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WHY..LOW Handicap (wrong equipment???)
Hello all; I was hoping to get some input regarding a couple of my clubs. Per my signature I am back to playing blades..MP-32s and love them. I hit these great with a slight draw and down the target line. My swing is better now than it has ever been..I should be close to a 1 handicap within a few weeks. Anyways, when I set my wrists on the downswing my Callaway X 3 wood and X hybrid I can feel the heel weighting closing the clubface much faster than my other clubs. I have a FT-5 neutral Tour Driver that is great, but I hit these pull hooks with those 2 clubs. I have a 5 wood in closet and thats even worse. Its not the shaft..have the Blueboard 83X in both woods and the VS Proto 80X in hybrid. They may be closed or either very heel weighted would be my guess. Can anyone confirm this. Any recommendations on a neutral weighted 15 deg 3 wood and 19/20 deg hybrid that is not closed.

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 Project X Denali Black 60S Driver

Callaway AI Smoke TD Tensei AV White 75 Stiff 3 Wood

Callaway Apex UW 19 & 21 deg MMT 70 Stiff Hybrids

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-7 Project X IO 5.5 Irons

Mizuno 243 8-PW Nippon Modus 120 Stiff Irons

Cleveland RTX 6 46.10, 52.10, 58.06 TI DG Spinner Wedges

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

TaylorMade TP5

Vessel Lux XV 2.0 Black Cart Bag

 

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While I am nowhere near your handicap and am most likely not qualified to offer advice, I too had problems hitting my Callaway FT 3 hybrid when I first purchased it. I couldn't understand how everyone in the world said hybrids were so easy to hit and all the professional instructors would always say "you don't know how many shots you are giving away if you don't have a hybrid in the bag".

 

I can swing and hit my 3i just fine, but had a tough time with the 3 hybrid. I would pull hook it everytime. It lined up funny to me and just looked funny to me. Turns out it was the fault of my take away and swing. I really have to focus and concetrate and making a good swing to hit the hybrid straight.

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I love my Callaway FT-i tour driver, but like you, have never been able to control their fairway woods or hybrids. Every time I've tried one I hit an uncontrollable hook. My only guess is that they have a closed face. I believe the tour drivers are 1* open. I just wanted to let you know that I share your experience with Cally fairways and hybrids.

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Taylormade  M Gloire Fairway JDM 15* - Speeder Evolution SR

Daiwa ONOFF ARMS AKA Fairway JDM 21* - Daiwa MP-520F SR

Taylormade  Gloire U4 Utility Iron JDM 20* - Nippon 950GH S

Callaway  Epic Max Fast Forged JDM 7 - AW - Nippon 950GH Neo S

Callaway  Epic Max Star JDM GW 48* - Nippon 950GH Neo S

Callaway  Epic Forged Star JDM SW 55* - Nippon 950GH S

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I have come up with a list of some hybrids with anti-left tendencies..Sonartec HB-1, Titleist585H, Bridgestone J36, Mizuno CLK, and Adams Idea Pro. Any recommendations and these.

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 Project X Denali Black 60S Driver

Callaway AI Smoke TD Tensei AV White 75 Stiff 3 Wood

Callaway Apex UW 19 & 21 deg MMT 70 Stiff Hybrids

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-7 Project X IO 5.5 Irons

Mizuno 243 8-PW Nippon Modus 120 Stiff Irons

Cleveland RTX 6 46.10, 52.10, 58.06 TI DG Spinner Wedges

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

TaylorMade TP5

Vessel Lux XV 2.0 Black Cart Bag

 

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Callaway, especially the woods, are always a couple of degrees closed. If you have a natural draw, as I do, you will hit it left more often then not. You have to slightly open the face, the tiniest bit, and take your normal swing. I have had the Steelhead Plus 3 wood for a number of my years in my bag now, I love it! But I don't like how Callaway closes the face on most if not all their clubs.

Titleist TSR4 10° Atmos Blue 7X

Titleist TSR3 15° Tensei Blue 80TX
Titleist TSR3 19° Ventus Blue HB 9X

Titleist T200 4, T100 5-PW PX 6.5

Titleist Vokey SM9 50°F X100/54°D/60°M TI S400
TaylorMade Spider GTX Black 34"

TaylorMade TP5

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Like jbarbour, I am not the golfer you are, but I was having the same problem with my driver and 3 wood. My pro fixed me up. The fact that you are PULL-hooking might mean that with these clubs you are coming over the top, maybe over-swinging. My pro had me open my stance and consentrate on swinging toward second base until I got over the pull. It worked. Now I am on to new swing problems.

TSr 2, 11 driver, Tensei Blue, 55r

TSi 2, 16.5 fairway wood, Tensei Blue, 65r

Aerojet, 21 fairway wood, Kai’li Blue, 65r
Qi10 22 hybrid, Ventus Blue, 65r
AP3, 5-48* - Steelfiber i95 r
Vokey SM9 - 52, 56, KBS Tour lite
Evnroll ER2,  33"
 

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IMO its probably not the clubs, 4 handicaps are capable of making bad swings fairly often. I've hit both of the clubs you are talking about and there is just no way that you can feel the heel weighting of the club closing down the face. I mean you can go out and buy new clubs like an Idea Pro but I'd bet you are still going to hook them. I'm a +2 and I have an Idea Pro Gold and when I miss it goes left...its not the club its my swing.

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I would say its not the clubs, check the swing weight, or if possible get some camera time when swinging those clubs compared to say a 5 iron

something is causing it and it could be over swinging them to try and elevate the ball off the deck

 

those 2 clubs unless they are draw biased should not cause a hook, the path thru impact causes a hook

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Sounds like you got the ball too forward in your stance....try moving it back a little and feel like you're hitting down on the ball.

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Callaway XHot Pro 15* Project X 6.5
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 2 Iron C-Taper X
Bridgeston J40CB 3-PW Project X 6.0
Ping Anser 54*,60* Project X 6.0
Taylormade Imola 8 35"

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I will vouch for the Adams Idea Pro. Favorite club in the bag. I also have the 585H and Adams Idea Pro Gold but the original Idea Pro is in the bag.

TM SIM 10.5° OBAN Devotion 06  Flex 05
TM M2 16.5° Fujikura Pro73
Cally Rogue 19° Synergy
PXG  0311P Gen3  4i - GW Modus 120
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