pattern some but he is not close to several of the principles hogan teaches

his set up and into his "first move" are not close, hogan's first move was to get the club moving on plane with the shoulders and he would then at hip high or so start his pivot with his lower body. This is how he got the big shoulder turn and the hips led the downswing, the MSE guy completely blows this principal therefore he will never create the speed that hogan had

MizunoJoe · September 10, 2015

MSE has a good looking swing, but his I don't see his hip action anywhere near Hogan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawd9PFCKjs

KYMAR · September 10, 2015

I hope this is going better than my attempt to talk like Paul Hogan.

Thats not a knife, THATS a knife!

See?

redraider1685 · September 10, 2015

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1441907319' post='12294370']
MSE has a good looking swing, but his I don't see his hip action anywhere near Hogan:

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawd9PFCKjs"]https://www.youtube....h?v=hawd9PFCKjs[/url]
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hips start too early and therefore stall too quick in BS, and he doesn't get his left hip forward and out enough to start the DS. Much more modern principal looking swing versus a hogan type acton

ajc57 · November 12, 2015

[quote name='hoganswing' timestamp='1430272856' post='11462601']
It's going very well thanks. I outline what I'm up to in this post: [url="http://hoganswing.com/4th-ben-hogan-update/"]http://hoganswing.com/4th-ben-hogan-update/[/url] Basically I'm just working on improving my swing plane. My setup is pretty close to Hogan's. As close as it can be considering my body shape etc. Unfortunately I have injured my back doing some manual labor work so golf is not easy at the moment but I'm hitting the ball as consistently as I have in a long time. It's very encouraging and was well worth the effort to do this project. I'm just looking forward to the time when my back is healthy and I can start to crank up my swing speed.
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I suspect that injury originated in the mechanics of that swing my good man. Please ignore your swing plane and focus on the feel of the swing as a whole. If you do this you'll begin to FEEL what's wrong with your action and that is when the real fun begins.

hoganswing · November 12, 2015

I have had back problems starting from a 12 year old and wasn't even playing golf then. So don't think any swing changes I was making had anything to do with it.

MizunoJoe · November 17, 2015

Working on shaft plane has to come after getting the hips right. At the top, both his back pockets can be seen from the target, and after a big lateral slide, his belt buckle is almost facing the target at impact. That's a huge range of motion for a bad back.

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK5QUmSBSng"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dK5QUmSBSng[/url]

hoganswing · November 17, 2015

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Working on shaft plane has to come after getting the hips right. At the top, both his back pockets can be seen from the target, and after a big lateral slide, his belt buckle is almost facing the target at impact. That's a huge range of motion for a bad back.

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK5QUmSBSng"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dK5QUmSBSng[/url]
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I don't agree. Working on the plane has helped my ball striking out a lot. Last 10 games I'm averaging 12.5 greens in regulation which is not too bad for a once a week golfer. About 8 out of 10 people suffer from a bad back at some point in their lives. A golf swing, no matter how you do it, is one hard movement on the body.

MizunoJoe · November 17, 2015

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[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1447782439' post='12610756']
Working on shaft plane has to come after getting the hips right. At the top, both his back pockets can be seen from the target, and after a big lateral slide, his belt buckle is almost facing the target at impact. That's a huge range of motion for a bad back.

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK5QUmSBSng"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dK5QUmSBSng[/url]
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I don't agree. Working on the plane has helped my ball striking out a lot. Last 10 games I'm averaging 12.5 greens in regulation which is not too bad for a once a week golfer. About 8 out of 10 people suffer from a bad back at some point in their lives. A golf swing, no matter how you do it, is one hard movement on the body.
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I meant in duplicating Hogan's swing, which you're not close to because of the hip action. If your plane work helped you with your current swing, that's good, but if you manage to copy his hip action, you'll have to rework the plane because you'll be in different positions throughout.