Miura Vs. Chikara

[NCGA Handicapable]

Looking to rewedge my bag and am looking at these two brands. Can anyone that plays either of these in wedges give feedback on what they play? Pros/Cons. Or is there another brand that I should be looking at. Hoping to go with something Japenese/Foreign bc I think the quality is a little better. Thanks.

[teeitlow]

Yururi Raw Gekku. Check out tourspec.
-D

[swing981]

yururi 4 sure

[nitram]

I've played the Chikara V1 and V2's and also the Miura Yururi 1957 C and Y grind as well as it's immediate predecessor (whose model name escapes me). All models tested were 52 bent to (53) and 58*. I currently bag the V1 Protos and will as long as I can find them. My second choice would be the Yururi Miuras I described. To be honest, there's not a nickels worth between except in the feel department. The Chikara is very crisp while the Miura has the soft feel they are noted for. This is as honest as I can be about this. While I prefer the Chikara, I'd have zero qualms whatsoever to bagging the Miura.

[Man In The Miura]

Deciding between the aforementioned brands is a nice problem to have. I have the full slew of Miura, but someday will probably try a set of Yururi Raw Gekku... if they ever made them in lefty. Check out MadeInJapanGolf...http://madeinjapangolf.com/

[rwelshjr]

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Looking to rewedge my bag and am looking at these two brands. Can anyone that plays either of these in wedges give feedback on what they play? Pros/Cons. Or is there another brand that I should be looking at. Hoping to go with something Japenese/Foreign bc I think the quality is a little better. Thanks.
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I'm a bit biased because I work for the company; but, there's a reason why 30 Champions Tour players put Royal Collection clubs into their bags last season--oh, and they each did it without getting paid to or being part of a winner's pool. They did it because the Dual Bite CP wedges rock! When a 5x Open Championship winner plays 2 wedges most of the season, they must be special.

[Snufles]

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[quote name='NCGA Handicapable' timestamp='1326827708' post='4099967']
Looking to rewedge my bag and am looking at these two brands. Can anyone that plays either of these in wedges give feedback on what they play? Pros/Cons. Or is there another brand that I should be looking at. Hoping to go with something Japenese/Foreign bc I think the quality is a little better. Thanks.
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I'm a bit biased because I work for the company; but, there's a reason why 30 Champions Tour players put Royal Collection clubs into their bags last season--oh, and they each did it without getting paid to or being part of a winner's pool. They did it because the Dual Bite CP wedges rock! When a 5x Open Championship winner plays 2 wedges most of the season, they must be special.
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But Nick Price plays 588s so I think I will go that route.

[SwingMan]

I bag the Miura Y Grind 49, and the K Grind 56 (bent to 55) - I love both of these wedges. The K Grind - the fluted sole - is phenomenal in the sand, rough, fairway, and around the greens. As to the 59 C Grind, I haven't found comfort in the tightish lies of winter with that club -- it could be a confidence issue. But I would state with confidence that you will enjoy a Y Grind in the Gap Wedge and the K Grind in the 56. I use the DG Spinner Shaft - Wedge + in the Gap, and Wedge in the SW.

As to the lob wedge, if that is your specialty club for finesse shots -- I'd find a grind that fits what you do around the greens with it.

[FatMan]

[quote name='teamyonex' timestamp='1326853561' post='4102779']
Deciding between the aforementioned brands is a nice problem to have. I have the full slew of Miura, but someday will probably try a set of Yururi Raw Gekku... if they ever made them in lefty. Check out MadeInJapanGolf...http://madeinjapangolf.com/
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They make them lefty in 49, 53, 57 and 61* lofts.

[pitbull808]

Both great brands but I'm partial to the original V1's and Proto Types for Chikaras. I don't like the new forgings and find them much more clickier the the old one's. The sole grinds on the new wedges are also much more pedestrian then Carltons originals.

The Miura's are great wedges. Although I have many Chikara's, I'm currently using a Y bent to 52* and a K bent to 58*. It's tough for me to say considering how much I raved about Chikara's in the past but the feel and playability is superior, especially in the K grind.

[bobfoster]

[quote name='House of forged' timestamp='1326974064' post='4116159']
HI, while everyone has there opinion on wedges I must say Chikara!!!!!! And maybe he's never tried putting his equipment on tour and if he had in my opinion he ( Carl ) would be streets ahead!!!!!! I game both RC and the new CHIKARA and I must say It's CHIKARA ALL THE WAY. The new TOUR GRIND MB1 and CB IRONS are stunning very SOFT and I spoke to Carlton last week and the good thing with Carlton he does anything you require to what you order in terms of STAMPING, COLOUR, through there distributors so CHIKARA for me!!!
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+1. I know ... he's obscure. Hardly anyone has heard of him. But I have been playing his wedges for five years or so (after 40+ years of golf) ... ands ... well, I've just ordered 3 new ones, at $300 a pop ... yeah, they are THAT good. It is not just the feel, it is the grind ... the grind is just amazing.

Prior to Carl, I actually had two sets of wedges ... (because I play in a lot of different places) ... worried like crazy about bounce. Had one set for playing on the hardpan of (for instance) Texas ... and another set for places like Florida and Ireland ... thick, lush fairways.

Carl's grinds were a relevation. I feel like I can do anything with them by adjusting stance and grip and swing path ... pick it off asphalt, or flop it out of the thickest grass. Sand? Doesn't matter ... wet and hard, or soft and fluffy ...

Even more than that? You order a club from Carl ... and it is a long conversation ... those I have on order right now ... every aspect of the club is customized ... I specified the shaft, the grip, the finish, the metal, the grind, and exactly how I wanted the markings ... it genuinely IS a "prototype". I actually feel like I'm getting the same level of service that the pros get.

Yeah, he's expensive ... but if you can afford him, he is completely and totally worth it ...

[mizuno4ever]

can someone pm or email Carls email address.

Thanks

[JanKo]

Since I have the Ckhikara Prototypes, I don´t even want to hit any other wedge. They are just fantastic. Only thing I´m concerned about ist finding backups, when my set wears out.

Doesn´t get any better!

[SwingMan]

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I bag the Miura Y Grind 49, and the K Grind 56 (bent to 55) - I love both of these wedges. The K Grind - the fluted sole - is phenomenal in the sand, rough, fairway, and around the greens. As to the 59 C Grind, I haven't found comfort in the tightish lies of winter with that club -- it could be a confidence issue. But I would state with confidence that you will enjoy a Y Grind in the Gap Wedge and the K Grind in the 56. I use the DG Spinner Shaft - Wedge + in the Gap, and Wedge in the SW.

As to the lob wedge, if that is your specialty club for finesse shots -- I'd find a grind that fits what you do around the greens with it.
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After more play with the 59 C Grind (medium sole, 15 bounce, some relief) in the Miura, I'd say if you are an aggressive player, you will enjoy the club. I put the ball on almost non-existent lies - dirt, semi-dirt, and very little grass - you can't be squeamish in those conditions -- and if you go after it (hit ball first), it works well - ball gets up nicely. I played a Vokey SM4 60-10 (M Grind) against it on the same lies, and performance was comparable on 30-40 yard shots-- if you are aggressive, the Miura works- you can even open it up slightly.

Now in normal conditions - some grass, medium turf, the Miura will glide for you and work well to open it up to an advanced degree.

What I like about Miura as opposed to some of these radical grinds one sees -- is I believe you will find the Miura to be a more stable club on full shots over the others

[mauiatheart]

V1 Chikaras are the ones that I have had in my bag from their release. By far the best grind I have used, and I have tried most of Pitbull's clubs. I still wouldn't change. This coming from a guy that has Miura forged irons in his bag, and back up bags. The only adjustment I have on my gamer is I had Carlton put on a little more heel grind. But stock is just fine too.

[charl rogers]

i think mizuno are best japanese brand,

[charl rogers]

people pay for somehting not many people have but best is mizuno trust me ive seen their engineers work and they realy are inovative and new in designs that work.

[1tondriver]

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V1 Chikaras are the ones that I have had in my bag from their release. By far the best grind I have used, and I have tried most of Pitbull's clubs. I still wouldn't change. This coming from a guy that has Miura forged irons in his bag, and back up bags. The only adjustment I have on my gamer is I had Carlton put on a little more heel grind. But stock is just fine too.
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What is the head size on these V-1's? Ultra compact, compact, ???

[pitbull808]

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[quote name='mauiatheart' timestamp='1328317324' post='4208945']
V1 Chikaras are the ones that I have had in my bag from their release. By far the best grind I have used, and I have tried most of Pitbull's clubs. I still wouldn't change. This coming from a guy that has Miura forged irons in his bag, and back up bags. The only adjustment I have on my gamer is I had Carlton put on a little more heel grind. But stock is just fine too.
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What is the head size on these V-1's? Ultra compact, compact, ???
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Like a 588 Cleveland.

[owijaya]

i have miura black wedge (52 & 60), miura k-grind (56), yururi tour raw (52, 56, 60), and huwari black wedge IO grind from kyoei (52 &56).

Among these, I love the feel of huwari wedges. It is soft, solid, and really get the ball up and land softly.
However, I love the shape of yururi tour raw. The grind allow me to really open the club face.

Miura's wedge is good as well but huwari and yururi perform better on each field that I mentioned above.

I'm still looking for the wedge that can combine the shape of yururi with the feel of huwari.