Callaway Scoring System Excel Sheet

[JMazz]

[quote name='photofox55' timestamp='1359503937' post='6325295']
...also, in the Callaway system, the largest handicap permitted is 50. For example, if a player scored 8 on every hole of a course that had par values of 4 on every hole, he would be entitled to a deduction of 7 1/2 holes with a gross score of 144. So, according to the table, the calculated handicap would be (7 * 8) + 4 + 1 = 61. In the Callaway world, this would be reduced to 50 resulting in a net Callaway score of 144 - 50 = 94. 144 - 61 = 83 would be incorrect. I don't know if the Scheid variation has the same restriction.
[/quote]

Good catch there. I've updated my Callaway sheet to include the maximum of 50 for a handicap although the sheet only goes up to a maximum score in the 120s before it decides to call it quits... I guess my assumption was that if someone shoots that high a score they probably need to be on the range not the course!

This is the first time I've checked back on this in a while. It's good to see these sheets are getting some play!

[orregoa]

Hello,

Would appreciate your help...I'm setting up a template for atlantic scoringf. I have everything working but stuck at the level of deducting points.

Points will be deducted from total highest scores based on the below table condition. What is the formula that I can use under column "X" of the attached file & also perform a conditional formatting of values?

This is the "Atlantic Scoring" method of calculation.

How points are deducted is that you take your gross score & deduct your highest score per hole following the table.

Column Z is indicating amount of holes that required to be deducted.

Example:
For player 1

Gross score: 81

Highest scores per hole
Hole 16 =7
Hole 14 =6 *calculated at .5

.5 calculation for hold 14 = (6/2)= 3

7+3=10

81-10
Atlantic score = 71

Thank you for your guidance.

[attachment=1715228:AO - ATLANTIC.xls]

Deduction Table by highest scores:
0 - 72 = 0
73 - 75 = 0.5
76 - 80 = 1
81 - 85 = 1.5
86 - 90 = 2
91 - 95 = 2.5
96 - 100 = 3
101 - 104 = 3.5
105 - 109 = 4
110 - 114 = 4.5
115 - 119 = 5
120 - 124 = 5.5
125 - 129 = 6
130 - 134 = 6.5
135 - 139 = 7
140 - 144 = 7.5
145 - 149 = 8
150 - 154 = 8.5
155 - 159 = 9

[JMazz]

[quote name='orregoa' timestamp='1370365304' post='7168074']
Hello,

Would appreciate your help...I'm setting up a template for atlantic scoringf. I have everything working but stuck at the level of deducting points.

Points will be deducted from total highest scores based on the below table condition. What is the formula that I can use under column "X" of the attached file & also perform a conditional formatting of values?

This is the "Atlantic Scoring" method of calculation.

How points are deducted is that you take your gross score & deduct your highest score per hole following the table.

Column Z is indicating amount of holes that required to be deducted.

Example:
For player 1

Gross score: 81

Highest scores per hole
Hole 16 =7
Hole 14 =6 *calculated at .5

.5 calculation for hold 14 = (6/2)= 3

7+3=10

81-10
Atlantic score = 71

Thank you for your guidance.

[attachment=1715228:AO - ATLANTIC.xls]

Deduction Table by highest scores:
0 - 72 = 0
73 - 75 = 0.5
76 - 80 = 1
81 - 85 = 1.5
86 - 90 = 2
91 - 95 = 2.5
96 - 100 = 3
101 - 104 = 3.5
105 - 109 = 4
110 - 114 = 4.5
115 - 119 = 5
120 - 124 = 5.5
125 - 129 = 6
130 - 134 = 6.5
135 - 139 = 7
140 - 144 = 7.5
145 - 149 = 8
150 - 154 = 8.5
155 - 159 = 9
[/quote]

This was actually the most complicated part in creating the formulas for the very first sheet. In large (haha), it uses the "large" function to compute 2nd, 3rd, 4th... etc max values. What really stinks is that Excel can only nest so many IFs into one cell so you end up needing to break it down into multiple cells and then have Excel choose the one that populates...

Your formula would look like this:

=IF(Z10=0,0,IF(Z10=0.5,MAX(C10:T10)/2,IF(Z10=1,MAX(C10:T10),IF(Z10=1.5,MAX(C10:T10)+LARGE(C10:T10,2)/2,IF(Z10=2,MAX(C10:T10)+LARGE(C10:T10,2),IF(Z10=2.5,MAX(C10:T10)+LARGE(C10:T10,2)+LARGE(C10:T10,3)/2,IF(Z10=3,MAX(C10:T10)+LARGE(C10:T10,2)+LARGE(C10:T10,3),"")))))))

The logic here is as follows. If your handicap is 0 (per the chart), you get zero, otherwise, if your handicap is 0.5, you get 1/2 your worst hole, otherwise, if your handicap is 1, you get your worst hole, otherwise, if you handicap is 1.5, you get your worst hole plus 1/2 your next worst hole... etc... all the way to 3 handicap. This is where Excel says... "Hey bud... no mo IFs"

So, you will need to expand this to multiple cells going all the way to a handicap of 9. It will probably be 3 cells worth. Then, you'll need a formula that pulls the handicap that populates.

Does this help?

[orregoa]

Thank you very much for your time & reply.

I was able to accomplish this instead with a helper column which is much cleaner.



My formula under column AC10:
=IF(ROUNDUP($AA10,0)-COLUMN(A1)+1<=0, "", IF($AA10-COLUMN(A1)+1<1,LARGE($C10:$T10,COLUMN(A1))*0.5,LARGE($C10:$T10,COLUMN(A1))))

[szochowski]

[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1361324481' post='6461899']
Updated Callaway Tournament spread sheet attached .. hole by hole skins are highlighted, and the Leader board displays the number of skins won by each player.

[attachment=1546703:Callaway-Tournament-Scorecard-v2.0.xls]
[/quote]

[szochowski]

excellent work here indeed.

[szochowski]

[quote name='szochowski' timestamp='1375237530' post='7573150']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1361324481' post='6461899']
Updated Callaway Tournament spread sheet attached .. hole by hole skins are highlighted, and the Leader board displays the number of skins won by each player.

[attachment=1546703:Callaway-Tournament-Scorecard-v2.0.xls]
[/quote]
[/quote]

[szochowski]

[quote name='szochowski' timestamp='1375237530' post='7573150']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1361324481' post='6461899']
Updated Callaway Tournament spread sheet attached .. hole by hole skins are highlighted, and the Leader board displays the number of skins won by each player.

[attachment=1546703:Callaway-Tournament-Scorecard-v2.0.xls]
[/quote]
[/quote]

[szochowski]

[quote name='szochowski' timestamp='1375237530' post='7573150']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1361324481' post='6461899']
Updated Callaway Tournament spread sheet attached .. hole by hole skins are highlighted, and the Leader board displays the number of skins won by each player.

[attachment=1546703:Callaway-Tournament-Scorecard-v2.0.xls]
[/quote]
[/quote]

[szochowski]

the highlighted numbers indicating the double par scores are great. can we take it another step further and make some conditional formatting on the hidden portion of the sheet where the range is to indicate with scores were used to calculate the "worst" scores for that player. For the life of me I can't figure it out.

[aThan]

i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...

[ehbee]

[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0

[aThan]

[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376108748' post='7645952']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboa...om/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

[url="https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0"]https://skydrive.liv...ACocIuggf-J7mx0[/url]
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the reply buddy, can i ask how do you compute for getting the worst holes?, in formula in excel explanation and in "human word explanation" if that is the right word for it,LOL, cause i need to explain how i get the worst holes ifever i am ask,thanks you very much again buddy, you are a spreedsheet hustler

[ehbee]

[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376297682' post='7658662']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376108748' post='7645952']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboa...om/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

[url="https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0"]https://skydrive.liv...ACocIuggf-J7mx0[/url]
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the reply buddy, can i ask how do you compute for getting the worst holes?, in formula in excel explanation and in "human word explanation" if that is the right word for it,LOL, cause i need to explain how i get the worst holes ifever i am ask,thanks you very much again buddy, you are a spreedsheet hustler
[/quote]

I'm not sure how much detail you're after, but here are the steps that I use. I'm sure that there is a more elegant solution using array formulas, but I think this solution is easier to understand. The spreadsheet uses "helper" columns which are hidden ... the spreadsheet is not password protected, but it is locked to prevent accidental changes to formulas. You can unprotect the sheet and then unhide the columns to see the formulas used.

In the first step, the adjusted gross scores (maximum double par)are placed in columns Y through AP. The next step is to eliminate the "OMIT" holes (in the sample, holes 16, 17, and 18)so the score on these holes is changed to zero. Columns AS through BJ are used to contain the range of scores which now implement the max double par rule AND eliminate the OMIT holes. This is the range of scores which will be searched for the worst scores.

The next step determines how many holes are to be included in the worst score calculation by looking up (Excel VLOOKUP command) the total adjusted gross score against the adjustment table for the par rating for the course layout. For player 2 (Jeff) the total adjusted gross score of 113 results in 4 1/2 worst holes. The program then looks up the scores for the worst holes by using the LARGE command ... example ... LARGE (list,1) will return the largest score from the range of scores defined by the range "list". (Could also use the MAX command for the largest). So the calculation for player 2 looks like this:

LARGE(list,1)+LARGE(list,2)+LARGE(list,3)+LARGE(list,4)+(LARGE(list,5)/2)

The last step is to add the final adjustment from the handicap table to calculate the total stokes to be deducted.

Hope this explanation helps.

[aThan]

[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376362505' post='7665060']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376297682' post='7658662']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376108748' post='7645952']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboa...om/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

[url="https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0"]https://skydrive.liv...ACocIuggf-J7mx0[/url]
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the reply buddy, can i ask how do you compute for getting the worst holes?, in formula in excel explanation and in "human word explanation" if that is the right word for it,LOL, cause i need to explain how i get the worst holes ifever i am ask,thanks you very much again buddy, you are a spreedsheet hustler
[/quote]

I'm not sure how much detail you're after, but here are the steps that I use. I'm sure that there is a more elegant solution using array formulas, but I think this solution is easier to understand. The spreadsheet uses "helper" columns which are hidden ... the spreadsheet is not password protected, but it is locked to prevent accidental changes to formulas. You can unprotect the sheet and then unhide the columns to see the formulas used.

In the first step, the adjusted gross scores (maximum double par)are placed in columns Y through AP. The next step is to eliminate the "OMIT" holes (in the sample, holes 16, 17, and 18)so the score on these holes is changed to zero. Columns AS through BJ are used to contain the range of scores which now implement the max double par rule AND eliminate the OMIT holes. This is the range of scores which will be searched for the worst scores.

The next step determines how many holes are to be included in the worst score calculation by looking up (Excel VLOOKUP command) the total adjusted gross score against the adjustment table for the par rating for the course layout. For player 2 (Jeff) the total adjusted gross score of 113 results in 4 1/2 worst holes. The program then looks up the scores for the worst holes by using the LARGE command ... example ... LARGE (list,1) will return the largest score from the range of scores defined by the range "list". So the calculation for player 2 looks like this:
LARGE(
The calculation for the worst holes uses the Excel LARGE command.
[/quote]


Thank you again buddy now i see,how you omit and adj. double par, but please correct me in my idea in getting the worst holes, so the worst holes is get base only in the number of strikes?,my concern is this, a hole with par 6 with 7 strike is worst than hole with 4 par and 6 strikes am i getting it right?,thank you for making it clear to me.

sorry to ask again but how you get the handicap of how many worst holes and handicap, where can i see the formula?,and i also like to ask why the maximum deduction is 50?, and is the file [u]Scheid -Calloway-Tournament-Scorecard-v3.5.xls[/u] is good to use?, thank you again buddy, i will wait for your reply, you are such a great man thank you.

[ehbee]

[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376363960' post='7665224']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376362505' post='7665060']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376297682' post='7658662']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376108748' post='7645952']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboa...om/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

[url="https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0"]https://skydrive.liv...ACocIuggf-J7mx0[/url]
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the reply buddy, can i ask how do you compute for getting the worst holes?, in formula in excel explanation and in "human word explanation" if that is the right word for it,LOL, cause i need to explain how i get the worst holes ifever i am ask,thanks you very much again buddy, you are a spreedsheet hustler
[/quote]

I'm not sure how much detail you're after, but here are the steps that I use. I'm sure that there is a more elegant solution using array formulas, but I think this solution is easier to understand. The spreadsheet uses "helper" columns which are hidden ... the spreadsheet is not password protected, but it is locked to prevent accidental changes to formulas. You can unprotect the sheet and then unhide the columns to see the formulas used.

In the first step, the adjusted gross scores (maximum double par)are placed in columns Y through AP. The next step is to eliminate the "OMIT" holes (in the sample, holes 16, 17, and 18)so the score on these holes is changed to zero. Columns AS through BJ are used to contain the range of scores which now implement the max double par rule AND eliminate the OMIT holes. This is the range of scores which will be searched for the worst scores.

The next step determines how many holes are to be included in the worst score calculation by looking up (Excel VLOOKUP command) the total adjusted gross score against the adjustment table for the par rating for the course layout. For player 2 (Jeff) the total adjusted gross score of 113 results in 4 1/2 worst holes. The program then looks up the scores for the worst holes by using the LARGE command ... example ... LARGE (list,1) will return the largest score from the range of scores defined by the range "list". So the calculation for player 2 looks like this:
LARGE(
The calculation for the worst holes uses the Excel LARGE command.
[/quote]


Thank you again buddy now i see,how you omit and adj. double par, but please correct me in my idea in getting the worst holes, so the worst holes is get base only in the number of strikes?,my concern is this, a hole with par 6 with 7 strike is worst than hole with 4 par and 6 strikes am i getting it right?,thank you for making it clear to me.

sorry to ask again but how you get the handicap of how many worst holes and handicap, where can i see the formula?,and i also like to ask why the maximum deduction is 50?, and is the file [u]Scheid -Calloway-Tournament-Scorecard-v3.5.xls[/u] is good to use?, thank you again buddy, i will wait for your reply, you are such a great man thank you.
[/quote]

The worst holes to be deducted are holes with the highest scores, regardless of the par rating on the hole. As for the maximum stroke deduction of 50 ... that's just one of the rules (See this link for more info)

http://www.golftoday.co.uk/golf_a_z/articles/callaway_scoring_system.html

The Scheid spreadsheet (v3.5) is the current version, and it has also been posted to the Skydrive link listed above.

[aThan]

[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376446154' post='7672204']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376363960' post='7665224']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376362505' post='7665060']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376297682' post='7658662']
[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376108748' post='7645952']
[quote name='aThan' timestamp='1376096252' post='7644720']
i know the thread is old but i really need you're help,
If you have some spare time can you help me make an excel file that is suited for the handicap base on the link [url="http://www.leaderboard.com/callaway.htm"]http://www.leaderboa...om/callaway.htm[/url], 16-18 holes omitted,i try the excels attach but it gave the wrong net score using the example 2 on the link, i think it's simpler with no macro but i am not a master in excel so if it needs as long as it work it is good to me,thanks in advance buddy...
[/quote]
Here's a link to my Skydrive file where you'll find a version of the Calloway tournament scorecard. I've updated the file for round 1 to include the player names and scores from the example 2 that you indicated you were having trouble with. The spreadsheet is calculating the same results as documented in the link that you provided. I'm unable to post .xlsx type files on this forum, so that's why I posted the file to Skydrive. The file contains no macros ... just standard Excel formulas.

[url="https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75ECAA139212F71D!187&authkey=!ACocIuggf-J7mx0"]https://skydrive.liv...ACocIuggf-J7mx0[/url]
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the reply buddy, can i ask how do you compute for getting the worst holes?, in formula in excel explanation and in "human word explanation" if that is the right word for it,LOL, cause i need to explain how i get the worst holes ifever i am ask,thanks you very much again buddy, you are a spreedsheet hustler
[/quote]

I'm not sure how much detail you're after, but here are the steps that I use. I'm sure that there is a more elegant solution using array formulas, but I think this solution is easier to understand. The spreadsheet uses "helper" columns which are hidden ... the spreadsheet is not password protected, but it is locked to prevent accidental changes to formulas. You can unprotect the sheet and then unhide the columns to see the formulas used.

In the first step, the adjusted gross scores (maximum double par)are placed in columns Y through AP. The next step is to eliminate the "OMIT" holes (in the sample, holes 16, 17, and 18)so the score on these holes is changed to zero. Columns AS through BJ are used to contain the range of scores which now implement the max double par rule AND eliminate the OMIT holes. This is the range of scores which will be searched for the worst scores.

The next step determines how many holes are to be included in the worst score calculation by looking up (Excel VLOOKUP command) the total adjusted gross score against the adjustment table for the par rating for the course layout. For player 2 (Jeff) the total adjusted gross score of 113 results in 4 1/2 worst holes. The program then looks up the scores for the worst holes by using the LARGE command ... example ... LARGE (list,1) will return the largest score from the range of scores defined by the range "list". So the calculation for player 2 looks like this:
LARGE(
The calculation for the worst holes uses the Excel LARGE command.
[/quote]


Thank you again buddy now i see,how you omit and adj. double par, but please correct me in my idea in getting the worst holes, so the worst holes is get base only in the number of strikes?,my concern is this, a hole with par 6 with 7 strike is worst than hole with 4 par and 6 strikes am i getting it right?,thank you for making it clear to me.

sorry to ask again but how you get the handicap of how many worst holes and handicap, where can i see the formula?,and i also like to ask why the maximum deduction is 50?, and is the file [u]Scheid -Calloway-Tournament-Scorecard-v3.5.xls[/u] is good to use?, thank you again buddy, i will wait for your reply, you are such a great man thank you.
[/quote]

The worst holes to be deducted are holes with the highest scores, regardless of the par rating on the hole. As for the maximum stroke deduction of 50 ... that's just one of the rules (See this link for more info)

[url="http://www.golftoday.co.uk/golf_a_z/articles/callaway_scoring_system.html"]http://www.golftoday...ing_system.html[/url]

The Scheid spreadsheet (v3.5) is the current version, and it has also been posted to the Skydrive link listed above.
[/quote]


Thank you very much again buddy, now i understand it, you helped me alot, Thank you!

[JMazz]

I've made an update to my version of the Callaway scoring sheet. The sheet will now accept scores of up to 150. Also, I've added a skins page and instructions on how to use it. The sheet is attached. Also, if anyone is unable to download the sheet, feel free to email me and I will send it out to you. [email protected]

[aThan]

need additional help, how can i change the font and background color of the cell that contains the worst holes?,thank you for your reply buddies. please help me...

[GNY]

[quote name='JMazz' timestamp='1376573553' post='7680934']
I've made an update to my version of the Callaway scoring sheet. The sheet will now accept scores of up to 150. Also, I've added a skins page and instructions on how to use it. The sheet is attached. Also, if anyone is unable to download the sheet, feel free to email me and I will send it out to you. [email protected]
[/quote]

Thanks.

[ts511]

I know this is an old thread, but does anyone know if you can get this to work on an iPad. What app you need to download? It works great on my Desktop. I have done some searches, but I hate to spend money on an app and it not work. Thanks

[granitebaygolfer]

Awesome! Any quick suggestions on how to change the computations to reflect a[url="http://www.popeofslope.com/scramble/handicapping.html"] modified Schied system for use in a scramble, as Knuth explains[/url]?

Is it as simple as changing the tables in the ParAdj sheets and the computations in the Handicap Rule column? (Column BL)

I thought I'd ask here before I dive into the spreadsheet as there may be others with the same question.

TIA

[granitebaygolfer]

I'd like to share Dean Knuth's thoughts on the Callaway and Schied handicap systems. I am putting together a spreadsheet based upon his modified Schied system for use in a scramble (see prior message for a link), so I asked him if his tables needed to be modified based upon a course's par (e.g., 70,71, 72). His answer indicates that the current spreadsheets' approach of different par tables is not needed. Also, if you start on a hole other than the course's first hole changes may be needed (I haven't looked at the spreadsheet in depth).

Here is his response, which I don't think he'll mind me sharing:

Nothing related to par in either system [i][Callaway or Schied][/i]. Same four notes apply to both:

Notes:
1. No hole may be scored at more than twice its par.
2. Half strokes count as whole.
3. The 17th and 18th holes are never deducted [i] [These are the last two holes you play, not necessarily the course's 17th and 18th holes][/i]
4. In case of ties, lowest handicap takes preference.

[drudixon]

[quote name='JMazz' timestamp='1313702021' post='3500061']
I had some spare time so I whipped one up in Excel. I'm pretty sure I worked all of the bugs out. It isn't anything flashy but it gets the job done. I've included an instruction tab and a macro in case you want to omit 16-18 as opposed to 17-18. I'm not sure if I can attach it here or not? I am giving it a shot.

Jared

EDIT: I guess that didn't work. Well, I have the excel file handy. If you can send me your email address or tell me how to attach things on this board I will send it out

EDIT EDIT: Full editor is tech. File attached!
[/quote]

Well crap, I was going to make one for $100...

[granitebaygolfer]

[quote name='ehbee' timestamp='1376446154' post='7672204']
<snip>

The worst holes to be deducted are holes with the highest scores, [u][color=#ff0000]regardless of the par rating on the hole[/color][/u]. As for the maximum stroke deduction of 50 ... that's just one of the rules (See this link for more info)

[url="http://www.golftoday.co.uk/golf_a_z/articles/callaway_scoring_system.html"]http://www.golftoday...ing_system.html[/url]

The Scheid spreadsheet (v3.5) is the current version, and it has also been posted to the Skydrive link listed above.
[/quote]

I'm in the process of coming up with a spreadsheet for scrambles based upon Knuth's article (see post #82 for details). It allows for shotgun starts, where your 17th and 18th holes played may not be the course's 17th and 18th holes.

One of his rules as well as other systems, including [url="http://www.myscorecard.com/cgi-bin/knowledgecenter.pl?mode=article&category=golf_handicap&file=scheid&article=The-Scheid-System"]Scheid's[/url], is that the worst hole deductions are in relation to par (e.g., a 5 on a par 3 is worse than a 6 on a par 5). I'll tackle this in a few days.

My main question is "Can anyone give me a reference to what calculations the hidden 'TourneyStats' sheet is trying to accomplish?" Very confusing :-)

TIA

[granitebaygolfer]

This is my first cut at a Scramble Tournament Spreadsheet, based upon [url="http://www.popeofslope.com/scramble/handicapping.html"]Knuth's modified Shied system[/url]. I exchanged emails with Knuth and his website isn't totally correct. I think the spreadsheet implements what he intended.

Some notes, the spreadsheet's "Adj" sheet has more details:[list]
[*]It is for a one-day event
[*]It allows for a shotgun start, where a group's starting hole determines its 17th and 18th holes (which usually aren't the course's 17th and 18th holes).
[*]Max score is a double bogey
[*]"Worst Holes" are computed relative to par
[*]The system does not care what a course's par is.
[/list]
I left the original sheet's worst hole computations, which were irrespective of par, in so you can see what difference there is in the two computations. [u]In order to compute the worst holes relative to par I used a User-Defined Function (i.e,, a macro)[/u]. I'm not an Excel expert, so I gave up trying to do the computations with standard Excel functions. (FWIW - this was the first user-defined function I've written).

The "Leader Board" sheet does not work. There are a bunch of computations relative to the hidden "Tourney Stats" sheet and player ranking on the "Round 1" sheet that I don't understand.

I am certainly not an Excel expert, so comments/suggestions are readily welcomed. Especially if you know how to replace the macro with standard Excel functions.

[url="https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n1k45bq9s2xczf/Scramble-Tournament-Scorecard-v1.xlsm"]You can find the spreadsheet here[/url].

P.S. A Big Thank You! to the original authors!

[lenoir]

Where can I find a scoring system excel sheet for match play?
Thanks in advance

[JMazz]

Dave from Cincinnati pointed out a flaw in the Par 70 and 71 sheets that would prevent high scorers from getting the correct handicap. This has been remedied. Thanks Dave. I've attached the latest.

As far as a match play scoring sheet goes... it wouldn't be hard to do but it seems overkill? I can't tell if that was a sarcastic post or not?

As far as modifying this for the scramble scoring... it can be done but the sheet you are using looks to be one of the ones that was a spin off of my original and I don't have a handle on the logic that the member used in his sheet (albeit cleaner than mine!)

[dblxpullhook]

I'm thinking about writing something web based to calculate scores using the Callway system. I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I couldn't find any online....

[ehbee]

[quote name='granitebaygolfer' timestamp='1401131987' post='9369497']
This is my first cut at a Scramble Tournament Spreadsheet, based upon [url="http://www.popeofslope.com/scramble/handicapping.html"]Knuth's modified Shied system[/url]. I exchanged emails with Knuth and his website isn't totally correct. I think the spreadsheet implements what he intended.

Some notes, the spreadsheet's "Adj" sheet has more details:[list]
[*]It is for a one-day event
[*]It allows for a shotgun start, where a group's starting hole determines its 17th and 18th holes (which usually aren't the course's 17th and 18th holes).
[*]Max score is a double bogey
[*]"Worst Holes" are computed relative to par
[*]The system does not care what a course's par is.
[/list]
I left the original sheet's worst hole computations, which were irrespective of par, in so you can see what difference there is in the two computations. [u]In order to compute the worst holes relative to par I used a User-Defined Function (i.e,, a macro)[/u]. I'm not an Excel expert, so I gave up trying to do the computations with standard Excel functions. (FWIW - this was the first user-defined function I've written).

The "Leader Board" sheet does not work. There are a bunch of computations relative to the hidden "Tourney Stats" sheet and player ranking on the "Round 1" sheet that I don't understand.

I am certainly not an Excel expert, so comments/suggestions are readily welcomed. Especially if you know how to replace the macro with standard Excel functions.

[url="https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n1k45bq9s2xczf/Scramble-Tournament-Scorecard-v1.xlsm"]You can find the spreadsheet here[/url].

P.S. A Big Thank You! to the original authors!
[/quote]

I'm not sure that I agree with the shotgun start rule that says you should omit the 17th and 18th holes that are played, not the 17th and 18th holes of the course. Seems to me that this will result in a handicap calculation that is not equitable to all groups. Some teams will have the number 1 handicap hole (the most difficult hole on the course) omitted, while other teams will have the number 18 handicap hole (the easiest) omitted. Seems to me that this would result in an unfair advantage to some groups, and a disadvantage to others. Does anybody agree?

There also seems to be some confusion regarding the determination of the worst holes ... I've seen some descriptions that clearly state that the worst hole is the hole with the highest gross score regardless of par rating, and I've also seen descriptions that suggest as you've described that the worst score should be determined relative to par. I'm not sure which is correct ... the spreadsheet that I posted previously did not use par rating in the worst hole determination.

I'll have a look and try to modify the spreadsheet to calculate worst holes relative to par using only Excel formulas. If I can figure it out, I'll post here.