The new hosel tech has two major flaws

[pegleg]

[quote name='Gpjojo' timestamp='1396276685' post='8986275']
We share facts the public is not aware of.

The public should demand these forgiveness test be publicized when new design are brought to market.
[/quote]

If the "public" is going to "demand" things of corporations, these things are WAY, WAY down the list. Ditto with "facts" that need to be shared.

As for the rest of the posts, surely, if a golfer can't manage to hit the sweet spot, then they can't control where their misses are. If they could control that, couldn't they as easily not miss?

More trolls than a Tolkien book.

[Duffy19]

Still liking your new Gloire, B? Had a chance to hit my friend's stock R on the range and on course. The feel of the head is great and better than my 1st gen but shaft too light and long at 46.5". Still in love with my Maxima/Crazy so was able to control my wandering eyes.

[QEight]

[quote name='Duffy19' timestamp='1396337837' post='8992703']
BTW, this is the JDM subforum isn't it?
[/quote]

He tries to keep this information under the radar, you know.

[Gpjojo]

It might be nice to know where to miss it. Unless your a pro that will happen.

It all about, Golf is a hard ask game and you need all the help you can get. Golfers fight it hard because they can't master it. Nothing like it whenever tihimgs come together and u get it right.

I laugh when I see all these post coming in when you bring the truth. It is like you stepped on scarred ground.

Just look thru the post and see how many have broken and then count the number of post.

Then think about all the people who really hit all over the face that are not on the site because they play once in awhile. It might be close but they do break there but just hit off the toe that the 3rd best place if you miss it.

[Kadin 25]

"I laugh when I see all these post coming in when you bring the truth."

The way I'm laughing at the "truth" now.

[mdgboxx]

[quote name='Gpjojo' timestamp='1396330070' post='8992499']
I meant to say without a doubt. The shaft.

I don't care if they break or not. I don't own one and would not use one if they gave it to me. It is your money.
If the OEM manufacturers watch this forum like Canada said. How about sharing the COR readings of their drivers outside the sweet spot.
That would very informative. Then have the old style readings to compare. That would be eye opener. They can't publish the sweet spot COR but they can outside the sweet spot.
[/quote]

Gone !

[Gpjojo]

Ha ha ha. People ask why I stop teaching and manufacturing drivers. I remember now.

[Oldboy]

are you saying these posts remind you of the responses you got from your students when you were a teacher .. uh that might tell you something

[xxio]

I will say one of the Japanese golf magazines used to publish where the sweetspot/"hotspot" was on drivers they tested. IMHO that could vary though from the same model because of manufacturing tolerances.

I haven't seen them publish that data in a long while, my access to Japanese golf magazines is limited.

[idrive]

The bottom line is we all try and hit the sweet spot.

Knowing where the hottest place to miss the sweet spot doesn't mean we can or will miss it there.
If we were that good we would just hit the sweet spot.

What we want to know is how big the sweet spot is and exactly where it is located. (shape, location on face)

Pretty much wraps this one up eh?

[epixep]

I don't even fully know what he's trying to say.

[xxio]

The data in the Japanese magazines helped because my general miss at the time was low and to the toe (now it is high and toe side), so far the only driver that has helped my high/toe miss is the CT 2.0

[idrive]

[quote name='epixep' timestamp='1396407350' post='9000167']
I don't even fully know what he's trying to say.
[/quote]

Don't feel bad.... just know it doesn't make you any different from the rest of us.

[greens hit]

[quote name='Gpjojo' timestamp='1396330070' post='8992499']I meant to say without a doubt. The shaft.

I don't care if they break or not. I don't own one and would not use one if they gave it to me. It is your money.
If the OEM manufacturers watch this forum like Canada said. How about sharing the COR readings of their drivers outside the sweet spot.
That would very informative. Then have the old style readings to compare. That would be eye opener. They can't publish the sweet spot COR but they can outside the sweet spot.[/quote]

If you want forgiveness, go to church. Meanwhile, why don't you just concentrate on teaching your students how to hit the sweetspot.

[tRoller]

Haha

[Gpjojo]

All legal drivers are equal when hit in the sweet spot.

How the shaft released at impact is the difference.

Swing speed and how long the ball is allowed to stay on the club face to allow the ball to fully compress determines Distance.

Miss forgiveness is the major factor and difference in driver heads to help your game.

Are u hearing any bells yet. Ha ha

[QEight]

Ha HAHAAA!

I guess we need SETI network to find intelligence in this thread.

Ha ha

[Pigems]

Gpjojo, you and Square should start a thread together, I think you might get along well

[Gpjojo]

MOI. Moment of interia

The torque of shaft and the distributed weight of the head rotating to square the club face at the swing speed you produce for impact. The path of the club head and the two angle of face determine the everything about the shot.

A beautiful thing when excuted to your maximum potential.

Yes adding or subtracting 15 to 20 grams of weight At different areas of the club head can change the outcome.

Can you buy a game No. But you can better it if u understand the dynamics.

[Golfrnut]

In case you didn't know, and are stuck in the 80s, we have these things called launch monitors now. They can tell us the relationship of club head speed to ball speed, and none of it agrees with your positions on the matter. Once the head is in a person's hands, you can easily tell which areas produce the best results, no need for COR data from the OEMs to give us that info.

We also have some really bright people in the industry, to include Tom Wishon, who designs club heads for a living. I would be willing to start betting paychecks that he can enlighten you to some information that also disproves pretty much everything you have said so far.

[PingG10guy]

[quote name='Fade to Black' timestamp='1396312788' post='8990555']
My R11 did break at the hotel sending the head flying a good 20 yards.

I guess there's my 1/20
[/quote]

Since it is a TM it went 17 yards further than other drivers?

[Gpjojo]

How is tom now days . He always checked my Designs and ran my test. Golfnut ur right golf has changed . You get in a room and computer tells you this and that.

But there is nothing like Champions driving range where you get at the other and actually see what the flight, the distance and the role out actually happening Then walk away with that one of kind Driver u just hit. Ever tried to buy a demo club?

[Gpjojo]

Your are absolutely right. Hit the sweet spot to where you are aiming fixes everything. Make it happen.

Golf is hard way to have fun. Good luck on your adventure

[Golfrnut]

Time for the 'ol "thread has run it's course" posts.....

[Kadin 25]

[quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1396484135' post='9006925']
Time for the 'ol "thread has run it's course" posts.....
[/quote]You forgot the international sign...

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[GoIrish17]

Even though I'm not even sure what it's about, this thread is solid gold. Glad I stumbled on it. Oh, and this...

[media=]http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0[/media]

[SheriffBooth]

It seems that we have resolved some important issues regarding Japanese Domestic Equipment in this thread.

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