Similar hybrid/iron shafts to hzrdus black 105x

Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.



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  • GMR2ironGMR2iron Members Posts: 1,516 ✭✭
    I have used a Matrix Black Tie hm3 105, and currently use a Tensei Pro White 90. I would suggest both of these, and the Tensei comes in 100, if you prefer the heavier.
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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,099 ✭✭
    edited Jul 1, 2018 #3
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    endy wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.




    Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    Any reviews out there on recoil prototype utility shafts? 125 f5 sounds good
  • GMR2ironGMR2iron Members Posts: 1,516 ✭✭
    Rpete33 wrote:

    endy wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.




    Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it
    It is soft butt; have you tried the Black Tie?
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    GMR2iron wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:

    endy wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.




    Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it
    It is soft butt; have you tried the Black Tie?




    Only in a driver
  • ago33ago33 Members Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    I’ve got a Fuji pro 115 iron shaft coming in a few days. I’ll let you know how it is

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  • danielryanwdanielryanw Posts: 302 ✭✭
    Might want to check out the UST VTS Black.

    Can grab them at a decent price.

    S is 98g

    X is 100g
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  • MooJerseyMooJersey Posts: 428 ✭✭
    Rpete33 wrote:
    endy wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.




    Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it




    That’s what she said! OHHHHHH
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  • JasonicJasonic Gamer Banned Posts: 3,571 ✭✭
    MooJersey wrote:

    Rpete33 wrote:
    endy wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I have picked up a Nike vapor Fly Pro 2 iron, I want to put a graphite shaft in it that’s over 100g. I would like a project x hzrdus black 105 shaft but wills people is sold out, is there any other recommendations? Would a diamana thump hybrid play similar? Any other recommendations are welcomed! Play Kura kage XD 70tx in driver and rombax p95x in 3 wood.




    You would love the Tensei White 100. I got mine from Will a couple months back.




    Is it soft in the butt like the driver shaft? If so I won’t like it




    That’s what she said! OHHHHHH




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  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 825 ✭✭


    Might want to check out the UST VTS Black.

    Can grab them at a decent price.

    S is 98g

    X is 100g




    This is the shaft , In X Flex. It is stiffer than the TX flex in the butt.



    Comes in raw 42" length .370 parallel tip , and can be tipped a little extra

    before the taper to .355" and install. Will get the tip to the TX stiffness.



    This shaft is stout. Looking at the OP's signature , I would guess he would

    have the speed to make it work. I have used this shaft in hybrid builds for

    2 players with 120+ driver speeds. UST lists this shaft as mid / low....

    Trust me ..it plays low / low.... HZRDUS Black low....



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  • mizunoMP14mizunoMP14 IndianaMembers Posts: 615 ✭✭
    I have hit the HZRDUS 105 and it reminds me of a graphite version of a c taper.



    I have also played a VTS black 100 x and it is not close to the HZRDUS 105. The HZRDUS is much lower launch and stiffer.



    The matrix Hm3 black tie could work, there is a 105 XX flex that could give you same launch and spin.



    The thump is really not that low launching. its just really low torque and feels stiff. I have the bend profile image saved i will post up.
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  • mizunoMP14mizunoMP14 IndianaMembers Posts: 615 ✭✭
    This is the HZRDUS black bend profile, the super stiff mid section is pretty unique.



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  • KRW59KRW59 Hoarder Members Posts: 825 ✭✭
    edited Jul 3, 2018 #15
    mizunoMP14 wrote:


    I have hit the HZRDUS 105 and it reminds me of a graphite version of a c taper.



    I have also played a VTS black 100 x and it is not close to the HZRDUS 105. The HZRDUS is much lower launch and stiffer.



    The matrix Hm3 black tie could work, there is a 105 XX flex that could give you same launch and spin.



    The thump is really not that low launching. its just really low torque and feels stiff. I have the bend profile image saved i will post up.




    Both builds were for players swinging HZRDUS Black 75gram 6.5 flex tipped 1.0''

    in their drivers and C-Taper 130X in their irons. I used tour issue TM SLDR hybrid heads with the VTS black 100X HY shafts tipped 1.5".

    ....It worked ,for them....
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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    TEE EX9 25* / Attas 4U 7-X
    I have added about 10 grams of weight to all the fwy / hybrid
    shafts , using Sensicore inserts wrapped with lead tape.

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    Recoil 780 Es Smac wrap F3 / GW shaft internally weighted to 95 grams

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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    Thanks guys!
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    Just bought a 105 xx hm3 black tie for 22.5
  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range Sponsors Posts: 4,843 ✭✭
    edited Jul 3, 2018 #18
    Tensei Pro White 100. We stock them at all times as well. Significantly less butt soft feeling than the wood shafts.
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  • danielryanwdanielryanw Posts: 302 ✭✭
    TollBros wrote:


    Tensei Pro White 100. We stock them at all times as well. Significantly less butt soft feeling than the wood shafts.




    Agree with Tolls. I have a TPW I’m trying out in a 3w and the TPW 95tx I have in my 2udi is a much stouter overall feel. I was worried I went too light with the 95 but I read some older posts from Tolls and Gio that convinced me to go with the 95 for a driving iron and I’m glad I did.

    If it was going into a hybrid I would’ve went 105.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    I’m gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesn’t feel white I’ll give the tensei white a shot
  • GMR2ironGMR2iron Members Posts: 1,516 ✭✭
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I’m gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesn’t feel white I’ll give the tensei white a shot
    If its any help, I had a Mizuno MP-h4 2 iron with the hm3 105 Black Tie and thought it was the greatest ever; but tried a Titleist TMB 2 iron with the Pro White 90, and forgot all about the Mizuno/Black Tie combo. Put a Pro Orange in driver, from Black Tie, and a Pro Blue in 3 wood, from Red Tie, and couldn't be happier!
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    GMR2iron wrote:
    Rpete33 wrote:


    I’m gonna try the black tie for 20 bucks and if that doesn’t feel white I’ll give the tensei white a shot
    If its any help, I had a Mizuno MP-h4 2 iron with the hm3 105 Black Tie and thought it was the greatest ever; but tried a Titleist TMB 2 iron with the Pro White 90, and forgot all about the Mizuno/Black Tie combo. Put a Pro Orange in driver, from Black Tie, and a Pro Blue in 3 wood, from Red Tie, and couldn't be happier!




    Thanks for the input! Would love to put an orange in driver and blue in wood as well

  • warrio17warrio17 Posts: 369 ✭✭
    edited Jul 3, 2018 #23
    I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesn’t suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. I’m losing the ball both ways with the UST. It’s almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..



    Where did you fine the BLK TIE? I’ll need to find one to try.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    warrio17 wrote:
    I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesn’t suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. I’m losing the ball both ways with the UST. It’s almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..



    Where did you fine the BLK TIE? I’ll need to find one to try.




    Searched hm3 black tie xx and it was the first or second link that came up, 22.5 plus shipping
  • warrio17warrio17 Posts: 369 ✭✭
    Rpete33 wrote:

    warrio17 wrote:
    I just put in a UST prototype 110f5 into my tmag UDI 18*. It doesn’t suit my swing. I previously was using the C Taper Lite 115 and did hit it well, just wanted to find more distance. I’m losing the ball both ways with the UST. It’s almost as if the tip is a lot softer and not able to get into the proper position at impact. Just trailing some, if that makes sense..



    Where did you fine the BLK TIE? I’ll need to find one to try.




    Searched hm3 black tie xx and it was the first or second link that came up, 22.5 plus shipping




    Alright Well I'm underwhelmed lol. Thanks
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    edited Jul 11, 2018 #26
    In the shop getting the new shaft put in over night, supper excited to get it out tomorrow, If it’s even close to the Nike vapor Fly Pro 3 iron it will be a missile
  • geochitowngeochitown Members Posts: 1,611 ✭✭
    word to the wise.



    I lilke Matrix shafts and bought a hM3 95 stiff from golfstealsdeals.



    I weighed the raw shaft and it's 85 g.



    Do the black tie's measure light?



    I have a 7M3 that also is light, but I was suprised to the see the 10 g in the hM3 95g



    OP: Would Aldila NV 105 be a similar shaft to try?
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    geochitown wrote:
    word to the wise.



    I lilke Matrix shafts and bought a hM3 95 stiff from golfstealsdeals.



    I weighed the raw shaft and it's 85 g.



    Do the black tie's measure light?



    I have a 7M3 that also is light, but I was suprised to the see the 10 g in the hM3 95g



    OP: Would Aldila NV 105 be a similar shaft to try?




    Interesting, the 105 felt similar to a current 115g shaft I have at home. Will pick it up today, if I don’t like the matrix I will more that likely just put x100 and play same shaft as my irons
  • bdubs3316bdubs3316 Members Posts: 411 ✭✭
    very hard to find....but the Project X HA-1 is a FANTASTIC driving iron shaft.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    Thing is a missile with the matrix hm3 105 xx, pushing the distance of my 3 wood
  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members Posts: 493 ✭✭
    So I think I’m going to throw a 130 gram steel shaft in it, I played the weekend with the black tie 105 xx in and it’s just wayyyy to light for me
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