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Interesting information.  I am currently trying to decide which launch monitor to go with, for a home simulator build project I am about to start.  I am left handed and my sons are right handed, so I need a system that acommodates both, with minimal adjustment.  I have been looking at Trackman 4, Full Swing, GC Hawk, and Uneekor Eye XO. There are pros and cons to each system, as stated above. For those with experience on multiple systems mentioned above, any recommendations?  It seems from the thread that everyone posting on this thread would direct me towards GC Hawk.  Am I correct?

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On 12/30/2022 at 8:53 AM, Mob said:

Interesting information.  I am currently trying to decide which launch monitor to go with, for a home simulator build project I am about to start.  I am left handed and my sons are right handed, so I need a system that acommodates both, with minimal adjustment.  I have been looking at Trackman 4, Full Swing, GC Hawk, and Uneekor Eye XO. There are pros and cons to each system, as stated above. For those with experience on multiple systems mentioned above, any recommendations?  It seems from the thread that everyone posting on this thread would direct me towards GC Hawk.  Am I correct?

 

Uneekor Eye XO or Hawk have my vote due to them being photometric (much better for indoors), and convenient for both left and right handed golfers.  Uneekor is more cost effective I think and less frustrating than the nickel and diming Foresight Sports imo, so I would lean more heavily in that direction.

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1 minute ago, clevited said:

 

Uneekor Eye XO or Hawk have my vote due to them being photometric (much better for indoors), and convenient for both left and right handed golfers.  Uneekor is more cost effective I think and less frustrating than the nickel and diming Foresight Sports imo, so I would lean more heavily in that direction.

Thanks, I have moved away from trackman for that reason.  I have narrowed it down to FullSwing and Uneekor.  The width of my room is 14 feet, so I may need to have the ability to move off of the center for the driver, so I don't worry about it being near the wall.  FullSwing has a much wider space to move the ball around than Uneekor does, so I have to factor that in as well.

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Titleist TSR2 with Metaflex 5H shaft 
Titleist TSR2 16.5 degree fwy with Ventus Red 7 stiff shaft
Ping G430 19 and 22 degree hybrids with Ventus Blue HB 8 stiff shaft
Srixon ZX7 mkii 5-PW with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts

Titleist SM9 50F, 54D, 58T wedge with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts
L.A.B. MEZZ Max putter with LAGP putter shaft

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If you have an extra screen set up, you can put up some additional info on the extra screen like the Numbers tab that you normally see in the range while you're playing VG.

 

I've noticed that the extra screen will show the "proper", normalized numbers whereas VG will take into account what the "lie" is and adjust accordingly.  The end result might be that the Numbers screen shows you hit your 7i 185 whereas the penalty from the lie in VG will make it go 130 (or whatever else it might be).

 

I've found the extra screen invaluable when evaluating whether I just mishit the ball completely or if it was just the software "nerfing" my ball flight.

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I have more experience with GC2 and GC quad and just purchased the BLP, went to the new 2nd swing store open in Colony Texas couple days ago and tried out a different things in the Bay, set up with trackman using variety of golf balls. 

 

Driver, fairway wood seems to be fine, hitting some 8 irons (770 and forge tec) and get me all confused, 104 - 110 BS and spinning almost 6500 to 7500 and I know I don't spin iron like that, distance is like almost 10 yard shorter than I expected.  I probably need to bring my own RCT ball to try their stuff out next time,

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On 3/2/2023 at 12:11 PM, dandoholy said:

If you have an extra screen set up, you can put up some additional info on the extra screen like the Numbers tab that you normally see in the range while you're playing VG.

 

I've noticed that the extra screen will show the "proper", normalized numbers whereas VG will take into account what the "lie" is and adjust accordingly.  The end result might be that the Numbers screen shows you hit your 7i 185 whereas the penalty from the lie in VG will make it go 130 (or whatever else it might be).

 

I've found the extra screen invaluable when evaluating whether I just mishit the ball completely or if it was just the software "nerfing" my ball flight.

 

 

So when the ball speed tile pops up in game, does it nerf the speed for the lie then and display that?  We didn't have an extra screen to display raw data if there is the ability to do that.  I was unable to play much on the local Trackman simulator this year to test again, but I know without a doubt I had the ball speed tile show up much slower than actual when compared to my GC3 at seemingly random times hitting from fairway which should be 100% ball speed.  This was last winter.

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21 hours ago, clevited said:

So when the ball speed tile pops up in game, does it nerf the speed for the lie then and display that?  We didn't have an extra screen to display raw data if there is the ability to do that.  I was unable to play much on the local Trackman simulator this year to test again, but I know without a doubt I had the ball speed tile show up much slower than actual when compared to my GC3 at seemingly random times hitting from fairway which should be 100% ball speed.  This was last winter.

 

The in game ball speed tile is post-nerf, yeah.  If you have an extra screen, it'll almost always be higher than your in game tile (might be different if you apply wind).  That's been my experience at least (I get on Trackman ~5 times a week).

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On 3/7/2023 at 12:54 PM, dandoholy said:

 

The in game ball speed tile is post-nerf, yeah.  If you have an extra screen, it'll almost always be higher than your in game tile (might be different if you apply wind).  That's been my experience at least (I get on Trackman ~5 times a week).

Ok thanks, I will check this out next time playing.  Started back up playing a spring league.

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