Another old Ping mod

[Motoboss]

OK, so I put the voodoo on what you do, sorry 🤣 but now’s an opportunity to drill thru a matching end with the 303 and a nice satin finish.

 

 

or not……….

 

 

[MachineHack]

3 minutes ago, Motoboss said:

OK, so I put the voodoo on what you do, sorry 🤣 but now’s an opportunity to drill thru a matching end with the 303 and a nice satin finish.

 

 

or not……….

 

 

well I can’t just have one hole on one end can I hahahaha

 

it’s killing my OCD side, think the w80cu20 rod has found it’s first project once it arrives 

[Motoboss]

All mistakes are just opportunities for something new! 👍

[BIG STU]

4 hours ago, MachineHack said:

An excellent machinist probably Wouldn’t have put a brain fart hole all the way through lol. Is what it is my mind was preoccupied with trying to fix the failing DRO scales (both failed so that’s great lol) 

 

I might try a brush look or sand blast finish to this. Done the polish on the first one keen to try some other things 

 

 

I could get to 360, I don’t normally

play a head weight that high but it’s very much doable 
 

the accidental hole might be a happy accident, I’ve been thinking of ideas on how to fix it and my thoughts are to drill another on the toe, get the final weight after I face mill and use the two holes to add a touch more weight to dial a perfect 350 in. It’s still not ideal in my mind but it should salvage it 

Yep I was thinking on the same line as you were on fixing the mess up. Heck everyone messes up and most of us learn from screw ups.

[MachineHack]

Well in good news I was able to scavenge the slide off the lathe I’ve been wanting to replace anyways (not long enough) to fix the y axis and pulled the x axis apart to find a loose solder connection. So the DRO’s are back up and running and I can move on with face milling! I’ve already got this pattern done pretty excited for it. I really want to retain the ping man and ping logos on the side, so I’ve set the fly cutter to 52mm and will do a y axis pass on it 
 

Here’s the test pass on a very large piece of 6061 I paid a lot of money (well a lot for 6061)for years ago, never used for anything and now test face mill patterns on…. Excuse the depth of cut I didn’t bother to square this very well because I just wanted to see what it looked like 

[BIG STU]

13 minutes ago, MachineHack said:

Well in good news I was able to scavenge the slide off the lathe I’ve been wanting to replace anyways (not long enough) to fix the y axis and pulled the x axis apart to find a loose solder connection. So the DRO’s are back up and running and I can move on with face milling! I’ve already got this pattern done pretty excited for it. I really want to retain the ping man and ping logos on the side, so I’ve set the fly cutter to 52mm and will do a y axis pass on it 
 

Here’s the test pass on a very large piece of 6061 I paid a lot of money (well a lot for 6061)for years ago, never used for anything and now test face mill patterns on…. Excuse the depth of cut I didn’t bother to square this very well because I just wanted to see what it looked like 

Impressive!!!

[MachineHack]

New scale, sitting at 352 for those interested 

[Mulliganizer]

Forgive me for my lack of machining knowledge, but could you not drill the holes with just a normal drill press? 

 

[MachineHack]

1 minute ago, Mulliganizer said:

Forgive me for my lack of machining knowledge, but could you not drill the holes with just a normal drill press? 

 

Yah you 100% can, but all drill bits are pointed so you will end up taking out additional material. Also a 3/8th bit will drill a hole tolerance wise that is bigger that .375” where as an end mill bit will give you more precision. It all adds up so using a drill bit only would remove a few extra grams of material and make the head lighter
 

I still use a drill bit to get my depth set, end mill bits don’t love plunge cutting so it’s best to limit the material they have to plunge cut 

 

I mean end of the day I do it this way because I want to and i can. Not that I have too. 
 

although if you wanted to go bigger and not drill though the putter completely (say I went 20mm single weights each side) they you’d really have to use something like a boring bar or end mill because the length of the tip to full width of a 20mm drill bit is huge 

[MachineHack]

Got a lunch time mill session in WFH today 

 

this face mill was easily the most challenging I’ve had to do so far. I really wanted to keep the pingman and ping logos on the club face. Now the top little bit of an A4 actually has a higher loft then the rest of the club face, so after a first pass I had to reposition the club face in the vice and run it through again. I’m not sure if the fact the face mill had to be slightly off centre is going to drive me insane, but for this attempt I wanted to retain the original logos and that’s the only way, something had to give.

 

i think it turned out pretty well, sitting on my hands now waiting for some V14 tungsten rod to come, so I’m gonna send this out for a sand blast and continue thinking on what finish I want on it (despite my very strong desire to whack the weights in, throw it on a shaft and feel the results lol)

 

in the meantime I’m really tossing up between a few different clubs for the next one…. Will likely all come down to what I get for a decent price but I’d really like the challenge of a BeCu, mainly as it’s machine only, can’t sand it can’t polish have to have my tolerances spot on otherwise I poison myself

 

oh milling didn’t really change the weight so still 352 

 

also shoutout to @golfluvzme for some really handy milling depths information, I really appreciate it mate!

Edited July 15, 2022 by MachineHack

[MachineHack]

I couldn’t help myself I taped the weights in and ram rodded the old shaft and grip back on 

 

I’m in love, this is the new gamer it’s so good and it’s not even set 

 

 

Edited July 15, 2022 by MachineHack

[ThomasfromScarboro]

Wow. Just found this thread. Great work, MachineHack. Love the tinkering, and that you get to remember your grandfather when you do it. Putters look great!

[Motoboss]

4 hours ago, MachineHack said:

I couldn’t help myself I taped the weights in and ram rodded the old shaft and grip back on 

 

I’m in love, this is the new gamer it’s so good and it’s not even set 

 

 

 

Have to agree, it’s the best “classic” yet. Very well done!

[MachineHack]

Well I couldn’t be bother waiting for the tungsten copper rod to come in some grab a stick of bronze and turned out a filler plug for the accidental hole.

 

set the weights, did the full blending linish (still needs the final hand sanding) and final weight has come down to 348 grams, which I’m pretty happy with. 
 

think I might try black oxide on it for the final finish.
 

 

[Motoboss]

Really interested in seeing the black. Maybe even a lighter color like the “Oyster”  finish Ping is using would keep the highlights and make the face milling pop.

[MachineHack]

Well waiting on tungsten still. Moving away from the pine wood derby weights, even tho they’re really cheap, just too constrained on size with them. 
 

but I did pickup a couple new projects today for the tungsten! 
 

lefty anser, this one I’m excited for, think my removable weights idea is gonna work. 3/4” tungsten rod on the way should be able to do a single removable weight on each end, so can change head weights for green speeds. It’s for my father in law for Australian Father’s Day (yah totally threw me off when I first moved here) here’s hoping he actually likes it 
 

pal 2 in stainless 🤷‍♂️. Need to pull the head and weigh it first, feels decently heavy on its own. Might end up selling this one after I’m done, I didn’t really intend on buying it but got a good enough price on it. 
 

I also got a TPM9 coming

[Motoboss]

You know your FIL will keep it, just because it was made for him,

 

Nice jester.👍

 

 

 

 

Any update on the A4 color kote?

[MachineHack]

8 hours ago, Motoboss said:

You know your FIL will keep it, just because it was made for him,

 

Nice jester.👍

 

 

 

 

Any update on the A4 color kote?

Balls in my court to finish sanding the a4 lol 

[MachineHack]

On 7/17/2022 at 8:51 PM, Motoboss said:

Really interested in seeing the black. Maybe even a lighter color like the “Oyster”  finish Ping is using would keep the highlights and make the face milling pop.

 You might end up waiting awhile for the results now @Motoboss I got invited to play a local club I haven’t been able to play yet so I’m prolly just gonna throw a quick polish on it, glue it back on the shaft and make it the gamer lol 

 

but the pal 2’s 80w20cu showed up today so I drew up the design for this one (old school hand milling calls for old school hand drawn on graphing paper) mainly cuz I wanna buy more tungsten and the wife is getting upset so this one needs to get done to sell and feed the project list. 

 

For something a bit different, gonna slot them in the face this time. Also the pals are quite a bit narrower and I was having a hard time stacking the weights on the sole and balancing them (toe has so much extra area compared to the heel) 

 

350g is locked in tho, gonna try an offset fly mill on this should be fun, stay tuned for this weekend when I actually work on it lol 

[Motoboss]

4 hours ago, MachineHack said:

 You might end up waiting awhile for the results now @Motoboss I got invited to play a local club I haven’t been able to play yet so I’m prolly just gonna throw a quick polish on it, glue it back on the shaft and make it the gamer lol 

 

Gotta have priorities! Play well.

[kmay__]

I picked up a Pal 2 once just to steal the over hosel shaft for a head I had made, still have the Ping head on my shelf, man its long heel to toe eh? Just looks huge behind the ball lol.  

[MachineHack]

10 hours ago, kmay__ said:

I picked up a Pal 2 once just to steal the over hosel shaft for a head I had made, still have the Ping head on my shelf, man its long heel to toe eh? Just looks huge behind the ball lol.  

I was surprised measuring it was only 8mm longer then the anser 4. So it’s not really that longer, I think it’s the combo of narrower and longer that makes it visually look heaps longer than the Ansers. 
 

the pal 6 now that’s a long boi 

 

also I don’t blame you for stealing the shaft, they’re super cool stepless I really like them.

Edited July 25, 2022 by MachineHack

[MachineHack]

Throw a “good enough for the girls I date” polish on the a4 and whacked the shaft on and a new Ping grip 

 

I forgot how much I hate polishing stainless, especially this 400 series. I don’t think I’ll do another stainless with these smaller weights or if I did I wouldn’t linish it, I’d chamfer the edges of the pockets and face the weights on the lathe and just leave them recessed a bit. Def not going to linish the pal 2, prolly won’t chamfer the inserts tho because I am going to face mill it after I put the inserts in the face and want a flush finish.
 

gonna try and get some practice holes in wed afternoon now that we’ve had some sunshine and the courses are open again, might paint fill  the pingman and logo before that 

 

im actually really digging the rusted shaft too it’s got such fun character 

Edited July 30, 2022 by MachineHack

[McStagger]

That Anser 4 looks great! I will definitely be checking back in on this thread to see what you do next.

 

Whereabouts in Aus are you? 

[MachineHack]

50 minutes ago, McStagger said:

That Anser 4 looks great! I will definitely be checking back in on this thread to see what you do next.

 

Whereabouts in Aus are you? 

I’m in Sydney, you in Australia as well? 

[McStagger]

25 minutes ago, MachineHack said:

I’m in Sydney, you in Australia as well? 

Yep, just up the road in Newcastle.

[MachineHack]

Been waiting on tungsten for awhile finally showed up today. 
 

but I did fire up the lathe last weekend to make the prototype. Now to test out how good my carbide tooling is…. This post may age poorly depending on results hah, gotta turn this rod of tungsten into two weights 

 

unfortunately won’t get to it this weekend so I’ll leave you all waiting for the results 

[MachineHack]

Well after some vacation time and then some sick time I finally make some chips (a lot) today.

 

I’ve had a desire to make a removable weight version for awhile, mainly for the challenge and this was quite a challenge but so far so good (the parting blade is taking a beating lol) Toe weight is complete, next weekend I’ll jump on the heel weight.

 

final weight should be 345-347, I can add some more base weight if necessary if the father in law wants it slightly heavier but 350 was the goal see how ocd I get.

 

anyways picture time 

[Motoboss]

That is absolutely sweet. I think your on the right track with adjustable weighting. I like the design as well as it looks like a plug of lighter (aluminum), heavier or even plastic could be very easily used. Does the slug just have a hole drilled through it with the counter sunk screw?

 

Whatcha going to do for the face, milled or plain?

[MachineHack]

6 hours ago, Motoboss said:

That is absolutely sweet. I think your on the right track with adjustable weighting. I like the design as well as it looks like a plug of lighter (aluminum), heavier or even plastic could be very easily used. Does the slug just have a hole drilled through it with the counter sunk screw?

 

Whatcha going to do for the face, milled or plain?

yah can’t tap a blind hole so I just pressed in that threaded plug

 

face milled as well