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KBS Tour vs Nippon Modus 3


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I've been playing KBS Tour for a couple years and really like them. Feel is good, dispersion is good. Spin and launch are right for me and I really have no complaints. I also hit the KBS Tour 90's recently at an outdoor fitting with the cushin insert (adds 10 grams) and was pleasantly surprised.

I just picked up a set of irons that have Nippon Modus 3 shafts in them and was wondering if anyone has experience with both the KBS Tours and the Modus 3 that could compare them.

Obviously my results will probably be different than yours, but I'm interested in hearing some opinions.

Thanks

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Nippon is softer, a much better feel and has a better flight. The KBS spin too much, esp. into the wind. Modus 3 are better wind shafts- penetrate through the wind. KBS don't.

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Thanks for the help guys. Seems like you all pretty much agree that the Modus 3's are pretty damn good. I love a soft feel with my iron shafts and would really like t see better performance into the wind. KBS Tours struggle for me when it gets too gusty.
Can't wait till they get here so that I can give them a whirl!

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I just switched from KBS tours in my R9TP irons to Modus3 in the new Ping i20's, both stiff flex. I understood that the Modus 3 was slightly lighter than the KBS tour? Feels softer and lighter to me.

Cobra F9 Speedback (Avalanche) driver 10.5* - Hzrdus Smoke Black 60, Stiff
Cobra F9 Speedback (Avalanche) fairway 3/4 - Hzrdus Smoke Black 70, Stiff
Mizuno CLK hybrids 16* (2) & 19* (3) degree - Fujikura Speeder Evo 75 HB, Stiff
Mizuno MP18 Fli-Hi 4 & 5 iron - KBS Tour C-Taper Lite, Stiff
Mizuno MP18 (MB) 6-PW irons - KBS Tour C-Taper Lite, Stiff
Mizuno S18 wedge SATIN - 52* 09 - KBS Tour C-Taper Lite, Stiff
Mizuno S18 wedge BLACK - 58* 04 - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0, Stiff
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[quote name='Crazy 8' timestamp='1330622003' post='4411453']
I just switched from KBS tours in my R9TP irons to Modus3 in the new Ping i20's, both stiff flex. I understood that the Modus 3 was slightly lighter than the KBS tour? Feels softer and lighter to me.
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My swing speed is 89-93 mph with 6 iron, and I knock the snot out of the modus. On trackman, I get better numbers with this shaft than any other (spin around 5600, launch around 16, landing averaging 50, and carry 188-191). Feel takes some getting use to, but, dispersion is solid. Had to increase swingweight in order to get the feel I needed to consistently make great contact, otherwise it would be too light for me.

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Have played KBS Tours before in a set of AP2's and they were quite nice shafts but currently have Modus 3 soft stepped once in a new set of ping i20 irons (built with a swing-weight of D2). I think the Modus 3 have a stiffer tip section but feel smoother due to the softer butt section.

I've only hit them at the range as it's still to cold in the north east of scotland to play. However, the other day I hit about 20 shots with the 8 iron and was carrying 160yds - dispersion was within a couple of feet of each other! For me the modus 3 have a tighter dispersion, are a club longer and I prefer the feel.

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[quote name='300Drive' timestamp='1331139135' post='4455501']
[quote name='Crazy 8' timestamp='1330622003' post='4411453']
I just switched from KBS tours in my R9TP irons to Modus3 in the new Ping i20's, both stiff flex. I understood that the Modus 3 was slightly lighter than the KBS tour? Feels softer and lighter to me.
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My swing speed is 89-93 mph with 6 iron, and I knock the snot out of the modus. On trackman, I get better numbers with this shaft than any other (spin around 5600, launch around 16, landing averaging 50, and carry 188-191). Feel takes some getting use to, but, dispersion is solid. Had to increase swingweight in order to get the feel I needed to consistently make great contact, otherwise it would be too light for me.
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I am around the same SS with 6-iron. Which flex are you using in the Modus?

919THI 11.5° / 1° open
929hs 20° / dead square
775hs 21° & 24° & 27°
Mizuno JPX 800 Pro 6-pw
MP-T11 50° & 55° / MPT4 61°
Ping Sydney 33"

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[quote name='geeza_1' timestamp='1331286096' post='4468221']
[quote name='300Drive' timestamp='1331139135' post='4455501']
[quote name='Crazy 8' timestamp='1330622003' post='4411453']
I just switched from KBS tours in my R9TP irons to Modus3 in the new Ping i20's, both stiff flex. I understood that the Modus 3 was slightly lighter than the KBS tour? Feels softer and lighter to me.
[/quote]
My swing speed is 89-93 mph with 6 iron, and I knock the snot out of the modus. On trackman, I get better numbers with this shaft than any other (spin around 5600, launch around 16, landing averaging 50, and carry 188-191). Feel takes some getting use to, but, dispersion is solid. Had to increase swingweight in order to get the feel I needed to consistently make great contact, otherwise it would be too light for me.
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I am around the same SS with 6-iron. Which flex are you using in the Modus?
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Stiff flex. If I were you, i'd demo an X if possible. "I believe" the X would fit even better, BUT, its just a supposition (he didnt have an X to demo). The results (dispersion, spin, launch, carry) with the S are wonderful.

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  • 4 months later...

This shaft is starting to sound like a winner to me, been looking for something with similar launch/fel to the KBS tour but with lower spin.

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I know this is alittle off topic, but does anyone have experience comparing the Modus3 with the Super Peening Blue? I am trying to decide for my next set. I am going to test both on the launch monitor, but wanted to see if anyone has experience with both of these?

LEFT HANDED

Titleist TSR3 with Metaflex 5H shaft (currently testing the Proxima 6 stiff shaft)
Titleist TSR2 16.5 degree fwy with Ventus Red 7 stiff shaft
Ping G430 19 and 22 degree hybrids with Ventus Blue HB 8 stiff shaft
Srixon ZX7 mkii 5-PW with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts

Titleist SM9 50F, 54D, 58T wedge with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts
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Thanks. Looking forward to trying both.

LEFT HANDED

Titleist TSR3 with Metaflex 5H shaft (currently testing the Proxima 6 stiff shaft)
Titleist TSR2 16.5 degree fwy with Ventus Red 7 stiff shaft
Ping G430 19 and 22 degree hybrids with Ventus Blue HB 8 stiff shaft
Srixon ZX7 mkii 5-PW with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts

Titleist SM9 50F, 54D, 58T wedge with Fuji Axiom 105 stiff shafts
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How would the Modus3 in X compare in FEEL to DG X100? ... Im after a lighter weight X flex that has the FEEL of an S300 but the PERFORMANCE of an X. = lower launch, lower spin, tighter dispersion. SS 96mph 6 iron.

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SM6 46.08 F Grind - S300
SM6 50.08 F Grind - S300
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Well ive had my modus3 in my mp63 for about 1 month now and WOW!

I was previously using Adams A4 with kbs but these shafts are so much nicer. Feel alot more solid and certainly great into the wind.
I have gained more than half a club moving to these even though mynlofts are weaker.

Flight is lower with the modus and longer. (I demoed a 63 with kbs stiff against my modus with 63)

Certainly a fan.

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I have KBS tour stiff in my irons other than the 2 iron, which I have modus 3 x flex. For me the kbs launch much higher and are effected by the wind than the modus. The modus does have a softer butt, with an odd (at least for me) feel during the downswing, but I have yet to hit a bad approach into par 5s with the modus. Very nice dispersion.

I have been contemplating changing out the rest of my irons to modus or x100. So a comparison between those would be cool.

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Any recent accounts regarding these two shafts? Thanks in advance.

Driver:  TaylorMade 300 Mini 11.5° (10.2°), Fujikura Ventus Blue 5S Velocore

3W:  TaylorMade M4 15°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S

Hybrid:  TaylorMade Sim2 2 Iron Hybrid 17°, Mitsubishi Tensai AV Raw Blue 80 stiff

Irons:  Mizuno Pro 223 4-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

GW / SW: Mizuno T-22, 52° (bent to 50°)/ 56° (bent to 54°), True Temper S400

LW:  Scratch Golf 1018 forged 58° DS, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

Putter:  Byron Morgan Epic Day custom, Salty MidPlus cork grip

Grips:  BestGrips Augusta Microperf leather slip on

 

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Feel pretty similar to me...modus does go through wind easier, better or lower whatever tou wanna call it.....modus flight ball bit low ....though havent tried 130 yet in proper flex......

 

Seems like nothing really alters my ballflight a great great deal....bit here and there.....hit ball low so any height I can get is good......

 

After going thru just bout every shaft last year trying to find "perfect weight and feel" I am off the lightweight kick.....back to TT DG for me, they feel the best and have some heft....ydg numbers seem to be most consistent on course as well....

 

Kinda funny to go full circle and end up with plain ol std shafts.....

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