too much spin on my G10!

[rkristopheranderson]

How about some bargain shaft advice?

So, here's the deal:

I've got a 10.5 degree Ping G10 with a stiff Proforce Blue shaft with a "mid-kick" behavior (cut to 44.5 inches) . . . I LOVE the hang time I'm getting, but the sucker spins more than I like. When I'm "on" (mid-June to mid-August), its great--but once I'm off a bit (the rest of the year) it spins a bit out of control.

Any advice--is the key to go to a lower kick shaft? Any advice on bargain-prices shaft options? Maybe something that is a few years old?

[jaskanski]

I wouldn't exactly call the Axivcore Blue "Mid-kick" - it's more like low-kick. The actual flexible tip section of the shaft is designed to give a high initial launch with higher spin for maximum carry. The key to to your dilemma could well be the oposite of your thinking - a lower kick shaft is what you have at the moment. What you probably require is a shaft with a [i]higher kickpoint.[/i] Axivcore Black or Red would be a better option, or if you're looking for something even cheaper, the good old UST V2 still does the job.

Here's a launch/spin chart for UST shafts:


[url="http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf"]http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf[/url]

[rkristopheranderson]

Yeah--the V2 is good deal these days, and I've hit it before and trust it more than something I've not hit before [my budget being what it is, and not being anywhere near a bigbox-style golf store, I can't tinker].


I wonder if shortening the shaft might have something to do with affecting how much it spins the ball?

[quote name='jaskanski' timestamp='1321293947' post='3799345']
I wouldn't exactly call the Axivcore Blue "Mid-kick" - it's more like low-kick. The actual flexible tip section of the shaft is designed to give a high initial launch with higher spin for maximum carry. The key to to your dilemma could well be the oposite of your thinking - a lower kick shaft is what you have at the moment. What you probably require is a shaft with a [i]higher kickpoint.[/i] Axivcore Black or Red would be a better option, or if you're looking for something even cheaper, the good old UST V2 still does the job.

Here's a launch/spin chart for UST shafts:


[url="http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf"]http://www.ustmamiya...Launch_Spin.pdf[/url]
[/quote]

[rkristopheranderson]

Any thoughts? Does shortining one's driver shaft contribute to spinning the ball or no?

[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1321370183' post='3803191']
Yeah--the V2 is good deal these days, and I've hit it before and trust it more than something I've not hit before [my budget being what it is, and not being anywhere near a bigbox-style golf store, I can't tinker].


I wonder if shortening the shaft might have something to do with affecting how much it spins the ball?

[quote name='jaskanski' timestamp='1321293947' post='3799345']
I wouldn't exactly call the Axivcore Blue "Mid-kick" - it's more like low-kick. The actual flexible tip section of the shaft is designed to give a high initial launch with higher spin for maximum carry. The key to to your dilemma could well be the oposite of your thinking - a lower kick shaft is what you have at the moment. What you probably require is a shaft with a [i]higher kickpoint.[/i] Axivcore Black or Red would be a better option, or if you're looking for something even cheaper, the good old UST V2 still does the job.

Here's a launch/spin chart for UST shafts:


[url="http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf"]http://www.ustmamiya...Launch_Spin.pdf[/url]
[/quote]
[/quote]

[Vintage1976]

[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1323273906' post='3905035']
Any thoughts? [b][i]Does shortining one's driver shaft contribute to spinning the ball[/i][/b] or no?
[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1321370183' post='3803191']
Yeah--the V2 is good deal these days, and I've hit it before and trust it more than something I've not hit before [my budget being what it is, and not being anywhere near a bigbox-style golf store, I can't tinker].
I wonder if shortening the shaft might have something to do with affecting how much it spins the ball?
[quote name='jaskanski' timestamp='1321293947' post='3799345']
I wouldn't exactly call the Axivcore Blue "Mid-kick" - it's more like low-kick. The actual flexible tip section of the shaft is designed to give a high initial launch with higher spin for maximum carry. The key to to your dilemma could well be the oposite of your thinking - a lower kick shaft is what you have at the moment. What you probably require is a shaft with a [i]higher kickpoint.[/i] Axivcore Black or Red would be a better option, or if you're looking for something even cheaper, the good old UST V2 still does the job.
Here's a launch/spin chart for UST shafts:
[url="http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf"]http://www.ustmamiya...Launch_Spin.pdf[/url]
[/quote]
[/quote]
[/quote]
Well, in a vacuum yes it probably would, even if only by influencing the golfer to move the swing plane a touch more upright. However, there are so many real-world factors that I'd have a hard time coming to that conclusion myself.

The Axiv Blue is not a bad shaft, just higher spin. You can get an HMOI V2, or a V2 66 pull for around $30 almost any day on ebay. The Axiv Tour Black has gotten a lot of support as being high launch and reasonably low spin. As a cost issue only, pulls are usually a good bet. There are a lot of Accra shafts available right now (decendant of the Axiv Proforce line) or even a VS Proto or NV would do the job and they're cheap now too.

[rkristopheranderson]

I certainly don't play in a vacuum.

In the end, I went to one of my backup drivers--a original Ping rapture with 9 deg.--had the stiff Aldila VS Proto ByYou shaft pulled out and put in the G10. Kinda hurt because that was a good set up for windy days, but there a great club shop up in the Southern Pines/Aberdeen/Pinehurst area--Robert's--and Bob up there is a pro. He pulled it and stuck it in the G10 and I've been getting some good results--more stable, much less spin. We'll see if I pick up a few yards next summer when I play more and my swings in better shape.


[quote name='heavybladed' timestamp='1323330371' post='3909541']
[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1323273906' post='3905035']
Any thoughts? [b][i]Does shortining one's driver shaft contribute to spinning the ball[/i][/b] or no?
[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1321370183' post='3803191']
Yeah--the V2 is good deal these days, and I've hit it before and trust it more than something I've not hit before [my budget being what it is, and not being anywhere near a bigbox-style golf store, I can't tinker].
I wonder if shortening the shaft might have something to do with affecting how much it spins the ball?
[quote name='jaskanski' timestamp='1321293947' post='3799345']
I wouldn't exactly call the Axivcore Blue "Mid-kick" - it's more like low-kick. The actual flexible tip section of the shaft is designed to give a high initial launch with higher spin for maximum carry. The key to to your dilemma could well be the oposite of your thinking - a lower kick shaft is what you have at the moment. What you probably require is a shaft with a [i]higher kickpoint.[/i] Axivcore Black or Red would be a better option, or if you're looking for something even cheaper, the good old UST V2 still does the job.
Here's a launch/spin chart for UST shafts:
[url="http://www.ustmamiya.com/docs/Charts_Launch_Spin.pdf"]http://www.ustmamiya...Launch_Spin.pdf[/url]
[/quote]
[/quote]
[/quote]
Well, in a vacuum yes it probably would, even if only by influencing the golfer to move the swing plane a touch more upright. However, there are so many real-world factors that I'd have a hard time coming to that conclusion myself.

The Axiv Blue is not a bad shaft, just higher spin. You can get an HMOI V2, or a V2 66 pull for around $30 almost any day on ebay. The Axiv Tour Black has gotten a lot of support as being high launch and reasonably low spin. As a cost issue only, pulls are usually a good bet. There are a lot of Accra shafts available right now (decendant of the Axiv Proforce line) or even a VS Proto or NV would do the job and they're cheap now too.
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[Vintage1976]

[quote name='rkristopheranderson' timestamp='1324656563' post='3979859']
I certainly don't play in a vacuum.

In the end, I went to one of my backup drivers--a original Ping rapture with 9 deg.--had the stiff Aldila VS Proto ByYou shaft pulled out and put in the G10. Kinda hurt because that was a good set up for windy days, but there a great club shop up in the Southern Pines/Aberdeen/Pinehurst area--Robert's--and Bob up there is a pro. He pulled it and stuck it in the G10 and I've been getting some good results--more stable, much less spin. We'll see if I pick up a few yards next summer when I play more and my swings in better shape.

[/quote]

Always good to hear positive results, glad you found something that has helped.

[smith7200]

I played the G10 w/ Grafalloy Red before being fitted and I liked it. Just by swapping club heads to the R11s dropped my spin rate ~1000 rpm. Ended up with the Motore 6.0 shaft as well.

FIR's went from 45% to 65%

[pencilwhipper]

get a half lower degree driver..

[rockinar]

Drivers don't spin one season and not the next. Your swing is causing the spin, not the club.

[rkristopheranderson]

[quote name='rockinar' timestamp='1348458582' post='5683771']
Drivers don't spin one season and not the next. Your swing is causing the spin, not the club.
[/quote]

Yeah, that WAS something I said about myself in the original post, wasn't it . . . my question about shafts regarded whether or not it was possible to lessen the mistakes with a shaft chnage.

[OSKARJONES]

If you want to stick with the G10 head you might want to try one with a Blueboard shaft. I have a 9* that spins 2400-2600 rpm. SS is 95-100 ...