OEM Driver and Putter for 7y/o (Left Handed)

[Leftychamp]

40 minutes ago, Movingday said:

Sure winning matters, it’s a great skill to learn, but it doesn’t matter at 7. This is the problem with youth sports in our country currently. Too much emphasis put on winning and being “elite” from 5-12 years old and not enough emphasis on being kids. Younger ages should be about learning to have fun and build skills. Young Kids needing to travel the country to be “elite”, whether it be golf, AAU basketball, travel baseball, whatever the sport is the biggest misconception there is. Parents have been sold a bill of goods by the organizers of these tournaments  and have spent thousands of dollars making these people rich. These tournaments aren’t about the kids. They are about Joe Blow Scouting Director, or Tournament Director, convincing parents this is the only path to college so they can line their pockets. 

Using a full trophy case as justification for anything at that age is a poor argument. I would venture to say that all of those kids in the last group with their OEM heads, would still be in that last group with a US Kids or Prodig driver. 
 

We also over coach/train kids today imo. Let them do things naturally with little instruction and be athletes. Being an “athlete” is something that’s being lost on this generation 
 

 

Ok o’mighty one. Which age do you deign it matters….jeez all of you experts trying to identify the next stephano capriotti because ppl take things seriously enough to want to do them as well as they can. I haven’t volunteered to represent other parents who may or may not take their kids sporting achievements seriously. I made a point, that for the best kids, flushers, that an OEM driver head IS an improvement over standard issue. If blowhards want to disagree fine. If you aren’t going to use tournament results, scores, and data as a basis for your point, but rather point to a waste of money on clubs/travel and overbearing parents that short leash their children to tournaments, you are mixing arguments. 
Travel is an award unto itself, building skills and demonstrating them is confidence building. Golf is a particularly useful way of learning life skills and values, and I (nor my child) would trade our adventures because others didnt have imagination enough to find it useful. There are plenty of activities that award participation trophies, if that’s your thing by all means have a great time.

[Movingday]

58 minutes ago, Leftychamp said:

Ok o’mighty one. Which age do you deign it matters….jeez all of you experts trying to identify the next stephano capriotti because ppl take things seriously enough to want to do them as well as they can. I haven’t volunteered to represent other parents who may or may not take their kids sporting achievements seriously. I made a point, that for the best kids, flushers, that an OEM driver head IS an improvement over standard issue. If blowhards want to disagree fine. If you aren’t going to use tournament results, scores, and data as a basis for your point, but rather point to a waste of money on clubs/travel and overbearing parents that short leash their children to tournaments, you are mixing arguments. 
Travel is an award unto itself, building skills and demonstrating them is confidence building. Golf is a particularly useful way of learning life skills and values, and I (nor my child) would trade our adventures because others didnt have imagination enough to find it useful. There are plenty of activities that award participation trophies, if that’s your thing by all means have a great time.

Lol. I love how you immediately resort to stupid name calling for anyone that challenges your ideas. You commented on a forum with a vast amount of knowledge in the subject and completely discounted everyone’s opinions. You tell me who’s the “might one”
Im not sure the exact age is the same for everyone, but I would generally put it somewhere around puberty, late middle school maybe, but that could definitely be debated. 

I do not believe in participation trophies. Matter of fact one of my first comment was that winning matters. It’s just that at 7, there’s really no difference in winning a local championship, rec league title, or the world championship of uno. To the kid, a win, is a win, is a win. Only parents give a crap about the “what”. 
Traveling and having fun is awesome. Glad you have those memories. I just hope they are memories of the travel and not of chasing the “full trophy case”

[leezer99]

I think the callaway heads have always been popular in the junior circuits. My recommendation would be to loft up so you get that 14-18 degree launch at speeds under 80 mph. I wouldn’t stress about shafts. Just be wary of going too light… some kids swing faster with a slightly heavier shaft. Keeping the spin up will help keep the ball in the air for more carry. 

[Movingday]

2 hours ago, leezer99 said:

I think the callaway heads have always been popular in the junior circuits. My recommendation would be to loft up so you get that 14-18 degree launch at speeds under 80 mph. I wouldn’t stress about shafts. Just be wary of going too light… some kids swing faster with a slightly heavier shaft. Keeping the spin up will help keep the ball in the air for more carry. 

I have the ever popular Callaway XR16 head in 13.5 degrees available if anyone is interested 

[Leftychamp]

4 hours ago, leezer99 said:

I think the callaway heads have always been popular in the junior circuits. My recommendation would be to loft up so you get that 14-18 degree launch at speeds under 80 mph. I wouldn’t stress about shafts. Just be wary of going too light… some kids swing faster with a slightly heavier shaft. Keeping the spin up will help keep the ball in the air for more carry. 

There are more options in callaways for lefthanders. Our setup is 12 degree head turned up to 14. Rogue ST max. His swing speed is right at 70. The Flynn shaft we tried was too stiff. 

[Leftychamp]

6 hours ago, Movingday said:

Lol. I love how you immediately resort to stupid name calling for anyone that challenges your ideas. You commented on a forum with a vast amount of knowledge in the subject and completely discounted everyone’s opinions. You tell me who’s the “might one”
Im not sure the exact age is the same for everyone, but I would generally put it somewhere around puberty, late middle school maybe, but that could definitely be debated. 

I do not believe in participation trophies. Matter of fact one of my first comment was that winning matters. It’s just that at 7, there’s really no difference in winning a local championship, rec league title, or the world championship of uno. To the kid, a win, is a win, is a win. Only parents give a crap about the “what”. 
Traveling and having fun is awesome. Glad you have those memories. I just hope they are memories of the travel and not of chasing the “full trophy case”

As for the names I was trying to describe an overall theme in the comments, but I apologize.

I happen to believe there is a huge difference between winning a world championship and a local tour event. Certainly skill wise on a challenging setup (mid pines). There isn’t much point in playing locally, first because there are far too many tournaments, second is because kids can’t play up in age.  My son knows the difference between local and regional and world, although he has little concept of exactly how big the world is, but travel helps to illuminate. The pool scene is lit during these tournaments, and the kids have plenty of opportunity to be kids. There are kids who are pushed to take it far too seriously. Maybe they are wired that way as well. Mine is social and chatty on the course, so he is having fun. He also happens to be extremely competitive, and that is evident is soccer as well.

[heavy_hitter]

On 11/2/2022 at 5:03 AM, Leftychamp said:

As for the names I was trying to describe an overall theme in the comments, but I apologize.

I happen to believe there is a huge difference between winning a world championship and a local tour event. Certainly skill wise on a challenging setup (mid pines). There isn’t much point in playing locally, first because there are far too many tournaments, second is because kids can’t play up in age.  My son knows the difference between local and regional and world, although he has little concept of exactly how big the world is, but travel helps to illuminate. The pool scene is lit during these tournaments, and the kids have plenty of opportunity to be kids. There are kids who are pushed to take it far too seriously. Maybe they are wired that way as well. Mine is social and chatty on the course, so he is having fun. He also happens to be extremely competitive, and that is evident is soccer as well.

There are more kids that have won the world championships and left golf than there are playing on the PGA tour.  Yeah, it means little to nothing at 7.

[Leftychamp]

5 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

There are more kids that have won the world championships and left golf than there are playing on the PGA tour.  Yeah, it means little to nothing at 7.

You can dice that up however you wish. It’s a special kind of arrogance exhibited when something holds no value to you, it must be so. Kids can and will do what they wish when they’ve grown is the only value your comment merits. Thanks for that. Continue on your regularly scheduled naysayer world tour.

[AC168]

OEM is probably better quality, but getting the club to be fit properly is a major headache.  Probably easier just to use US Kids or Flynn or someone similar.

[AC168]

On 10/21/2022 at 6:26 PM, Movingday said:

We play with a current PGA players son quite a bit in the summer. 10 years old and playing ping prodig 

 

I had heard (not seen) CW played with Ping Prodi G for a while also before his TV appearances