Maltby TS2

[irishmike27]

14 minutes ago, Popeye64 said:

The Moment X is pretty big. The Moment Tour heads are more compact. Those are more Spider like. Just chose the color you prefer. I liked the orange XI myself. 

I have the Orange XI with the short slant neck hosel and the Maltby pure track aluminum/steel shaft. Love everything about it. Smooth, great distance control and confidence inspiring on short putts. Highly recommend, especially if you like a (really) heavy putter-which I do.

 

[NRJyzr]

My TS4 clubheads have arrived.  Decided to check a couple of the clubheads for tapered shaft fit, they seem to seat pretty well at the bottom of the bore.

 

Also dry fit one of my prepped-for-install-in-STi2-clubhead Rapid Taper shafts, and it seems the TS4 have a slightly shorter bore depth than the STi2.  Or so it was for the TS4 PW and GW clubheads.  

 

Playing golf in a couple hours, I'll have to build these later.  Maybe even get them ready to use for my Sunday round.  If weather permits; we're having unseemly amounts of rain here...

 

[Minarets]

6 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

My TS4 clubheads have arrived.  Decided to check a couple of the clubheads for tapered shaft fit, they seem to seat pretty well at the bottom of the bore.

 

Also dry fit one of my prepped-for-install-in-STi2-clubhead Rapid Taper shafts, and it seems the TS4 have a slightly shorter bore depth than the STi2.  Or so it was for the TS4 PW and GW clubheads.  

 

Playing golf in a couple hours, I'll have to build these later.  Maybe even get them ready to use for my Sunday round.  If weather permits; we're having unseemly amounts of rain here...

 

Can’t wait for your thoughts. I’ve been in Vegas for 10 days so no rain and sadly no golf but headed home to Nashville where it looks like a lot of rain.  I’m clearing some funds soon and really want some Axioms and TS1 IM or TS4.  I may have to buy a 7i of each.   I fear the TS4 won’t be as forgiving as I’d like.  I love my P790 now.  

[groovingrover]

3 hours ago, Minarets said:

Can’t wait for your thoughts. I’ve been in Vegas for 10 days so no rain and sadly no golf but headed home to Nashville where it looks like a lot of rain.  I’m clearing some funds soon and really want some Axioms and TS1 IM or TS4.  I may have to buy a 7i of each.   I fear the TS4 won’t be as forgiving as I’d like.  I love my P790 now.  

 

I have had no such experience. The TS4s have been every bit as good and forgiving as their TS3 counterparts, at least with my swing. Can't condone enough. 

[golfschnell]

While I give the nod to feel to the T’s-4, forgiveness definitely to the T’s-1M, and for me and my swing, not even close. I originally was going to do a mixed set of 3s and 4s, but loved the 1Ms so much did a full set of them. After 6 months, built a second set of them for my winter home bag. Really great set of irons for me for consistency, forgiveness, looks, feel and spin retention. Blew the apex pro w apex standard 4 and 5 iron out of my bag. Better looks than the Apex pro and even more forgiving than the standard Apex, hell of a combo.

[Minarets]

Those last 2 posts just further my confusion. lol.  
 

I just love the look of those TS4 but know the forgiveness of the TS1 IM will actually be better.  Just with the nature of their type iron.  Hollow bodies gotta be more forgiving than solid forged blades.  And as much as I want looks the IMs don’t look like chunky irons or at least haven’t read that. Haven’t seen them in person yet. 
 

I play 2021 P790 with MMT 105 S now and love their forgiveness.   It’s why I’m leaning IMs 

[golfschnell]

The 1M in my experience is more forgiving than the your version 21 P790 which my buddy played for a couple years. It is MUCH better for me with consistent and retained spin numbers which made it the best iron in this category for me. The 1M also has a more compact form factor with its shaping than the P790. It is NOT a chunky monkey. Marginally thicker top line w more rounded shaping than the TS-4 and a bit more junk in the trunk below but still compact. Couple comparison shots of TS-4 and 1M 8 irons, not dramatically different at all, 1M on right.

[Popeye64]

17 hours ago, Minarets said:

Those last 2 posts just further my confusion. lol.  
 

I just love the look of those TS4 but know the forgiveness of the TS1 IM will actually be better.  Just with the nature of their type iron.  Hollow bodies gotta be more forgiving than solid forged blades.  And as much as I want looks the IMs don’t look like chunky irons or at least haven’t read that. Haven’t seen them in person yet. 
 

I play 2021 P790 with MMT 105 S now and love their forgiveness.   It’s why I’m leaning IMs 

The TS4 is a design that needs a consistent swing. It's not going to cover up garbage. If you strike the ball fairly well and make a strong move through the ball the TS4 will reward your efforts. It's very consistent in distance control and dispersion. Not to fool anyone but it's a true blade design, hiding in a Game Improvement design. It still acts like a blade when hit pure, or hit poorly. 

The TS1-IM will certainly do a much better job of covering up a poor strike. It's simply more forgiving. Strikes across the face fair way better than the TS4. The TS4 will give you feedback in a slightly  harsh way when you miss the sweet spot. The TS1-IM will give you a better feel when you miss, but it will still let you know. 

If you are on the fence go with the TS1-IM  and don't look back for a second. 

 

 

[Justin962]

I didn't realize at the time of ordering the TS3 Pak that the TT Score shafts can be cut to both regular and stiff flex. If I asked for a stiff flex, but also am having them lengthened by 1", would that naturally shift the flex from "stiff" to "regular" due to the added length? Or will they likely cut them to be extra stiff & then have the added length soften the flex?

 

I swing my 7 iron at 80mph, so I'm not exactly certain if I belong in a true stiff or regular flex. If I have the option for either, what would you recommend?

 

Thanks!

[wjmfour1]

With 300+ pages in this thread now Golfworks has to be paying Popeye64 royalties. Or at least name a club after him or something!

[Colej]

19 minutes ago, wjmfour1 said:

With 300+ pages in this thread now Golfworks has to be paying Popeye64 royalties. Or at least name a club after him or something!

Not even a chance 

[NRJyzr]

On 7/5/2024 at 10:20 AM, NRJyzr said:

My TS4 clubheads have arrived.  Decided to check a couple of the clubheads for tapered shaft fit, they seem to seat pretty well at the bottom of the bore.

 

Also dry fit one of my prepped-for-install-in-STi2-clubhead Rapid Taper shafts, and it seems the TS4 have a slightly shorter bore depth than the STi2.  Or so it was for the TS4 PW and GW clubheads.  

 

Playing golf in a couple hours, I'll have to build these later.  Maybe even get them ready to use for my Sunday round.  If weather permits; we're having unseemly amounts of rain here...

 

 

Turned out the "shorter bore depth" was just something with one shaft and one hosel; that one shaft didn't quite seat, but when I put it in the appropriate clubhead, it was fine, to the full expected depth.

 

Sadly, not going to be able to get these ready for tomorrow's golf.  😞

Will have to wait for next weekend's entertainment

 

 

[Popeye64]

4 hours ago, Justin962 said:

I didn't realize at the time of ordering the TS3 Pak that the TT Score shafts can be cut to both regular and stiff flex. If I asked for a stiff flex, but also am having them lengthened by 1", would that naturally shift the flex from "stiff" to "regular" due to the added length? Or will they likely cut them to be extra stiff & then have the added length soften the flex?

 

I swing my 7 iron at 80mph, so I'm not exactly certain if I belong in a true stiff or regular flex. If I have the option for either, what would you recommend?

 

Thanks!

The TTScore can't be trimmed to XStiff. Cutting that much off screws with the overall dynamics of the shaft. 

So by building them to S flex and adding an inch will not drop them all the way down to R flex. With your swing speed building the TT Score to S and the added length should be a great combo. The TT Score isn't an overly stiff shaft to begin with but holds up to a healthy swing. 

[Popeye64]

4 hours ago, wjmfour1 said:

With 300+ pages in this thread now Golfworks has to be paying Popeye64 royalties. Or at least name a club after him or something!

I keep waiting for those checks to start rolling in. 

Being a club junky and love of building clubs, the Maltby  brand was easy to latch onto so many years back. Now they are so incredibly good they sell themselves. So many amazing options. 

The set to carry my name would be.... DBM finished Forged irons. The set would start as blade style in the GW. Each head would truly morph as they went up to the 4 iron. Gradually becoming cavity backs. The 4 iron would be very easy to play with a very high playability number. 

Short irons would have relieved leading edges. With a slight v sole. 4 degree gaps. Stamped with a Popeye logo. 

[Coatesy76]

Hi all new user here... I have literally read this entire thread and it has encouraged me to go ahead and buy the ts3 irons built with dart v 105 f4's. I'm in Vegas and play as much as I can, but feel the ts3 are going to provide that little extra forgiveness when my game is not on point. Love the comradery and helpfulness of all in this thread. Excited to give these a shot!

[Minarets]

49 minutes ago, Coatesy76 said:

Hi all new user here... I have literally read this entire thread and it has encouraged me to go ahead and buy the ts3 irons built with dart v 105 f4's. I'm in Vegas and play as much as I can, but feel the ts3 are going to provide that little extra forgiveness when my game is not on point. Love the comradery and helpfulness of all in this thread. Excited to give these a shot!

Good luck with the heat out there right now.  Just left Vegas yesterday after being there for 10 days for my kids competition.   Jesus it was hot.  

[Coatesy76]

18 minutes ago, Minarets said:

Good luck with the heat out there right now.  Just left Vegas yesterday after being there for 10 days for my kids competition.   Jesus it was hot.  

Just a mere 117... but as they say, "it's a dry heat" 😂

[mstuewe]

2 hours ago, Coatesy76 said:

Hi all new user here... I have literally read this entire thread and it has encouraged me to go ahead and buy the ts3 irons built with dart v 105 f4's. I'm in Vegas and play as much as I can, but feel the ts3 are going to provide that little extra forgiveness when my game is not on point. Love the comradery and helpfulness of all in this thread. Excited to give these a shot!

Maltby should give you a discount as a reward for reading every post in this thread. 

[donkeynice]

While waiting for my TE+ V4 order to be fulfilled (ordered on 6/22), I got impatient and ordered a used set of KE4 Maxes off eBay. Took them to the range a few nights ago and hit the course last night for 9 holes. I'm not kidding when I say I didn't have a single bad iron shot the entire round. My miss tends to be thinning/topping the ball, and while I still thinned a few shots, they were straight and with distance—very forgiving. Shot my best-ever 41.
 

So now my question is, should I cancel my TE+ V4 order? I was looking for a set that I could grow into and continue to develop my game. Can someone explain the playability differences between the TE+ V4 and the KE4 Maxes? I understand the Max are more forgiving, but I'm curious about what (if anything) I would gain with the TE+? Although I have to say I think I would prefer the look of the V4s, that pearl finish looks incredible.

 

 

 

[Klubster]

20 hours ago, Justin962 said:

I didn't realize at the time of ordering the TS3 Pak that the TT Score shafts can be cut to both regular and stiff flex. If I asked for a stiff flex, but also am having them lengthened by 1", would that naturally shift the flex from "stiff" to "regular" due to the added length? Or will they likely cut them to be extra stiff & then have the added length soften the flex?

 

I swing my 7 iron at 80mph, so I'm not exactly certain if I belong in a true stiff or regular flex. If I have the option for either, what would you recommend?

 

Thanks!

Keep in mind, that when you cut for flex, you cut from the tip.  For length, you cut from the butt.  Cutting for length from the butt has very little effect on flex.

[wjmfour1]

I built a set of KE4 Max irons and they are seriously the easiest club to hit I have ever had. Not the prettiest but the scorecard doesn't care. They flat out perform.

[Klubster]

17 minutes ago, donkeynice said:

While waiting for my TE+ V4 order to be fulfilled (ordered on 6/22), I got impatient and ordered a used set of KE4 Maxes off eBay. Took them to the range a few nights ago and hit the course last night for 9 holes. I'm not kidding when I say I didn't have a single bad iron shot the entire round. My miss tends to be thinning/topping the ball, and while I still thinned a few shots, they were straight and with distance—very forgiving. Shot my best-ever 41.
 

So now my question is, should I cancel my TE+ V4 order? I was looking for a set that I could grow into and continue to develop my game. Can someone explain the playability differences between the TE+ V4 and the KE4 Maxes? I understand the Max are more forgiving, but I'm curious about what (if anything) I would gain with the TE+? Although I have to say I think I would prefer the look of the V4s, that pearl finish looks incredible.

 

 

 

If you are playing well with the KE4 Max, why would you want to make the game harder?  They certainly will not inhibit you from developing your game.

[ode]

1 hour ago, donkeynice said:

While waiting for my TE+ V4 order to be fulfilled (ordered on 6/22), I got impatient and ordered a used set of KE4 Maxes off eBay. Took them to the range a few nights ago and hit the course last night for 9 holes. I'm not kidding when I say I didn't have a single bad iron shot the entire round. My miss tends to be thinning/topping the ball, and while I still thinned a few shots, they were straight and with distance—very forgiving. Shot my best-ever 41.
 

So now my question is, should I cancel my TE+ V4 order? I was looking for a set that I could grow into and continue to develop my game. Can someone explain the playability differences between the TE+ V4 and the KE4 Maxes? I understand the Max are more forgiving, but I'm curious about what (if anything) I would gain with the TE+? Although I have to say I think I would prefer the look of the V4s, that pearl finish looks incredible.

 

 

 

Forged and sexy is what you lose.....lots of folks would also suggest workability and feel.  IMO feel is vastly overrated as it relates to performance.  You have to decide on workability, but IMO there will be minimal difference, it's more about a good fit and being able to hit the shots you require!  You have a good "problem" on your hands🙃

Edited yesterday at 05:11 PM by ode

[Coatesy76]

2 hours ago, mstuewe said:

Maltby should give you a discount as a reward for reading every post in this thread. 

Haha, it was alot.... But very informative.

[deepred]

Winn style grips make more a feel difference for me than does club head construction. My KE4 Tour+ with DriTec grips feel softer than any of the forged  heads I have tried over the past four years which is 5 different heads.

[mustang]

11 hours ago, Coatesy76 said:

Hi all new user here... I have literally read this entire thread and it has encouraged me to go ahead and buy the ts3 irons built with dart v 105 f4's. I'm in Vegas and play as much as I can, but feel the ts3 are going to provide that little extra forgiveness when my game is not on point. Love the comradery and helpfulness of all in this thread. Excited to give these a shot!

You will love them.   Great irons!    

[snuzzo29]

Been alternating playing my TS3 set and TS4 set. The TS4s definitely require a more consistent strike vs the TS3 that I feel offer more forgiveness. I have been considering switching back to my TS3 set and switching the shafts out from DG X100 to DG 120 X100.

[CROUSE99]

14 hours ago, Coatesy76 said:

Just a mere 117... but as they say, "it's a dry heat" 😂

So’s an oven. 

[TommyRam]

12 hours ago, donkeynice said:

While waiting for my TE+ V4 order to be fulfilled (ordered on 6/22), I got impatient and ordered a used set of KE4 Maxes off eBay. Took them to the range a few nights ago and hit the course last night for 9 holes. I'm not kidding when I say I didn't have a single bad iron shot the entire round. My miss tends to be thinning/topping the ball, and while I still thinned a few shots, they were straight and with distance—very forgiving. Shot my best-ever 41.
 

So now my question is, should I cancel my TE+ V4 order? I was looking for a set that I could grow into and continue to develop my game. Can someone explain the playability differences between the TE+ V4 and the KE4 Maxes? I understand the Max are more forgiving, but I'm curious about what (if anything) I would gain with the TE+? Although I have to say I think I would prefer the look of the V4s, that pearl finish looks incredible.

 

 

 

Give them a call on Monday. If the order hasn't been touched yet as far as the build, (but that point may have already passed), I myself would see if they will change it to a single club of the TE+ instead. Then you can compare them with less potential regret. Don't know if you ordered a club-pak, but if you want, they usually will note on your account that you might be back within resonable time to buy the rest of set if it works, and you would get the Pak price adjustment like if you bought the whole set at once.