Guess that answers that question.

[alucard655]

Tiger Woods

Q. You talked a little bit about the shafts, but how often would you change your shafts compared to the actual clubs and how important is the shaft for your game?

TIGER WOODS: That's a very good question. I have played exactly the same setup in my irons since I was about 14, 14 and a half, X-1s tipped a quarter. I haven't changed in 17 years. Irons have been exactly the same. Driver shaft is obviously different, 43 1/2 to now 45-inch graphite, but I haven't changed a thing in my irons.

It doesn't mean I haven't tried. I've experimented with other shafts, but I've got this innate feel now built in for all these years what has been working for me.

[youngwaldo]

[quote name='alucard655' post='812100' date='Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM']Q. You talked a little bit about the shafts, but how often would you change your shafts compared to the actual clubs and how important is the shaft for your game?

TIGER WOODS: That's a very good question. I have played exactly the same setup in my irons since I was about 14, 14 and a half, X-1s tipped a quarter. I haven't changed in 17 years. Irons have been exactly the same. Driver shaft is obviously different, 43 1/2 to now 45-inch graphite, but I haven't changed a thing in my irons.

It doesn't mean I haven't tried. I've experimented with other shafts, but I've got this innate feel now built in for all these years what has been working for me.[/quote]


I thought he used DG Tour in his irons.

[TM golf guy]

[quote name='youngwaldo' post='812106' date='Dec 4 2007, 01:23 PM'][quote name='alucard655' post='812100' date='Dec 4 2007, 03:17 PM']Q. You talked a little bit about the shafts, but how often would you change your shafts compared to the actual clubs and how important is the shaft for your game?

TIGER WOODS: That's a very good question. I have played exactly the same setup in my irons since I was about 14, 14 and a half, X-1s tipped a quarter. I haven't changed in 17 years. Irons have been exactly the same. Driver shaft is obviously different, 43 1/2 to now 45-inch graphite, but I haven't changed a thing in my irons.

It doesn't mean I haven't tried. I've experimented with other shafts, but I've got this innate feel now built in for all these years what has been working for me.[/quote]


I thought he used DG Tour in his irons.
[/quote]

So did lots of people.

[honmagolf]

Pretty sure that means Dynamic Gold X100

[TM golf guy]

[quote name='honmagolf' post='812147' date='Dec 4 2007, 02:15 PM']Pretty sure that means Dynamic Gold X100[/quote]

It does.

Many people thought that he used the Dynamic Gold Tour shafts. True Temper has said many times that he uses X-100's. This is not breaking news, some people just refuse to believe the truth.

[wkuo3]

[quote name='honmagolf' post='812147' date='Dec 4 2007, 03:15 PM']Pretty sure that means Dynamic Gold X100[/quote]
Not 101% sure but yes.

[thattigga]

[quote name='honmagolf' post='812147' date='Dec 4 2007, 03:15 PM']Pretty sure that means Dynamic Gold X100[/quote]

yea... thats what he means

[Shortknocker]

so if he tips his shafts, does that mean he uses parallel shafts vs taper tips?

[giogolf]

[quote name='Shortknocker' post='812270' date='Dec 4 2007, 05:22 PM']so if he tips his shafts, does that mean he uses parallel shafts vs taper tips?[/quote]
I would like to know the same thing. I have tipped taper Dynamic golds and have not had much luck. Anyone in the know; maybe Joe K.?

[BEND OF THE RIVER GC]

Just ANOTHER reason why TW is so successful, he rarely switches anything out in this bag, he knows what works for him. I believe, that he may have been one of the last to change his driver shaft to graphite..

[Cub]

Yeah him, Adam Scott, and Bob Estes were the last people to switch out of steel shafted drivers.

[kitsoasis]

he started using X-flex when he was 14?
must've been strong

[iyan7]

[quote name='kitsoasis' post='812630' date='Dec 4 2007, 08:49 PM']he started using X-flex when he was 14?
must've been strong[/quote]

That was what I thought too. Or did he just have grown used to it?

Great post by the OP, thanks.

[joey3108]

He never use DG Tour.

Daly does use DG Tour

1/4" tipped on taper tip at 99% will have no problem to fit a taper hosel, if not...it will be so easy to just shave a bit to fit.

[tc_f210]

it's pretty easy to figure out where the bogus info came from (hint: a certain website pumping dg tours)

[Constantin]

When you look at Tiger's swing sequence from his book when he was sixteen, he did not appear all that strong back then. I guess he just learned to swing fast using those X100s.

[giogolf]

[quote name='joey3108' post='812735' date='Dec 4 2007, 11:25 PM']He never use DG Tour.

Daly does use DG Tour

1/4" tipped on taper tip at 99% will have no problem to fit a taper hosel, if not...it will be so easy to just shave a bit to fit.[/quote]
Joe,
Tipping Taper Tip Dynamic Golds will stiffen by how much usually? 1/4 flex, 1/2 flex? Also would it change the bend pint a little, and lower the ball flight? Thanks

[Golfdog]

[quote name='joey3108' post='812735' date='Dec 4 2007, 11:25 PM']He never use DG Tour.

Daly does use DG Tour

1/4" tipped on taper tip at 99% will have no problem to fit a taper hosel, if not...it will be so easy to just shave a bit to fit.[/quote]

Would the shaft actually insert any farther into the hosel? It seems to me that you'd just be removing the bottom of the shaft and it wouldn't insert any further. Do you mean that they shave down the tip a little to insert it further?

[Hifade]

It does still insert to the bottom (ie, a 1/4" further) in most cases and that 1/4" tipping will not make much of a noticable difference to 99.9% of the players in the flex, bend point etc......Tiger may be the only one to feel the difference in a 1/4" tipped shaft. It may also be that, that is what he went with long ago and, as stated, does not switch so sticks with it. I'm pretty sure it won't change the flex much at all. What it probably does is add a slight bit of weight to the overall feel of the club.

[joey3108]

Hifade just answered your questions perfectly. Thanks Jim!

It's more mental satisfaction than physical. A few CPM for El Tigre is enough for him to feel it. All an all is a bit sturdier by the tip from using the thicker part by tipping 1/4".

I just did for a customer last week tipping an S300 3/8" on a lehman grind and fit perfectly all the way in without shaving/modifying the hosel size.

This unusual modification is a good thinking for El Tigre style of swing IMO.

If you guys want to feel the different, Hit a vokey wedge and compare it with TM Y cutter...Vokey has at least 1/4 deeper hosel installation than TM wedges. For me, I can control the ball flight of vokey better than TM wedges...parts of it is the shaft insertion IMO (spec being equal of course).

[TM golf guy]

[quote name='joey3108' post='813110' date='Dec 5 2007, 10:30 AM']Hifade just answered your questions perfectly. Thanks Jim!

It's more mental satisfaction than physical. A few CPM for El Tigre is enough for him to feel it. All an all is a bit sturdier by the tip from using the thicker part by tipping 1/4".

I just did for a customer last week tipping an S300 3/8" on a lehman grind and fit perfectly all the way in without shaving/modifying the hosel size.

This unusual modification is a good thinking for El Tigre style of swing IMO.

[b]If you guys want to feel the different, Hit a vokey wedge and compare it with TM Y cutter...Vokey has at least 1/4 deeper hosel installation than TM wedges. For me, I can control the ball flight of vokey better than TM wedges...parts of it is the shaft insertion IMO (spec being equal of course).[/b][/quote]

Joe,

Couldn't agree more with you. When I got my TM wedges, the first thing I did was pull the shafts, blue print the wedges (wooden dowels and all), and add some S400's tipped 1/4." It really does make a difference.

[golfer_junior]

X-flex isn't really that much stiffer than a stiff. Its about feel.

[Tim Delgado]

[quote name='golfer_junior' post='813793' date='Dec 5 2007, 08:46 PM']X-flex isn't really that much stiffer than a stiff. Its about feel.[/quote]



I havr hit my friend's s300s many times, and the difference between his shafts and my x100s is HUGE to me. But of course every swing is different and maybe a slower or very easy tempo would not notice the big difference that I do.

BTW, I will ALWAYS play good old x100s, great iron shaft IMO.

Tim

[BigNikeB]

[quote name='Tim Delgado' post='814063' date='Dec 6 2007, 02:18 AM'][quote name='golfer_junior' post='813793' date='Dec 5 2007, 08:46 PM']X-flex isn't really that much stiffer than a stiff. Its about feel.[/quote]



I havr hit my friend's s300s many times, and the difference between his shafts and my x100s is HUGE to me. But of course every swing is different and maybe a slower or very easy tempo would not notice the big difference that I do.

BTW, I will ALWAYS play good old x100s, great iron shaft IMO.

Tim
[/quote]

Tim, I totally agree with you! However, I'm playing Black Gold's right now and like to think they are a tad bit more accurate and tighter feeling. I'm not totally for sure that they are better or worse, but maybe just different...I don't know

[Bay1524]

From Tiger's Nike Golf Media Interview w/Kelly Tilghman. The entire interview is a good read on equipment. At the same time, I know very little about tips and parallel and tapered like the most of you so maybe it was more informative to me.

[url="http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/printstory.asp?iNewsID=513319&categoryID=505&pagenumber=4&month=12&year=2007"]http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/printstory....2&year=2007[/url]

Q. When you were a kid and your dad was fitting you, so to

speak, with different clubs and that sort of thing, did he

have that kind of knowledge? Did he get it? Did he go out

and acquire it, or was he just one of those kind of

equipment guys that wanted to know as much about it as he

could?

TIGER WOODS: Well, I think I got that from my dad, a

little bit nerdy in that sense. He felt he was average

build, 5'9", his arm length, and they did a ratio, did

measurements and did a ratio between what someone would be

at his height, with his length of club with all the clubs,

and then at my height, my length of arms and with my

length of clubs, what that would be, and did the whole

ratio and came out with certain numbers and length of

clubs.

As I grew we would add extensions in there, but as I told

dad that would throw my weighting off, had a

counterbalance effect to it. We only would do that

basically every half inch I would grow, add a counter

balance to it, and then we'd have to reshaft them. So

that's kind of how we did it. He created this whole ratio

thing that worked out, and I didn't have to make

adjustments where I saw the other kids did.

The only difference between what's available now and what

I grew up with was he had X shafts. [b]Well, X shafts cut

down to this length is like a quintuple X, you know? So I

had to generate all my speed, all my power myself. I

didn't have any help with the shaft. [/b]Nowadays kids can

have lighter graphite shafts that actually will play very

similar if not identical to what we play as adults. That

would be the only difference between how I grew up and how

the kids are growing up now.

[gregcindyh]

I played golf with a guy that played HS golf with TW at a Muni course in San Clemente this summer. He told me he was one of the only kids that played with x's and could back it up. We T'd it up on this par 4 dogleg left over this big canyon of trees and shrub, you could bareley see the flag, 363yds, he said TW hit that green in a HS tournament. He said TW was amazing for a High Schooler!

[gregcindyh]

I noticed your clubs with Black Gold DG's. Only shaft I haven't tried. Have you compared them with Rifle's? If so, why did you pick them over the Rifle's? The specs sound solid! Thanks, Greg

[SHERO]

I heard that Tiger had X1's when he was 3, he was playing full sized X1's when he was 14