Black Gold vs. Project X

[Sakman]

Let's see how this pans out...

[KingOAces]

I have personally owned the Black Gold's, but have tried the Project X's. I think the Project X's have better feel and resposivenes and are an overall better shaft.

 

KinG

[jdtoyou]

Black Gold. Same performance as PX but with much better feel. I have played both.

[bjackson]

i hit the black golds straight up in the air, and that was with nike blades. hit miura blades and x tours with project X much better. PX all the way!!!

[grsgolf]

Black Gold- weight sorted and frequency sorted

 

vs.

 

Project X- only weight sorted. They are not frequency sorted like the rest of the Rifles were.

 

Keep in mind Royal Precision doesn't exist anymore and TT owns the intellectual property. Should be an interesting winter in the golf shaft business.

 

I'll take the BGs.

[Twiggy]

Have played both and I prefer the Black Gold. The PX just seemed to lack feel. The BG have a higher ball flight (not ballooning, just slightly higher) and gave me better control.

[federerfan23]

i have played both of these and honestly always go back to my s-300's. i dont know why everyone loves these two shafts so much as opposed to just regular tt dg's. what am i missing?? I am a 6 handicap and play bridgestone cb's.

[sheppy335]

PX all the way

 

I thought TT said they will keep both Brands because both have there followers

[bobcat]

Unfortunately, the PX shaft from TT is an unknown entity right now. From what I understand the PX is an extremely complex shaft to manufacture and had a very high cull rate even when Royal Precision was producing them and it was RP who designed the PX shaft AND developed the special manufacring process to produce them at their (now closed) Connecticutt Plant..

 

It is therefore likely TT will need some time to figure out how to properly produce these shafts in volume. Oddly enough, my understand is that TT chose NOT to hire any former RP Manufacturing Personnel not will it use any of RP's PX manufacturing equipment. It almost sounds like TT is starting from scratch and simply trying to reverse engineer the PX shaft. It will be interesting to see just how long that will take and how the early TT PX shafts compare to the originals from RP. Furthermore, TT says they plan to offer many of the other popular Rifle shafts too, including Rifle standard and Flighted versions and even the "Spinner" Wedge shafts. All that indicates a signicant amount of manufacturing ramp-up time.

 

In the meantime, full sets of the popular PX are very already tough to find, (especially taper tips). I wish TT well, because I love the PX and sincerely hope TT's version will measure up to the original PX shaft.

 

Thank goodness, I acquired a few extra sets of RP-produced taper tip PX 5.5's before they were all gone...so glad I did...

[bbastin]

I tried the Black Golds with my nike blades...Spin rate with black golds was around 8500 -> rifles 6200 with a 6-iron. Nice high ball flight with the Black Golds but a little baloony....any wind in your face and might as well try to blade it to the pin.

[Putt4doh]

Played/demo'd both and ended up with the BG's...

 

In the correct flex the BG's outfeel and outperform the PX's. They're smoother, more accurate and just as long. Ball flight was similiar in both, but given the feel, frequency matching, and accuracy of the BG's; they're winner hands down.

[Awalkspoiled]

I've found the BG to be smoother, with similar ballflight, and somewhat more consistency within the set. PX are good for weight, but the frequencies are just all over the place - in my playing set the 6i shaft is stiffer than the 7i shaft. The funny thing is that it doesn't seem to harm the playability much. Contrary to expectations, the BG aren't as easy to build with as I'd expected from a TT shaft. I recently blueprinted a set for a good player, and found that in creating a perfect frequency-matched set very few of the shafts wound up being trimmed as per standard spec. I myself play softstepped PX 5.5, with a 5i ss around 90, and if I played BG I'd soften the Stiffs up on those as well - both shafts are stable enough that they can be played softer than you'd think.

[mhccap]

i have been a DG X100 guy for years but am very curious about both of these shafts...i did venture off into rifle land about 4 or 5 years ago with a set...thought they were a tad baloony...which one will i like better? pros vs cons?

[mhccap]

anyone?

[enterprise920]

been playing S300s for 15 years. Ive tried every other iron shaft on the market and hate them all.

[bamapro]

This depends too much on angle of attack, how you load the club, and tempo. Did anyone notice how both shafts hit the ball high or low with more spin and less spin? I like them both. X100 for me with BG and PX tied for 2nd.

[classick]

100% Black Golds because of the feel they offer. You may need to get fitted for a flex though because I thought they were a little stiffer than any other shaft I've used. I ended up going with the Stiff instead of X-stiff...oh and they look sweet too

[choeppner]

I've had irons with the BG shafts and irons with the PX Shaft. I now play the PX 6.5 Shafts and I love them. Great launching shafts, easy to control, very responsive.

[drpino]

i'll take my PX stix over my BG stix if i had to make a choice but i hesitate to give a fair comparison of the two since i've only played them in two different iron sets. i do feel like my PX 5.5s are smoother than my BG stiffs though which bucks the usual trend.

[golfer_junior]

PX, lower and more controllable ball flight is worth more to me than a softer feel.

[tmac7592]

callaway has the px in there new x tours, x 20 and x 20 tours so are those shafts tt or rp

 

one differencve is that it says flighted on the shafts for callaway where on the other pxs it doesnt say flighted

[johnnystick77]

This thread is too close to stop the voting now.

 

BUMP

[bopper53]

Love the Project X shafts.

 

I have heard some rumblings that TT is trying to close them out for good, better stock up.

[TrueTemper]

Love the Project X shafts.

 

I have heard some rumblings that TT is trying to close them out for good, better stock up.

 

 

Project X is not going away! We are introducing a Flighted Version for 2007 and as someone mentioned it will be the stock shaft in the new Callaway clubs. The PX family will only only get bigger in the years to come.

[TM golf guy]

I played both, and I can honestly say that the Project X shafts are much better FOR ME.

[primo]

I've owned both, I hated the project X from Day 1. I've been a DG X-100 player for years before experimenting with iron shafts. IMHO the Nippon Steel is much better than PX, I found the PX feeling like an absolute board with no kick. The ball flight was nice, but I could never get used to the feel. Felt like I was going to break my wrist or something with every shot. especially felt it a lot when playing off hard ground like Bandon Oregon.

On the other hand, the BG in S flex is really the perfect fit for me. I don't know that it's much softer than my old x-1's. Definitely has more feel and a great kick. the ballflight is very similar to the X-1, but feel and dispersion is much more consistant. Overall, I've been able to play much more consistant with an easier swing.

[Sakman]

Overall, I've been able to play much more consistant with an easier swing. - - Black Gold

 

I couldn't agree with you more.

[nevermind92]

I voted for Project X myself having hit both in the same model irons head, however, I think an interesting question is why does Project X work fantastic for guys like myself and terrible for someone else ? There must be a common denominator. I myself have an average tempo and build up power slowly. I get under plane sometimes which results in a hook. Maybe guys who start strong from the top are the guys feeling the PX to be harsh ? :)

[Sakman]

Lots of discussion about these two shafts lately so lets get this thread rolling again...

[lbhitter]

Very disappointed in the new Project X by TT. Purchased a set of PX5.5s from Golfworks and installed them in a set of MP60s. The 38" 5 iron spec'ed out on the frequency meter at 328cpms with a 5 inch clamp -- expected about 317cpms.

 

OK, these are butt stiff. So I popped in a 2.5" clamp and the 5 iron specs out at 307cpms. A rifle 5.5 equivalent would flex out at about 298cpms. That is a 9cpm difference or almost one full flex. So these PX5.5s spec out at just shy of a 6.5 equivalent.

 

Very disappointed.

 

LB