Chew: What are you dippin?

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  • PulledabillPulledabill Members Posts: 334 ✭✭
    Dipped Kodiak for years before it got too high in price then switched to Grizzly. Kicked the habit 10 years ago but get the urge when I play gokf with the young pro at my home course when he breaks out a can of Kodiak.
  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭


    I've been quit for a little over a month now. I decided to just quit while we were on vacation. After I quit I started getting a few rough patches on my gums and cheek. I go Friday for the second time to have more of it cut out as the first biopsy came back undetermined. He said he doesn't think it's cancer but they want the whole bits to test at the lab he sends it to. So I get to have the rest cut out (hopefully) Friday. For those that dip, it sucks to be playing this waiting game and the cutting of stuff out of your mouth tissue isn't fun. If you can, quit dipping now before you end up where I am.






    Dang man, I'm sorry to hear about that. I started in college because I wanted to be "cool", did it for about two years, then found a lump in my lower lip and was scared straight....for about 8-9 years.





    Then I started working for the Minnesota Twins, and found a half chewed tin in the dugout at Target Field, and it's been on-and-off again ever since.





    I know I am going to seriously put an axe to it for good in the near future, but in the meantime they re-introduced Skoal Spearmint and I've been loving that stuff.





    Definitely need to quit it for good though.







    If you don't mind me asking, when did you start, how much per month habit did you have and for how long? Your withdrawal must have been lethal?
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  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    Joe85 wrote:



    I've been quit for a little over a month now. I decided to just quit while we were on vacation. After I quit I started getting a few rough patches on my gums and cheek. I go Friday for the second time to have more of it cut out as the first biopsy came back undetermined. He said he doesn't think it's cancer but they want the whole bits to test at the lab he sends it to. So I get to have the rest cut out (hopefully) Friday. For those that dip, it sucks to be playing this waiting game and the cutting of stuff out of your mouth tissue isn't fun. If you can, quit dipping now before you end up where I am.






    Dang man, I'm sorry to hear about that. I started in college because I wanted to be "cool", did it for about two years, then found a lump in my lower lip and was scared straight....for about 8-9 years.





    Then I started working for the Minnesota Twins, and found a half chewed tin in the dugout at Target Field, and it's been on-and-off again ever since.





    I know I am going to seriously put an axe to it for good in the near future, but in the meantime they re-introduced Skoal Spearmint and I've been loving that stuff.





    Definitely need to quit it for good though.







    If you don't mind me asking, when did you start, how much per month habit did you have and for how long? Your withdrawal must have been lethal?




    Over 20 years, a can a day and the withdrawal wasn’t that bad. I started while we were on vacation and drank a 12er of beer a day minimum on the beach lol. Got home and was down to 2 pinches a day. The can I bought on the way home, I decided was the last one I’d buy. I got one last dip on the way home from work 3 days after vacation and threw the other half of the can out the window and havent touched it since
  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭



    I’ve been quit for a little over a month now. I decided to just quit while we were on vacation. After I quit I started getting a few rough patches on my gums and cheek. I go Friday for the second time to have more of it cut out as the first biopsy came back undetermined. He said he doesn’t think it’s cancer but they want the whole bits to test at the lab he sends it to. So I get to have the rest cut out (hopefully) Friday. For those that dip, it sucks to be playing this waiting game and the cutting of stuff out of your mouth tissue isn’t fun. If you can, quit dipping now before you end up where I am.




    Hey Rookie,,haven't seen you around for a while. Welcome back (if you were gone)




    I’ve been in and out but the last month and a half to two, I’ve been busy with the dental stuff and work
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  • ttice6ttice6 Members Posts: 102 ✭✭
    In high school I feel as though I must have tried just about every flavor of Skoal but don’t think I’ve had peach. Might have to give it a try next time I hit the course. Otherwise is old faithful, Grizzly Wintegreen.
  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    Had all of the areas cut out this morning. He cut 2 pieces about 1/2" long and 1/4" wide out and sent them off for analysis and then CO2 lasered the rest out. If you ever want to smell something awful, a CO2 laser burning stuff out in your mouth would be it. Quit dipping while you're ahead folks.
  • PZeroPZero Members Posts: 11,392 ✭✭


    Quit dipping while you're ahead folks.




    Exactly this. June marked 4 years for me. Really glad I quit. 10 year habit, quit cold turkey.



    Just looked back and my first post in this thread is to you about how tough it is to quit.



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  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    PZero wrote:



    Quit dipping while you're ahead folks.




    Exactly this. June marked 4 years for me. Really glad I quit. 10 year habit, quit cold turkey.



    Just looked back and my first post in this thread is to you about how tough it is to quit.



    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/701746-chew-what-are-you-dippin/page__st__30#entry6701113




    Man I dipped Copenhagen for 20+ years. That stuff is like crack. There’s nothing like the taste of a pinch of fresh cope. I just decided to quit and this stuff came up afterward. It’s not worth it and he said he’s not sure it’s even from dipping. But it’s exactly where I used to hold a pinch at
  • tips09tips09 Members Posts: 230 ✭✭
    Dipped for 8 years but slowed down to a random can every month or two. Moved to snus ordered from Sweden. Dip was Copenhagen snuff or wintergreen when I needed a switch up. Still don't have a consistent choice for snus. I will say living in Canada makes it very easy to quit chewing. The price of a can of cope is now 30 bucks. Good thing I am a 5 minute drive to the us border.
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  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    Dear lord...$30 a tin? Now that's a sin tax.
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  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    Some results today. I still have to go get cut on again. That said, I’m very fortunate to report that I don’t currently have cancer. I have precancerous lesions with moderate dysplasia directly related to dipping tobacco.



    Please, please if you dip, stop. This is still scary and I still have multiple treatments ahead and my gum line is precariously close and could swing either way.
  • Bingo1976Bingo1976 Members Posts: 2,507 ✭✭


    Some results today. I still have to go get cut on again. That said, I'm very fortunate to report that I don't currently have cancer. I have precancerous lesions with moderate dysplasia directly related to dipping tobacco.



    Please, please if you dip, stop. This is still scary and I still have multiple treatments ahead and my gum line is precariously close and could swing either way.




    This.



    I will not be a hypocrite - I did drink and smoke from the age of 15 to my mid 30s. I now have the occasional drink and have not touched a smoke since the eve of my wedding night.



    I've been lucky so far with my health, but if I could go back to my younger self and change anything, it would be the smoking. It has zero benefit to your life, makes you stink, and there is a good chance it will kill you in many nasty ways.
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  • blairdblaird Members Posts: 2,153 ✭✭
    I dipped grizzly wintergreen while in college then switched to copenhagen wintergreen for a long time. Over the last couple years I have gone mostly to the wintergreen pouches, dont think it was a great call since I can get away with dipping anywhere I please now and probably have a pouch in more than I did a regular dip.



    I really need to quit though. Ive been a steady dipper for probably the last 12 years. I used to smoke but quit that and started back dipping. I have sinus issues and everytime they flare up it scares me that I may have throat cancer. My sinus issues make me feel like I have something poking inside my throat around my adam's apple. I go see my ent everytime this happens and he does a quick scope. This summer it happened again and the doc said everything was fine and explained what was going on but it takes me about a month to get over and im always panicking during that time. My brother on the other hand has dipped for 30 years and has had zero issues.



    I agree with what has been said above, quit now!! I know i really need to.
  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    blaird wrote:
    . I have sinus issues and everytime they flare up it scares me that I may have throat cancer. My sinus issues make me feel like I have something poking inside my throat around my adam's apple.




    I have those same fears, irrational or not, I have 'em.





    I had my "last chew" on 8-18-18...we'll see how long I can kick it for this time.





    When my jaw starts hurting and I get weaker at work like has been happening this last couple weeks it's usually a sign my body (jaw) is telling me stop putting that foreign substance/crap into your body, it's not meant to be there.





    They just started producing that Skoal Spearmint again and I really fell in love with it. But it's not helping my physical well-being.





    (Funny how this topic started as one for dippers and now has turned into advocacy for quitting.)





    I wonder - and this is probably just common knowledge - but those who start chewing later in life (I started at age 24) and did it more sporadically, are less likely to have serious health issues from smokeless tobacco? I did it for less than 2 years in college, stopped for almost a decade, and it's been on and off for the last 3-4 years.





    I am certain someone who started later in life like me has a stronger chance to quit for good, but I am wondering if the toxic health effects are less likely for a person like me
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  • blairdblaird Members Posts: 2,153 ✭✭
    I have a buddy that used to chew and quit. Its funny to me he chews about 5 times a year...a couple specific tournaments and when he plays with a specific person. He has no problem not going back to it when the rounds are done. I dont know how I would make it a round of golf without one.
  • SnapHooker_605SnapHooker_605 Members Posts: 768 ✭✭
    I do Frost Camel Snus. Based on the previous comments, I should probably just man up and quit. Not sure if I can though.
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  • tips09tips09 Members Posts: 230 ✭✭
    Joe85 wrote:


    Dear lord...$30 a tin? Now that's a sin tax.


    Ha sure is. I live in Vancouver BC. BC stands for bring cash. Lately I rarely dip, usually only on boys trips to the states I will buy one can and once thats gone won't touch it for another 4-6 months. Nicorette gum helps a ton if you are really committed to quitting or the very least slowing down.
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  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    tips09 wrote:

    Joe85 wrote:


    Dear lord...$30 a tin? Now that's a sin tax.


    Ha sure is. I live in Vancouver BC. BC stands for bring cash. Lately I rarely dip, usually only on boys trips to the states I will buy one can and once thats gone won't touch it for another 4-6 months. Nicorette gum helps a ton if you are really committed to quitting or the very least slowing down.






    I've been on a few hockey tournaments to Canada over the years - one in B.C. (Cranbrook), actually. I remember things being more expensive there but it was so long ago that I can't recollect. Last trip I was on was back in 1998 to Winnipeg. First time any of us Yanks ever bought liquor legally as 18 year olds as 18 was the legal age to purchase up there. Good times.







    We humans are such gluttons for punishment. Even though we know tobacco is such toxic crap (when your jaw starts hurting that's your body telling you to knock it off) but we just keep shoving it in our jaws.





    I'll have a week without a chew tomorrow and we'll see if I can make this a long dry run like some of my quits in the past...
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  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    I woke up with one of the worst headaches of my life last night (this morning) at like 3am. My last chew was a week ago and It occurred to me that that might have been a symptom of not having a chew in a week.





    I've been through nicotine withdrawal before but hadn't recalled that happening.
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  • RookieBlue7RookieBlue7 Members Posts: 13,157 ✭✭
    I got to go back today and have more cut out of my jaw/gums. Today should be my last trip then just checkups. Got 3 stitches today and will be down for a couple days on pain meds and lying around eating soup and popsicles. It’s awful to go through but it’s not cancer yet on any of the biopsy’s.
  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    I quit (again) for 6 weeks, but I ballooned up from 180 to 190 lbs. So I capitulated and got a tin of Skoal. So now I'm back on again.



    Even though after that last withdrawal I woke up to the most thunderous, painful headache I've had in my adult life, one morning.



    Oh well...I will quit again (for good), in due time. Just have to stick with it.
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  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,720 ✭✭
    Red Man for me. Love the long strand pouch tobacco. Reminds me of my deceased Grandpa and doesn't get stuck in my teeth. I like to chew on something and move it around my mouth so a "chew pocket" doesn't get raw and inflamed.
  • macedanmacedan Members Posts: 217 ✭✭
    Dipped for about 3 and half years. Quit about a year ago junior year of college. My everyday dip for the first year was always Copenhagen XLC Natural before discovering how sickly sweet Stoker's Wintergreen was for such a cheap tub. I still miss it, sometimes I will order a little can of Back-Off but nothing is the same as reaching into a tub of Stoker's.
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  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,720 ✭✭
    I know it's weird, but I like to chew and smoke. I try not to do either very frequently. I buy a pouch of tobacco every other month or so and it usually takes me 10 days to 3 weeks to chew it all. Cig's I try and only bum or smoke a cigar rather than have a pack as I'm almost addicted by the end of a week or so of having a cig or two every day. All things in moderation.
  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    My jaw was sore for a while after starting back up again - I thought Skoal might be a cleaner tobacco product (than, say, Kayak) but I wonder if it wasn't the culprit.





    Any way, I got some General Swedish Snus (I got a tin before when I had a coupon for it) and have been doing that. It's allegedly as clean a "chaw" product you can get, and there is apparently really low levels of oral cancer in Scandinavia where it is more used.





    However, there are some problems with it: 24 pouches are expensive. If you can't moderate them (use only 1 at a time instead of 2 or more) you can go through a "tin" quickly.



    Moreover, you don't get that "I have a chaw in my mouth" sort of vibe when you insert a pouch.



    That said, my sore jaw isn't sore anymore since I started on the tin of General.





    Also, if you guys are interested in nicotine-less products, "Grinds" aren't bad. They're made of coffee and apparently one pouch is equal 1/4 cup of coffee, so it's a stimulant in that respect. https://www.getgrinds.com/
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  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
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    Joe85 wrote:


    My jaw was sore for a while after starting back up again - I thought Skoal might be a cleaner tobacco product (than, say, Kayak) but I wonder if it wasn't the culprit.





    Any way, I got some General Swedish Snus (I got a tin before when I had a coupon for it) and have been doing that. It's allegedly as clean a "chaw" product you can get, and there is apparently really low levels of oral cancer in Scandinavia where it is more used.





    However, there are some problems with it: 24 pouches are expensive. If you can't moderate them (use only 1 at a time instead of 2 or more) you can go through a "tin" quickly.



    Moreover, you don't get that "I have a chaw in my mouth" sort of vibe when you insert a pouch.



    That said, my sore jaw isn't sore anymore since I started on the tin of General.





    Also, if you guys are interested in nicotine-less products, "Grinds" aren't bad. They're made of coffee and apparently one pouch is equal 1/4 cup of coffee, so it's a stimulant in that respect. https://www.getgrinds.com/




    Hey Joe,

    I`ve been chewing the General for about a year now. Much easier on the teeth and gums. Skoal pouches are too sweet and Cope was giving me heartburn from ****. I like the General and around here it`s a bit cheaper than the two big brands. it`s not very popular so watch out for old tins.
  • Joe85Joe85 Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭

    Joe85 wrote:


    My jaw was sore for a while after starting back up again - I thought Skoal might be a cleaner tobacco product (than, say, Kayak) but I wonder if it wasn't the culprit.





    Any way, I got some General Swedish Snus (I got a tin before when I had a coupon for it) and have been doing that. It's allegedly as clean a "chaw" product you can get, and there is apparently really low levels of oral cancer in Scandinavia where it is more used.





    However, there are some problems with it: 24 pouches are expensive. If you can't moderate them (use only 1 at a time instead of 2 or more) you can go through a "tin" quickly.



    Moreover, you don't get that "I have a chaw in my mouth" sort of vibe when you insert a pouch.



    That said, my sore jaw isn't sore anymore since I started on the tin of General.





    Also, if you guys are interested in nicotine-less products, "Grinds" aren't bad. They're made of coffee and apparently one pouch is equal 1/4 cup of coffee, so it's a stimulant in that respect. https://www.getgrinds.com/




    Hey Joe,

    I`ve been chewing the General for about a year now. Much easier on the teeth and gums. Skoal pouches are too sweet and Cope was giving me heartburn from ****. I like the General and around here it`s a bit cheaper than the two big brands. it`s not very popular so watch out for old tins.






    Yeah I swas getting past due tins from the place I was buying, so now it's a habit to check sell-bsell-by dates when I buy.



    How much is general where you're at? Really wish there were more than 24 pouches! The tins are like half empty when new.
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  • ChronicSlicerChronicSlicer Members Posts: 949 ✭✭
    Joe85 wrote:


    Joe85 wrote:


    My jaw was sore for a while after starting back up again - I thought Skoal might be a cleaner tobacco product (than, say, Kayak) but I wonder if it wasn't the culprit.





    Any way, I got some General Swedish Snus (I got a tin before when I had a coupon for it) and have been doing that. It's allegedly as clean a "chaw" product you can get, and there is apparently really low levels of oral cancer in Scandinavia where it is more used.





    However, there are some problems with it: 24 pouches are expensive. If you can't moderate them (use only 1 at a time instead of 2 or more) you can go through a "tin" quickly.



    Moreover, you don't get that "I have a chaw in my mouth" sort of vibe when you insert a pouch.



    That said, my sore jaw isn't sore anymore since I started on the tin of General.





    Also, if you guys are interested in nicotine-less products, "Grinds" aren't bad. They're made of coffee and apparently one pouch is equal 1/4 cup of coffee, so it's a stimulant in that respect. https://www.getgrinds.com/




    Hey Joe,

    I`ve been chewing the General for about a year now. Much easier on the teeth and gums. Skoal pouches are too sweet and Cope was giving me heartburn from ****. I like the General and around here it`s a bit cheaper than the two big brands. it`s not very popular so watch out for old tins.






    Yeah I swas getting past due tins from the place I was buying, so now it's a habit to check sell-bsell-by dates when I buy.



    How much is general where you're at? Really wish there were more than 24 pouches! The tins are like half empty when new.




    I believe they are 4 something a can.
  • jakeplaysgolfjakeplaysgolf Members Posts: 6
    Grizz dark wintergreen pouches. Very underrated imo.
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