Bought my first scotty...

[Hanzbrix]

Now am I a fool for playing it?

I picked up my first Scotty last night:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=120073863823

In case you're wondering, this had nothing to do with Tadd's showing in Hawaii last week, I didn't even know he was using a center shaft until I went looking. What really happened is I was looking at everyone else's scotty's and said to my self "I wonder if they ever made a... " and I went looking and sure enough I found this one example of EXACTLY what I wanted, right down to the stamps.

Only problem is, now I'm wondering if I'd be a fool to actually put this thing into play. I would, of course, take lovingly good care of it; but is it going to significantly change it's long term value? I guess I don't really know how rare or desirable this thing really is or what kind of appreciation I might expect to experience if I just hung it on the wall and giggled at it for the next 5-10 years.

Now, I did buy the thing to play, not as some sort of get rich quick scheme. I have a JOB to make money, golf is how I SPEND my money. But I'd also rather not turn a $850 putter into a $150 putter over the course of a season.

Also, any advise on caring for it? How tough is the triple black finish? Do I need to keep a constant lookout for rust or will some regular maint (oil once every 3 months or something like that) pretty much do it?

Now I just need to find a headcover...

[jcigars]

That's a great putter and if your happy that's all that matters :drinks: I'd say play it.

 

Jimmy

[SheriffBooth]

I'd say spend a while indoors with it to make sure you like the way it rolls, and if you like it then by all means take it to the course and enjoy it. In my book, half the pride in ownership comes with making your friends jealous :drinks: . If you're careful, it wont get dinged up, and the Custom Shop will always clean it up for you at the end of your run of using it. Congrats on your purchase and I say have fun with it.

[Imago-Dei]

sweet putter bro!!!! i would play it but then again, im not sure about "resale" on that style. my question to you is.... would you really sell your "first ever" scotty cameron? i know i would'nt....

[johndeere10]

Sorry to be all bad news......Its an aftermarket finish on the putter.... Did you get a good deal???? As long as you are happy with the price of your purchase.

 

No headcover also??

 

The finish might turn chalky due to it being a stainless putter and finishes don't hold up too well on stainless putters.

 

 

Great putter but.......

[SwingMan]

You spent that much without a COA??

 

You could have bought a Newport Beach used and sent it to Slighter to do the same thing.

 

In fact, the first thought that came to mind when I didn't see a COA in the description is that it was a Sligher Refinish.

 

I don't believe in a putter doing nothing in a house -- use it.

 

But if it doesn't have a COA or is not a putter done by Scotty, I'd put it back on ebay and get your money back. Or if you find it is not a Scotty, get your money back.

 

I'd get details on the putter. Try the Cameron Site. Never buy a high priced Cameron without checking with the Cameron Techies.

[edwelly]

I would play it. However, I would keep a back up putter with me in case the greens have fertilizer or some weed killer stuff on them. The is the only think I have found that will tear up a putter no matter how clean you keep it. I found out the hard way :drinks:

[banistr]

Paid $200 too much for that putter IMO, especially without the original headcover (which usually brings in over $100 by itself). But if it's what you wanted than it doesnt matter what it cost. I am the same way..if I want it, and its my money, than I pull the trigger. I would however do the following:

 

1) If your going to game it, I would not worry about spending another $100+ on the Prototype headcover, because it screams "STEAL ME". Put a old headcover on it and be at peace when your in the clubhouse getting that coke at the turn.

 

2) If you game it and decide to put it up later send it back to Kevin Colbert for refinishing. (he probably was the one that put the oxide finish on this one). It is pretty durable..just dont put it up wet and you should be fine.

 

3) Enjoy it!

[Hanzbrix]

Ok, I was pretty sure I'd over-paid for it but like I said, it was exactly what I wanted. I was wondering if the finish was original because everything I'd seen about Center-shafts showed just a stainless finish but I really do like the black. Not coming with the original headcover was also a bit of a tip-off that it wasn't gonna be especially collectible.

 

I guess I'll give it a roll in the house for a while and if i'm still in love with it then it'll find a place in my bag. If not I'll either hang it on the wall and admire it or put it back on ebay and try to get (at least most) of my money back.

[johndeere10]

It finish is AFTERMARKET not original!!!!

[drewspin]

Since it's not really a collector's item, PLAY IT! \

 

Use a head-cover and you can always have the finish redone later.

[banistr]

The finish is after market. There was one on here for sale two days ago for $425 in great condition and it came with a studio stainless circle T headcover. If anything the finish on that club would lesson the value of it because its a "Prototype" putter unless it was done by Cameron with a COA. But like I said before...If its what you wanted, than so be it.

[t_m_harris]

That putter is incredible, way to go!

That is weak a headcover didnt come with it but oh well.

I got my first Cameron at the end of last year and now am wavering on should I play it or not.

My Circa '62 #3 tour is pretty light and it feels a little off balance taking it back.

For now ive decided to keep practicing with it and see how it goes once the weather warms.

 

Just get a feel for it and you'll know.

[scar1900]

As far as the play it or save it question, I'm of the opinion that clubs are "tools not jewels" (except of course if I had something like the putter that Palmer used to win the Open with). Go out and enjoy your putter!

[jimmyjames]

It finish is AFTERMARKET not original!!!!

 

 

Who cares it looks great. I say play it! That putter is just to sweet to be sitting around the house or office.

[RobotDoctor]

This looks like a refinish from Black Oxide Services. Sorry about being taken from a seller that probably knew the history. IMO, this is fraud.

 

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[DaveyH]

Great Putter! :drinks: wish i had the cash :)

[RobotDoctor]

I would contact PayPal and Ebay and note this putter is a fraud and get your money back. Do not delay.

[SwingMan]

Ok, I was pretty sure I'd over-paid for it but like I said, it was exactly what I wanted. I was wondering if the finish was original because everything I'd seen about Center-shafts showed just a stainless finish but I really do like the black. Not coming with the original headcover was also a bit of a tip-off that it wasn't gonna be especially collectible.

 

I guess I'll give it a roll in the house for a while and if i'm still in love with it then it'll find a place in my bag. If not I'll either hang it on the wall and admire it or put it back on ebay and try to get (at least most) of my money back.

 

Don't hang it on the wall -- it's not a collector's item. When you're done, sell it and get another putter -- Scotty or whatever fits your stroke.

 

Care?

 

Keep it away from damp headcovers, clean it immediately after using it with a damp cloth and dry it. Rinse it with tour water and dry it immediately at home. Try a little baby oil or gun oil on it. Put baby oil in your headcover.

 

As to headcover, don't buy a Scotty -- it screams steal me! - lots of headcover people on this site. Just yesteday there must have been 3 threads on covers. good grief.

[RobotDoctor]

Great Putter! :drinks: wish i had the cash :)

 

There is nothing great about a fraudulent putter. If throwing $400 down the toilet is great ......

[MikeJohnson]

Hanzbrix,

I would contact the seller and paypal immediately. Tell the seller what you now know about the putter and get your money back. You wouldnt be able to sell that putter for more than $450 today......if that. GET YOUR MONEY BACK!

Mike

[drewspin]

Ok, I was pretty sure I'd over-paid for it but like I said, it was exactly what I wanted. I was wondering if the finish was original because everything I'd seen about Center-shafts showed just a stainless finish but I really do like the black. Not coming with the original headcover was also a bit of a tip-off that it wasn't gonna be especially collectible.

 

I guess I'll give it a roll in the house for a while and if i'm still in love with it then it'll find a place in my bag. If not I'll either hang it on the wall and admire it or put it back on ebay and try to get (at least most) of my money back.

 

Don't hang it on the wall -- it's not a collector's item. When you're done, sell it and get another putter -- Scotty or whatever fits your stroke.

 

Care?

 

Keep it away from damp headcovers, clean it immediately after using it with a damp cloth and dry it. Rinse it with tour water and dry it immediately at home. Try a little baby oil or gun oil on it. Put baby oil in your headcover.

 

As to headcover, don't buy a Scotty -- it screams steal me! - lots of headcover people on this site. Just yesteday there must have been 3 threads on covers. good grief.

 

C'mon SwingMan - I know you want that coconutless hula dancer for only $1K.

[Hanzbrix]

Well I sent the seller a note explaining your concerns and asking for a COA number and/or explanation of the "100% new and perfect Scotty" claim. We'll see where that goes, I guess.

 

I still like the putter, but as you say I don't want to throw $400 down the toilet just because someone claimed in the auction that it was a scotty. Overpaying by a couple hundred because Tadd made center shafts hot is one thing, dropping $400 on a fraud is another.

[TigerStrong]

It's a putter use it. Thats what there made for. Have fun with your new toys. :drinks:

BTW please get your money back. He owes you about $350-$400 in return.

[SwingMan]

Ok, I was pretty sure I'd over-paid for it but like I said, it was exactly what I wanted. I was wondering if the finish was original because everything I'd seen about Center-shafts showed just a stainless finish but I really do like the black. Not coming with the original headcover was also a bit of a tip-off that it wasn't gonna be especially collectible.

 

I guess I'll give it a roll in the house for a while and if i'm still in love with it then it'll find a place in my bag. If not I'll either hang it on the wall and admire it or put it back on ebay and try to get (at least most) of my money back.

 

Don't hang it on the wall -- it's not a collector's item. When you're done, sell it and get another putter -- Scotty or whatever fits your stroke.

 

Care?

 

Keep it away from damp headcovers, clean it immediately after using it with a damp cloth and dry it. Rinse it with tour water and dry it immediately at home. Try a little baby oil or gun oil on it. Put baby oil in your headcover.

 

As to headcover, don't buy a Scotty -- it screams steal me! - lots of headcover people on this site. Just yesteday there must have been 3 threads on covers. good grief.

 

C'mon SwingMan - I know you want that coconutless hula dancer for only $1K.

 

I admit it -- you're right.

 

But I did ring up the bidding on that UK guy who bought the Scotty Headcover last year for $2,300. I just couldn't go $ 2,305.

 

:drinks:

 

 

 

Actually, I once had the itch and made a bid for a Hula Girl for $67 :) I was out of my mind to even bid on a headcover. Of course, it went for $120.

 

If I want to collect covers, I'll try David Mills Covers. When I buy one of his putters, I get a cover. That's about as close to collecting covers as I'll come.

[banistr]

Great Putter! :drinks: wish i had the cash :)

 

There is nothing great about a fraudulent putter. If throwing $400 down the toilet is great ......

 

 

 

 

 

Now Im confussed...How can you guys blame the seller and state the he sold a fraudulent putter? The auction clearly states that its triple oxide and new paint fill. IMO the buyer should have know what this was worth. The buyer wanted and paid the premium for it. Contacting Paypal and Ebay for what???

 

"Umm..can I please have my money back..I didnt realize that I was paying waaaay too much for this when I hit the "I agree to buy"(for the stated price) button." Dont think they will go for it.

[Caligula]

The claim for it being brand new is somewhat dubious but if it hasn't hit a golf ball it is brand new. It's not as if it's a copy or has fake tour stamps all over it. Looks a nice putter to me!

[SwingMan]

Great Putter! :drinks: wish i had the cash :)

 

There is nothing great about a fraudulent putter. If throwing $400 down the toilet is great ......

 

 

Now Im confussed...How can you guys blame the seller and state the he sold a fraudulent putter? The auction clearly states that its triple oxide and new paint fill. IMO the buyer should have know what this was worth. The buyer wanted and paid the premium for it. Contacting Paypal and Ebay for what???

 

"Umm..can I please have my money back..I didnt realize that I was paying waaaay too much for this when I hit the "I agree to buy"(for the stated price) button." Dont think they will go for it.

 

 

I think you're wrong here -- the guy represents the Putter as 100% Scotty Cameron work.

 

Brand New And 100 % Perfect Scotty Cameron Titleist 2004 Newport 2 Beach Center Shaft PROTOTYPE Putter. This Is The Scotty Putter That Was Never Made As A Production Model So Very Rare. This Treasure Is Triple Black ( Antiglare ) With Killer Paint Fill. The Bright White Highlights Titleist And Newport 2 Beach Center Shaft. Prototype Is In Yellow And Of Course The Famous Scotty Crown Is Also In Yellow. The NP 2 Beach Has The Bright White Sight Line To Line You Up To Your Intended Target. A Lot Of Thought Went Into This Proto And It Shows !! Newport Beach Sound Slot. 35 Inches And 330 Grams. The Scotty Cameron Red Studio Grip And Correct Factory Shaft Band. No Headcover.

 

I think our buyer has a case -- a good and valid case for a refund if it is indeed not 100% Scotty work. He also says it is brand new, which implies that no outside work was done. Look at the description - no where does he states that any part of the putter is not original Scotty - he describes the paint job and then says A Lot Of Thought Went Into This Proto And It Shows !!, again implying that Scotty did all the work --

 

If it was not a Scotty original finish, he should state, "a lot of work went into this refinish and it shows!" Then he should have stated who did the refinish and whether he rolled balls with it outside or whether he bought it new and immediately sent it out for the triple black.

 

As I stated, a valid case for a refund if our buyer finds the seller is fraudulent in his description.

[Beavs17]

I agree with Swing....it was described as brand new, which implies it is 100% original.

[banistr]

Great Putter! :drinks: wish i had the cash :)

 

There is nothing great about a fraudulent putter. If throwing $400 down the toilet is great ......

 

 

Now Im confussed...How can you guys blame the seller and state the he sold a fraudulent putter? The auction clearly states that its triple oxide and new paint fill. IMO the buyer should have know what this was worth. The buyer wanted and paid the premium for it. Contacting Paypal and Ebay for what???

 

"Umm..can I please have my money back..I didnt realize that I was paying waaaay too much for this when I hit the "I agree to buy"(for the stated price) button." Dont think they will go for it.

 

 

 

 

 

I think you're wrong here -- the guy represents the Putter as 100% Scotty Cameron work.

 

Brand New And 100 % Perfect Scotty Cameron Titleist 2004 Newport 2 Beach Center Shaft PROTOTYPE Putter. This Is The Scotty Putter That Was Never Made As A Production Model So Very Rare. This Treasure Is Triple Black ( Antiglare ) With Killer Paint Fill. The Bright White Highlights Titleist And Newport 2 Beach Center Shaft. Prototype Is In Yellow And Of Course The Famous Scotty Crown Is Also In Yellow. The NP 2 Beach Has The Bright White Sight Line To Line You Up To Your Intended Target. A Lot Of Thought Went Into This Proto And It Shows !! Newport Beach Sound Slot. 35 Inches And 330 Grams. The Scotty Cameron Red Studio Grip And Correct Factory Shaft Band. No Headcover.

 

I think our buyer has a case -- a good and valid case for a refund if it is indeed not 100% Scotty work. He also says it is brand new, which implies that no outside work was done.

 

As I stated, a valid case for a refund if our buyer finds the seller is fraudulent in his description.

 

 

 

Someone please underline where it states "WORK DONE BY SCOTTY" and just FYI, I send putters off all the time that are "BRAND NEW" to get oxided or platinum finishes put on them.