No new acquistions...?

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

4 hours ago, bcstones said:

The "laughing with tears emoji" was not meant to be funny - it was my laughing at the persnicketness, narrow-mindness, the fragility of ego of that administrator. I'm an old coot, got no time for such silliness - if it weren't for a few people here who spoke well of that fb-group, I'd not have bothered applying again yesterday. I'm glad I did, there's alot to learn & alot of professionalism in the site.

Yeah, understood about Irish on both sides...over here, where the Irish immigrants were looked down on as second class citizens far too often, it does has a taint of derogatoriness - tho, I did not take your comment that way, I now know...thank you.

Oh, what does "take the rise out of someone" mean...(another expression I've not come across - ain't language fun)

 

 

Winnie the Pooh said that....or was it Piglet?

"Winnie the Pooh said that....or was it Piglet?"

 

Yup, that's taking the rise! 😁

Edited February 11 by The Aspidistra in the Hall

[bcstones]

26 minutes ago, The Aspidistra in the Hall said:

"Winnie the Pooh said that....or was it Piglet?"

 

Yup, that's taking the rise! 😁

like "taking the bait", eh......😂 Well, that wasn't my intent....sure am glad I asked tho. Learning all the time

[AZBandit]

Hello All,

I'm new to the forums and figured this would be a good post to jump in with.

 

About 15 years ago I found a set of Ram fastback irons in a thrift shop. I was pretty sure these were the clubs my dad played when he was teaching me to golf, so I picked them up. I figured I'd play them from time to time and enjoy the memories. That $20 set surprised me and I was hooked. A full shed later and I'm constantly looking for another nook to stash the latest set away from the eyes of my wife.

 

I'm posting today to see if anyone has info about my latest find - a set of Ram R76 irons and woods. I'm assuming they were produced in 1976, but there is precious little out there about these. (BTW - the wedge and putter weren't part of the deal)

 

Any info would be appreciated!

[Maine Golfer]

Those are sick. Love the 1776 style "branding". 

[bcstones]

Found this Spalding Robert T Jones Jr 1 iron this weekend & cleaned it up, it's already been reshafted & regripped....have only a guess at the shaft (have similar color & "tip stiff' on an Olimar 18* wood - UST ProForce 65 Gold ). I like Karma grips.
Should be fun to actually use....when I finally get cleared 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 11 by bcstones

[ae1985]

Found these while cleaning out my grandpa's basement before selling the house. I know nothing about  these clubs but the serials match.

[bcstones]

5 hours ago, ae1985 said:

Found these while cleaning out my grandpa's basement before selling the house. I know nothing about  these clubs but the serials match.

pictures of the face, the top, and the back would help....also the shafts, hopefully the shaft bands are on one of them...
so far, the Maltby guide shows Acushnet Titleist woods began in 1972 thru to 1975, maybe - the additional pics would help determine further

[AZBandit]

Picked up this "McCracken Violet Hill" driver a while ago. It has a TT Dynamic Gold shaft and (currently) no grip.  Does this one ring a bell with anyone?

 

 

[SnowbirdTom]

On 3/12/2024 at 8:04 AM, ae1985 said:

Found these while cleaning out my grandpa's basement before selling the house. I know nothing about  these clubs but the serials match.

1971-1974 issue.  Had a set way back then and still play a set on occasion. They’re laminate, not persimmon and play well in my opinion.  The matching irons are the Acushnet AC-108 with tungsten inserts.

 

Those look like they’ve never been refinished.

Edited March 15 by SnowbirdTom

[bcstones]

Interesting find on that fb marketplace thingie....it was described as a potential for wall hanging (bag & some old clubs). The bag caught my eye, cuz it looked like canvas & leather (yeah, it needed some leather replace/repair). Anyway, met the man who said these were found & were his GrandFather's, who used to be/work/have something to do w/Hollywood. He'd always kinda sorta hoped his GrandFather & these clubs might have played w/Bing Crosby....(that would have been nice, I'll have to see if I can get the GrandFather's name & maybe he did play at least on the same courses).

 

So the woods are Butchart Genuine Model persimmon woods (I'm guessing these are pre Butchart-Nichols)...but they have steel shafts, pencil thin at the head neck. As best as I could get, the lofts are 1 wood is ~12*, 2 wood is ~14*, & the 3 wood is ~17*. The signature on the top is "C S Butchart". There is no insert on the face & weighted at the back.  The whipping more or less fell off in my fingers. It looks as if there is some split in the neck, but would that have much effect as long as the shaft went thru to the sole? Also, the grain seems to run from face to back. So just how stable would the head be? Oh..."Opus artificem probat" translates as  "the work proves the craftsman". The grips are leather & in great shape. Finally, don't know if you can see it, or enlarge it for yourselves, at the bottom of the sole are figures, at the top of the sole it says "66 hand made". Each wood has "12 oz" (as far as I can make out), followed by either a "B" or "8"...then again, the 3 wood looks like "10 drw". Are they talking swing weights or draw?????

The other club turned out to be a hickory shafted jigger....in the circle is "Spalding Gold Medal"; above the circle is an accurate atop and arrow; below the circle is the number 1. On either side of the circle are what look like a flower. On the toe, it says "hand forged, the figure of a hammer, reg us pat off". The sole merely says "jigger"...and the face of the club is dot punched, however I can see no pattern of dots, guessing they are hand punched. The shaft looks split as it enters the hosel. The leather grip seems to just need some gentle care to restore (at the very least could be a template to make new strip). 

There is little info on C.S. Butchart, he was a Scot. Learned club making in Scotland & England, was a pro at a couple of courses, had a club making business' that folded. I don't know exactly when he crossed the pond to the US, but the Butchart-Nichols company began in 1926.....so could this pencil thin steel shaft date to the '20s? The jigger is also interesting, is the hammer a cleek mark? 

Any info would be most appreciated or point me in a direction....

Thanks for looking & taking the time/energy to read this far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the leading edge of the jigger is not really as jagged as it looks....more like the indents ya get from pebbles/hard ground....

 

Edited March 16 by bcstones

[Hickory4ever]

@bcstones, I can help you out a little on the Jigger. I checked my book on Cleek marks and the hammer was circa 1918, and the arrow accurate were in use 1910-20. Spalding used a lot of different Cleek marks. The club is probably from around 1918. The face is definitely hand punched.

 

I am not much help on the woods. 
 

 

[AZBandit]

It was a VERY good day at the Goodwill. I found all of these beauties in two stores on my lunch break! Needless to say, this is not the norm. It must be spring cleaning time.

 

There was even a really nice shoe brush and a wheat-back penny in the bag!

 

The Ram Watson driver has what appears to be tear-out from machining on the face. Any tips on filling this on persimmon faces? 

[SnowbirdTom]

Wow!  Love the Atlantic bag.

 

Re: face being torn up.  A vintage club restorer would end up cutting the face off, gluing a block of fresh persimmon on and rebuilding it because the wood got soft and was torn up by ball striking.

[AdamMH]

15 minutes ago, AZBandit said:

It was a VERY good day at the Goodwill. I found all of these beauties in two stores on my lunch break! Needless to say, this is not the norm. It must be spring cleaning time.

 

There was even a really nice shoe brush and a wheat-back penny in the bag!

 

The Ram Watson driver has what appears to be tear-out from machining on the face. Any tips on filling this on persimmon faces? 

 

 

That isn't tear out, rather poor care from someone who struck out of the toe a lot. As the finish wears away from use, the brittle wood becomes exposed and eventually chips away. You can graft persimmon from a donor head into the face or simply strip the finish and fill with clear epoxy.

[weakputt]

The Joe Powell driver alone is a great find!

[dashanks]

On 3/13/2024 at 4:49 PM, AZBandit said:

Picked up this "McCracken Violet Hill" driver a while ago. It has a TT Dynamic Gold shaft and (currently) no grip.  Does this one ring a bell with anyone?

 

 

Beautiful persimmon driver by little known club designer Phil McCracken.

[Hickory4ever]

3 of my 6 acquisitions at the GHSC Collectibles and Memorabilia Show. The two Jiggers and a putter are not shown as my buddy is resetting the heads.

 

[northplatteriver]

Those look like some fun additions, especially the flanged Gibson.

[AZBandit]

 

What's with the holes in the hosel of the Gibson? Was someone trying to lower the swing weight? I don't think I've seen that before...

[AZBandit]

4 hours ago, dashanks said:

Beautiful persimmon driver by little known club designer Phil McCracken.

 

Wait... Is this real or did I just get "Bart Simpsoned"? 😄

[dashanks]

1 hour ago, AZBandit said:

 

Wait... Is this real or did I just get "Bart Simpsoned"? 😄

Uh, the second thing.  Sorry.   Couldn't resist.

[AdamMH]

3 hours ago, AZBandit said:

 

Wait... Is this real or did I just get "Bart Simpsoned"? 😄

 

His shop assistant Ben Dover went on to start his own business in an unrelated field.

[dashanks]

1 hour ago, AdamMH said:

 

His shop assistant Ben Dover went on to start his own business in an unrelated field.

It's good to go back to the sixth grade sometimes.   I enjoy it.

[Hickory4ever]

11 hours ago, AZBandit said:

 

What's with the holes in the hosel of the Gibson? Was someone trying to lower the swing weight? I don't think I've seen that before...

I have seen the holes before but would not have done it myself. 

[Hickory4ever]

11 hours ago, northplatteriver said:

Those look like some fun additions, especially the flanged Gibson.

The two Niblicks are needed for to make a couple new play sets. The Maxwell will be kept. The two Jiggers (not shown) are great designs and you can never have enough Jiggers 😀. 

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

18 hours ago, AZBandit said:

 

What's with the holes in the hosel of the Gibson? Was someone trying to lower the swing weight? I don't think I've seen that before...

Standard Maxwell patterb hosel, as you observed, if you take weight out of the non-hitting area you can relocate it on a flange.

[FloggingOkie]

Grabbed a taped up bundle of clubs at a local goodwill today. Got it home and these are the keepers. Late 50s Wilson Staff 2 iron, Hogan Apex driver, and a pretty nice First Flight persimmon 3 wood. The rest will be parted out for the shafts and grips. Sadly the Hogan has a dent in the shaft at the grip line 😕 .

[Foozle]

It has been a long wet winter here in Scotland so my persimmons are only now beginning to emerge from hibernation. I dodged the showers today to try out a few including this (fairly) recent acquisition. 

Head I believe is from 1941 but reshafted with a DGS300. She is sweet!

Always a sucker for a swept back sole plate but this one plays as she looks - lovely!

 

[Foozle]

I have finally done what I promised I would never do! I have succumbed to peer pressure and bought myself one of these new fangled super sized woods!

Someone at my club told me they make woods out of metal now but I don't believe him.

If they do, it will never catch on! 🤣

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

51 minutes ago, Foozle said:

I have finally done what I promised I would never do! I have succumbed to peer pressure and bought myself one of these new fangled super sized woods!

Someone at my club told me they make woods out of metal now but I don't believe him.

If they do, it will never catch on! 🤣

Some of us will never sell out, lol.

 

I've got one of those graphite headed Whales....goes pretty well, which I use when it's too wet for my persimmons.