Help finding P6

[oz dee cee]

Hope everyone is well.

 

Trying to find P6, can do it statically but not in motion. Any drills or recommendations welcomed.

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by oz dee cee
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[MonteScheinblum]

Everyone who isn’t in the position has bad pelvis movement in the backswing and/or transition and their arms are late in the sequence….usually both.
 

Have to address why you’re not there.  

Edited September 14, 2021 by MonteScheinblum

[oz dee cee]

Mmm, thanks for chiming in Monte. Tough gig this golf thing. 

[xmanhockey7]

Your P6 there looks really good. Unless ball flight is bad id stick with it. 

[Hackinator]

Did you ever figure out this P6 position?

 

Curious because this is the same position I have been trying to get to lately.

 

Shawn Clement has  good analogy of feeling like you are using a battering ram to smash open a door.

 

Been trying to do this, and it feels like I am taking the butt of club and send it just in front of my right thigh.

 

Then zipping the clubhead thru impact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 9/14/2021 at 5:57 PM, oz dee cee said:

Hope everyone is well.

 

Trying to find P6, can do it statically but not in motion. Any drills or recommendations welcomed.

 

 

 

[Hilts1969]

8 hours ago, Hackinator said:

Did you ever figure out this P6 position?

 

Curious because this is the same position I have been trying to get to lately.

 

Shawn Clement has  good analogy of feeling like you are using a battering ram to smash open a door.

 

Been trying to do this, and it feels like I am taking the butt of club and send it just in front of my right thigh.

 

Then zipping the clubhead thru impact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure how that feel is much different from pulling on the handle or the dreaded butt of club to a wall. I think the best way is to make a transition move where the P6 position becomes inevitable rather than sought. It’s not the destination you just pass through it.

 

 

[oz dee cee]

Still a work in progress. I progress then regress. Hilts1969 touches on some truths in saying it’s merely a position you must pass through. Hard to do at speed. 
 

And I believe I’m still not moving properly as Monte suggested so getting to this position is almost impossible to fake or force. 

[Hackinator]

I've  been trying to do this is as "1" move and keep everything seamless, but it is tough.

It kind of feel likes 2 moves stitched together.

 

But I hope w/ repetition everything blends together at some point and its just 1 fluid swing.

 

I realize now, I have been coming over plane for a long time, and also been too steep.  But trying to reverse years of steepness is hard to overcome.

 

However been monitoring club position in mirror and getting to P6 seems give me that shallow approach I need.

 

Shawn Clement uses battering ram analogy to nail the point.

 

 

[KMeloney]

I've found that I need supple wrists and "lag pressure" into my right hand (that keeps my right wrist bent) in order to get there. Trying to achieve it in slow motion is nearly impossible for me, because you aren't able to feel that pressure (you're feeling the weight of the clubhead being pulled down by gravity instead, and have to tense up your right wrist instead in order to hold the angle).

[Hilts1969]

4 hours ago, Hackinator said:

I've  been trying to do this is as "1" move and keep everything seamless, but it is tough.

It kind of feel likes 2 moves stitched together.

 

But I hope w/ repetition everything blends together at some point and its just 1 fluid swing.

 

I realize now, I have been coming over plane for a long time, and also been too steep.  But trying to reverse years of steepness is hard to overcome.

 

However been monitoring club position in mirror and getting to P6 seems give me that shallow approach I need.

 

Shawn Clement uses battering ram analogy to nail the point.

 

 

 

Some may need that who knows but I find that swing thought and look truly hideous. 

[Krt22]

Trying to find P6 without looking at P1-P5, is like trying to knock up your lady without first removing your pants

Edited January 20, 2022 by Krt22

[Hackinator]

Lol... I am speechless! 

 

5 hours ago, Krt22 said:

Trying to find P6 without looking at P1-P5, is like trying to knock up your lady without first removing your pants

 

[Hackinator]

 

 

 

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It is axiomatic that your golf swing will never be any better than your concept of what a good golf swing is, so rather than focusing on impact, the goal of the entire swing should be to arrive at P6 correctly because it is your gateway to power and accuracy.

 

[Kenjr1969]

Working on the P6 issue and find myself often going down the proverbial rabbit hole and continuously working on it to the detriment of other things, I think. I have been obsessing about the face on view of my swing when I know that my pelvis movement is all jacked up and obviously you can’t tell if the pelvis is moving correctly from the face on view. I need to start videoing the swing from both angles at the same time I think to get a better idea. Things that have improved things for me is doing what Monte talks about. Trying to get the hands accelerating earlier in the downswing and also at the same time keeping the shoulders closed as I am transitioning to give the arms time to get into position. I think though that like many teachers say the problems coming into impact are all a result of something that happened further back in the swing. I have also heard that once your hands are past p5.5 you brain cannot process a move fast enough to implement anything down at the ball. 

Edited June 22, 2023 by Kenjr1969