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I had the opportunity for the first time last week to practice in a trackman bay.  To see exactly what my numbers are, and to have hard information about speed, trajectory, and dispersion was AMAZING.  That being said, I'm excited to put my first WRX post up because of course, with more information comes more questions.  

 

My current gamer: Z785 10.5 head with a HZRDUS HC Black 75g 6.0

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Old gamer: M4 9.5 head with Aldila Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S

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Same M4 head with Aldila Rogue Black 95MSI 60S

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Trajectories:

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Immediate questions that come to mind:

1.  Face tends to be closed at impact with my gamer, and I'm looking to reduce spin.  Would setting my hosel to "-1deg loft, 2deg open" be a win-win in terms of doing both of those things? 

 

2.  Loved the feel of the Rogue Black.  I definitely felt faster with the lighter 60g weight, and the numbers certainly show as much.  Spin needs to come down.  What's a comparable shaft that would help me accomplish this if I were to, say, go and pull the trigger on a Stealth?  

 

3.  What other questions could I be asking?  

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

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I am by no means as knowledgeable as others here, but here's my two cents.

  • The Rogue 95 and HZRDUS produce largely the same numbers except for Face Angle and Face to Path.
  • Getting your spin numbers down should help. Adjusting loft down is a good place to start, but take it slowly as it also opens the club face so you could start losing balls to the right.
  • The fitter I worked with told me that the M4, M6, Sim Max, and Sim2 Max would spin more than the M3, M5, Sim, Sim2 respectively. I moved from Sim2 Max to Sim2 and found 300-500 rpm of spin improvement.
  • Before popping for a Stealth, you might try hitting/finding an M5 or Sim/Sim2 head at 9.0/9.5 or a Z785 or ZX7/ZX5 at 9.0/9.5 (not sure what the standard lofts are). Given some are older models, you should be able to find them for a lot less than a Stealth.

Keep us posted on what you decide. Good luck.

TaylorMade Stealth2+ 9° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 5-S

TaylorMade M5 15° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 6-S
Callaway CF-18 18° - KBS Tour Prototype 85 S
Srixon ZX5 4-AW - Nippon Modus3 105 R
Cleveland ZipCore 54° Mid and 58° Mid - DG Spinner
Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2 35"
Titleist Pro V1
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Interesting to see what you’re actually doing, isn’t it?
 

Your questions -

 

1. The effect to changing hosel settings tends to vary with the individual. That’s partly because when you address the ball, and say you’ve set the club for 2 degrees closed, you may the open the face to achieve what is visually the correct alignment. Try them yourself and see.

 

2. Your numbers and dispersion look more “comfortable” with the lighter shaft. Perhaps stay in the 60g range. You can balance launch angle and spin with the combination of club head characteristics and shaft flex distribution. The best combination of those is very difficult to guess at with any accuracy. That’s why we have launch monitors and club fitting.

 

3. What is my smash factor. It’s a measure of efficiency and requires your ball speed, which you don’t show. If I had to guess, yours appears to be rather low. At your swing speed, you are leaving a fair number of yards on the table at this point.

 

My hazy crystal ball says - A low spin head such as the Epic Max LS with an RDX Blue 60 S.

Driver - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 5S

FW - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 6S

Hybrid - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 7S

Irons - ZX5 / C-Taper Lite S

Wedges - SM9 50/08 56/10 60/04

Putter - Odyssey Ai-One Milled #7 T

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I would look at the Rogue silver, but lighter in weight. 

Callaway Ai Smoke TD 9* with Oban Isawa 55
Callaway Rogue ST LS 3hl and 5-wood with Aldila NVS
Callaway Ai smoke TD 7-wood with Aldila NVS
Callaway Ai Smoke 5h with Project X Cypher
Callaway Apex Pro  6-AW irons with Nippon Modus 105
Callaway Jaws Raw 52 with Nippon Modus 105
Callaway Jaws Raw 56 with Nippon Modus 105
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12 hours ago, jt2gt said:

I would think with SS at 100 you would get more out of your drives...not sure what the issue might be, but thinking 100 should be getting you 240 ish carry.

I thought the same. Ian from TXG uses 2.7 x driver speed for a quick distance check. 

Iron History: Macgregor blades -> Tour Model 3 -> 20 year hiatus -> Callaway Rogue (ugh) -> PtxPro -> P790 -> MP4 -> MP32 -> 623CB -> ZX5 mkII -> Cobra Tours

 

Dr: Titleist TSR3

3W: Ping G430 SFT

7W: Callaway Paradym

4H: Cobra King Tec

5-GW: Titleist T100

W: Edison 2.0

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