Project X 7.0

[DrizZzY22]

Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback

[Emthree]

The high number puts a lot of people off, but i switched from X100s just over a year ago and they're not as scary as people make out. They feel a lot smoother and connected to the clubhead than the X1's and the flight suits the modern ball more too, it launches up rather than spins up.

You've certainly got the speed for them so If you're someone who makes an aggressive hit at the ball rather than a long smoother action they will suit you.

You mentioned you liked the weight, if a shaft feels good, chances are you'll hit it well regardless of its flex. The only real way to get a good idea is to shaft one of them with a 7.0 and try it.

[jeffrey08250]

I would try it in your 6 iron before committing to a whole set. I had been playing X100's at the time and thought I would give a soft stepped 7.0 a try for the weight, but I ended up going with 6.5's anyway. The weight difference isn't that much, but the 6.5's are easier for me on those 60-80% swings. The 7.0 was the firmest shaft I had ever tried, and I thought C-Taper's were firm.

[Howard_Jones]

[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1429884620' post='11432435']
Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback
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You belong in a group of player who CANT fix it with a shaft (hardy nobody can, but thats another debate)
At 104 mph you generate 270 Rpm pr. degree loft, so stronger lofts is the way to go, WHEN you found a shaft that suits your preference for weight ,feel and dispersion. Many forget that loft at impact is what makes the difference, and look for a shaft to fix a loft issue, but the ball have no idea of where loft came from, if it was a shaft bending forward adding loft, or if it was static loft who was responsible. Loft is loft, no matter if it was provided by the shaft or the club head, so DONT leave it all to the shaft, that might put you into a shaft you really dont like, so go by weight, feel and dispersion, and leave ball flight to static loft when you found the shaft you wants to play

Options from TT for you "aliens" above 100 with a #6 iron ;-)
- PX 7.0 (130 grams)
- DG Tour X7 (132 gram)
- Monaco Tour Prototype TX flex (135 grams)

[Nittany]

Howard,

For us high launch, high spin players - would you suggest strengthen the lofts and by how much? Also, would that change the bounce of the club dramatically where you sacrifice so turf action? I currently play J40 DPC and looking to get MP15s so they have more traditional lofts.

[jeffrey08250]

[quote name='Nittany' timestamp='1429984764' post='11440327']
Howard,

For us high launch, high spin players - would you suggest strengthen the lofts and by how much? Also, would that change the bounce of the club dramatically where you sacrifice so turf action? I currently play J40 DPC and looking to get MP15s so they have more traditional lofts.
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You have to expect high launch with J40 DPC's as they are a high launch head.

[Howard_Jones]

[quote name='Nittany' timestamp='1429984764' post='11440327']
Howard,

For us high launch, high spin players - would you suggest strengthen the lofts and by how much? Also, would that change the bounce of the club dramatically where you sacrifice so turf action? I currently play J40 DPC and looking to get MP15s so they have more traditional lofts.
[/quote]

Most clubs can be tweaked 2 down on loft, making sole bounce 2 lower, so we should take look on angle of attack and leading edge if we need to go that way to get launch and spin down. A deep curved ratio heel to toe on the leading edge and a steep angle of attack is NOT a good combo.

[Nittany]

I played with MP53, MP64 and now J40 DPC and to be honest, I haven't see a huge difference in ball flight even though I know the MP53 and DPCs promote the ball to get up easier.


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[quote name='Nittany' timestamp='1429984764' post='11440327']
Howard,

For us high launch, high spin players - would you suggest strengthen the lofts and by how much? Also, would that change the bounce of the club dramatically where you sacrifice so turf action? I currently play J40 DPC and looking to get MP15s so they have more traditional lofts.
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You have to expect high launch with J40 DPC's as they are a high launch head.
[/quote]

[neilc]

[quote name='Howard Jones' timestamp='1429972449' post='11439273']
[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1429884620' post='11432435']
Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback
[/quote]

You belong in a group of player who CANT fix it with a shaft (hardy nobody can, but thats another debate)
At 104 mph you generate 270 Rpm pr. degree loft, so stronger lofts is the way to go, WHEN you found a shaft that suits your preference for weight ,feel and dispersion. Many forget that loft at impact is what makes the difference, and look for a shaft to fix a loft issue, but the ball have no idea of where loft came from, if it was a shaft bending forward adding loft, or if it was static loft who was responsible. Loft is loft, no matter if it was provided by the shaft or the club head, so DONT leave it all to the shaft, that might put you into a shaft you really dont like, so go by weight, feel and dispersion, and leave ball flight to static loft when you found the shaft you wants to play

Options from TT for you "aliens" above 100 with a #6 iron ;-)
- PX 7.0 (130 grams)
- DG Tour X7 (132 gram)
- Monaco Tour Prototype TX flex (135 grams)
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Howard

have you dealt with Morten Madsen the Danish tour player.his clubhead speed and tempo are so fst he would need XX shafts?

[Pomps]

Did you try the Mizuno DNA? It's a good start to finding a good fit and it would tell you if they need to be soft stepped or not. Of course, feel has a lot to do with it once you hit them.

[DrizZzY22]

[quote name='Pomps' timestamp='1430085657' post='11446587']
Did you try the Mizuno DNA? It's a good start to finding a good fit and it would tell you if they need to be soft stepped or not. Of course, feel has a lot to do with it once you hit them.
[/quote]

I did get on the dna from mizuno but it will only tell what shaft you need in the shafts that they have. Its been a while but i think it told me PX 6.5 hard stepped and X100's hardstepped

[DrizZzY22]

[quote name='Howard Jones' timestamp='1429972449' post='11439273']
[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1429884620' post='11432435']
Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback
[/quote]

You belong in a group of player who CANT fix it with a shaft (hardy nobody can, but thats another debate)
At 104 mph you generate 270 Rpm pr. degree loft, so stronger lofts is the way to go, WHEN you found a shaft that suits your preference for weight ,feel and dispersion. Many forget that loft at impact is what makes the difference, and look for a shaft to fix a loft issue, but the ball have no idea of where loft came from, if it was a shaft bending forward adding loft, or if it was static loft who was responsible. Loft is loft, no matter if it was provided by the shaft or the club head, so DONT leave it all to the shaft, that might put you into a shaft you really dont like, so go by weight, feel and dispersion, and leave ball flight to static loft when you found the shaft you wants to play

Options from TT for you "aliens" above 100 with a #6 iron ;-)
- PX 7.0 (130 grams)
- DG Tour X7 (132 gram)
- Monaco Tour Prototype TX flex (135 grams)
[/quote]
My fitter did mention strengthening the lofts but with the divots i take, they look like a green strip steak, i dont really want to lose any bounce. But ill look into those manaco's, never heard of them before

[Howard_Jones]

[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1430133218' post='11449497']
[quote name='Howard Jones' timestamp='1429972449' post='11439273']
[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1429884620' post='11432435']
Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback
[/quote]

You belong in a group of player who CANT fix it with a shaft (hardy nobody can, but thats another debate)
At 104 mph you generate 270 Rpm pr. degree loft, so stronger lofts is the way to go, WHEN you found a shaft that suits your preference for weight ,feel and dispersion. Many forget that loft at impact is what makes the difference, and look for a shaft to fix a loft issue, but the ball have no idea of where loft came from, if it was a shaft bending forward adding loft, or if it was static loft who was responsible. Loft is loft, no matter if it was provided by the shaft or the club head, so DONT leave it all to the shaft, that might put you into a shaft you really dont like, so go by weight, feel and dispersion, and leave ball flight to static loft when you found the shaft you wants to play

Options from TT for you "aliens" above 100 with a #6 iron ;-)
- PX 7.0 (130 grams)
- DG Tour X7 (132 gram)
- Monaco Tour Prototype TX flex (135 grams)
[/quote]
My fitter did mention strengthening the lofts but with the divots i take, they look like a green strip steak, i dont really want to lose any bounce. But ill look into those manaco's, never heard of them before
[/quote]

Monaco was like the name say, a Prototype and only made in 1000 sets total of 3 flexes (333 of each flex as, S-X-TX)
The winner of "The open" 2011 played them, and the later "production model" is DG Pro, but there is no TX flex in DG Pro.
There is still a few sets out there. Finish is satin copper

Turf and swing style vs stronger loft might be a issue, but the leading edge is what you should take a look on if you are steep, so when you plan to change your iron heads, DONT choose a model with a deep curved leading edge heel to toe, but find a model where the leading edge is as strait as possible. A Blunted leading edge would be good for you too, so heads like Scratch DD grind is absolutely the way to go. They both have a high static bounce, and a flat blunted leading edge to prevent digging and to protect your wrists and elbows if you are the digger style player .

[JasonFL]

[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1429884620' post='11432435']
Im looking to put some 7.0's in my ap2's but haven't been able to hit them. 6 iron swing speed is around 104. Spin is about 7000 with the 6 irons so thats why i am looking at the PX 7.0. I know they play around 7.5 so i was just wondering if they would be a good shaft for me. obviously you haven't seen my swing or numbers on a LM but i was just looking for feedback. I it was suggested to me that i soft step them as well. But before you say just get the PX 6.5' i like the weight of 130 grams. Thanks for reading and i hope i can get some good feedback
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I have PX 6.5 Flighted in all of my irons aside from my 5 iron which is a 7.0.

I know the make up of a flighted set varies but the mid irons play true to flex (from What I've read).

My 5 iron is bar none the most consistent club in my bag. I use it more for my tee shots than any club in my bag. Flex wise you can't tell the difference between the 6.5 and 7.0.

Not sure if the advice has been given but just have one club reshafted and try it out. Haven't made the switch yet because it's not THAT much of a difference. But I don't swing nearly as fast as you so it may be a game changer for you.

[DrizZzY22]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Im going to throw a 7.0 in a older mizuno i have and take it to the range to test it out. One last question though. No one really talked about soft stepping it. What would it do to the overall feel and performance to the shaft? Thanks again for the feedback

[Howard_Jones]

[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1430318263' post='11465263']
Thanks for all the replies guys. Im going to throw a 7.0 in a older mizuno i have and take it to the range to test it out. One last question though. No one really talked about soft stepping it. What would it do to the overall feel and performance to the shaft? Thanks again for the feedback
[/quote]

7.0 SS1 comes closer to PX 6.5 in both flex, flight and weight, but not all the way down there at SS1
It will be 128.3 grams as SS1 and 3-4 CPM softer = about 1 yard higher apex than strait in for a late release player

[Nine Miler]

[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1430133049' post='11449491']
[quote name='Pomps' timestamp='1430085657' post='11446587']
Did you try the Mizuno DNA? It's a good start to finding a good fit and it would tell you if they need to be soft stepped or not. Of course, feel has a lot to do with it once you hit them.
[/quote]

I did get on the dna from mizuno but it will only tell what shaft you need in the shafts that they have. Its been a while but i think it told me PX 6.5 hard stepped and X100's hardstepped
[/quote]

I can send you a 2007 x-forged 6 iron with a 7.0 in it- I have the whole set, for the cost to ship. Just send it back when you're done, if you like.

[DrizZzY22]

Thanks guys. Been busy with work so i havent been able to look at the forums. But i did order 7.0 shaft to throw in a six iron. when it comes and i get it in a demo head i picked ill let you how it feels and maybe do a mini review.

[DrizZzY22]

[quote name='Nine Miler' timestamp='1430322724' post='11465857']
[quote name='DrizZzY' timestamp='1430133049' post='11449491']
[quote name='Pomps' timestamp='1430085657' post='11446587']
Did you try the Mizuno DNA? It's a good start to finding a good fit and it would tell you if they need to be soft stepped or not. Of course, feel has a lot to do with it once you hit them.
[/quote]

I did get on the dna from mizuno but it will only tell what shaft you need in the shafts that they have. Its been a while but i think it told me PX 6.5 hard stepped and X100's hardstepped
[/quote]

I can send you a 2007 x-forged 6 iron with a 7.0 in it- I have the whole set, for the cost to ship. Just send it back when you're done, if you like.
[/quote]

Thanks for the offer but my pro got me a discount on the shaft so im paying a pretty reasonable price for the shaft.