NEW Monte Power Shift Video - Wow!

[Rdailey9108]

37 minutes ago, GoTime said:

@MonteScheinblum

 

Monte - saw on your IG that someone asked if some of these concepts are close to or related to Stack and Tilt, to which you said no.

 

I don't think anyone would argue with you there, but since that nugget has been put into my head and I'm an over thinker, can you elaborate at all on what you see the fundamental differences are so that my over analyzing brain can get rid of that thought?

Because there is a pressure shift to the trail side first it's not stack and tilt I'm assuming.

[games]

Watch the last lesson with Vince to understand why S&T is a bandaid, not a solution.

[Cmart050]

21 hours ago, Ex Blade User said:

Hips still square at impact looks like a slide but hands are in much better spot 

 

I like to think being flat footed and bow legged gives off the appearance of sliding more than I am!

 

The hips can be square at impact, no? I thought that how open the hips are depends on golfer, and good sequencing puts the hips where they need to be at impact. 

[MonteScheinblum]

4 hours ago, GoTime said:

@MonteScheinblum

 

Monte - saw on your IG that someone asked if some of these concepts are close to or related to Stack and Tilt, to which you said no.

 

I don't think anyone would argue with you there, but since that nugget has been put into my head and I'm an over thinker, can you elaborate at all on what you see the fundamental differences are so that my over analyzing brain can get rid of that thought?

I’ll give you two.  I want an initial shift to the right. I want the hand path less in.

PS-SnT is not what many think it is.  It’s been vilified unfairly by too many.

Edited February 27, 2023 by MonteScheinblum

[mstuewe]

I went through power shift this morning and tried to incorporate the changes.  Im a high swing speed player who flips at impact, launches it in the air, and lose a ton of distance because of the flip.  For example, my 8 iron efficiency is around 1.2, swing speed of 95 but only hit it 158 with a descent angle of 55 because my launch angle is 23 or 24 degrees.

 

I worked on some feels from the power shift video today and I hit 2 bullet 8 irons over 180 yards.  Launch was 19 degrees.  Ball just took off on my GC2 like a rocket with little movement.

 

I spent the rest of the afternoon chasing that feeling.  Never got close but I was down to around 21 degrees the rest of the practice session.  Now im going to be chasing that low launch high speed 8 iron the rest of my life.

[medic170979]

This thread convinced me to purchase the series… very happy with the purchase thus far. Some great drills and thoughts to help feel the proper shift!

Edited February 27, 2023 by medic170979

[Ex Blade User]

1 hour ago, Cmart050 said:

 

I like to think being flat footed and bow legged gives off the appearance of sliding more than I am!

 

The hips can be square at impact, no? I thought that how open the hips are depends on golfer, and good sequencing puts the hips where they need to be at impact. 

Find a picture of a good golfer with hips square with shoulders and ball at impact   I’m not saying 45 degrees open but they all have open 

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Find a picture of a good golfer with hips square with shoulders and ball at impact   I’m not saying 45 degrees open but they all have open 

 

You can find several with the shoulders pretty square (even slightly closed) at impact. And I'm defining "good" here as "Tour players."

 

The ribs (or chest), though, that's a different story.

 

Edit to add:

 

 

Tour players aren't always the greatest examples of things. Some of them do some weird stuff.

Edited February 27, 2023 by iacas

[tthomasgolfer605]

14 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Find a picture of a good golfer with hips square with shoulders and ball at impact   I’m not saying 45 degrees open but they all have open 

Done. 

[coops]

12 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Find a picture of a good golfer with hips square with shoulders and ball at impact   I’m not saying 45 degrees open but they all have open 

 

Seems like impressive improvement by Cmartfor a short time of doing some drills to me... irons are going to be a lot less open if at all aren't they?

 

Just comparing Cmart to this other hack just slightly after impact 😉

 

 

Pic from the top google result I got to the query "golfers iron impact position head on"

"3 signs of an elite impact position"

https://golf.com/instruction/impact-position-golf-signs/

 

[MonteScheinblum]

12 hours ago, Ex Blade User said:

Find a picture of a good golfer with hips square with shoulders and ball at impact   I’m not saying 45 degrees open but they all have open 

These guys won $2.5 million yesterday.  As golfers we have to stop judging our swings by ridiculous arbitrary standards like open hips and lag.  How much these things happen is individual and more is not better.  Positive change is a global thing, not nitpicking 1 metric and saying the improvement is diminished by the shortcoming of one metric.  I had a post on Instagram this week where a setup change completely change his swing and someone commented that he was now across the line.  He was, by like 2*, but his hand path improved significantly as did path and club speed.  It’s like telling someone who lost 20 pounds that the back of their pants are now crinkled at the belt line because the belt is now 3 notches tighter.  That’s without even saying you can’t fix everything at once.  He couldn’t rotate because his arms were trailing and that’s what his body is used to doing.  The change was a day ago and his body hasn’t had time to adapt.

Edited February 27, 2023 by MonteScheinblum

[Ex Blade User]

Ok there’s one of the guy in yellow! 
 

all the others are open a little at least. Funny how you say don’t make comments on swings with still photos yet you all used still photos to “prove” me wrong. 
 

I was just making a comment which was positive about the change then saying but your hips look like a slide. Which they do. 

[Ex Blade User]

11 hours ago, iacas said:

 

You can find several with the shoulders pretty square (even slightly closed) at impact. And I'm defining "good" here as "Tour players."

 

The ribs (or chest), though, that's a different story.

 

Edit to add:

 

 

Tour players aren't always the greatest examples of things. Some of them do some weird stuff.

He’s not that extreme, the camera has moved a little look at the trees on the right. Def more to the left in second photo, right??

[iacas]

36 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

He’s not that extreme, the camera has moved a little look at the trees on the right. Def more to the left in second photo, right??

The camera didn’t move.

[Ex Blade User]

8 minutes ago, iacas said:

The camera didn’t move.

Different zoom levels then?

Edited February 27, 2023 by Ex Blade User

[iacas]

23 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Different zoom levels then?

No. And this afternoon I’ll post GEARS data showing closed to square shoulders for a number of Tour players.

[MPStrat]

please delete 

Edited February 27, 2023 by MPStrat
Haven’t had my coffee yet lol

[Ex Blade User]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

No. And this afternoon I’ll post GEARS data showing closed to square shoulders for a number of Tour players.

Ok was asking a legit question nicely because the tree lines are obviously different to anyone that can see. 
 

I’m talking about square hips not shoulders or hips square to shoulders and target line not shoulders. 
 

internet rumors can be true

Edited February 27, 2023 by Ex Blade User

[MPStrat]

of the top 100 in the OWGR would you say square-ish hips with closed shoulders is the norm or an outlier move? 

Edited February 27, 2023 by MPStrat

[mstuewe]

Im really fascinated by power shift, but also still working on what I learned from no turn cast.

 

@MonteScheinblum do you have any thoughts on combining the heel toe heel drill with the counter top drill?  Seems like these 2 could naturally fit together.  

 

Pressure on trail heel during backswing, pressure on lead toe during backswing, pressure on lead heel down to parallel (counter top), rotate through impact.

 

does that make sense?  

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Ex Blade User said:

Ok was asking a legit question nicely because the tree lines are obviously different to anyone that can see.

The camera doesn't move. You do know that trees can move when there's a breeze, right? 😄

 

 

And you said the hips were "hips square with shoulders and the ball" so… it's not a coincidence that you got a bunch of people with closed to square shoulders as images. You weren't very clear.

 

I'll save the GEARS images for now.

[Ex Blade User]

1 minute ago, iacas said:

The camera doesn't move. You do know that trees can move when there's a breeze, right? 😄

 

 

And you said the hips were "hips square with shoulders and the ball" so… it's not a coincidence that you got a bunch of people with closed to square shoulders as images. You weren't very clear.

 

I'll save the GEARS images for now.

Didnt realize a breeze can move a whole tree. Especially the whole line of trees in the far background.  Wow!!

 

yea that’s what I said and every single photo people posted except the one I called out the hips are open to the shoulders even if slightly. So not sure what you’re arguing here but keep going if it floats your boat. 

[iacas]

5 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

Didnt realize a breeze can move a whole tree. Especially the whole line of trees in the far background.  Wow!!

 

The camera doesn't move, dude. Look at the lines I drew to mark the locations. I draw them at setup, copy them to the right side, and they don't move. Including the crane WAY out in the distance.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Ex Blade User said:

yea that’s what I said and every single photo people posted except the one I called out the hips are open to the shoulders even if slightly. So not sure what you’re arguing here but keep going if it floats your boat. 

 

What you wrote was clear as mud. That's why you got so many people showing you that pros could arrive at impact with the shoulders closed.

Edited February 27, 2023 by iacas

[GungHoGolf]

5 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

These guys won $2.5 million yesterday.  As golfers we have to stop judging our swings by ridiculous arbitrary standards like open hips and lag.  How much these things happen is individual and more is not better.  Positive change is a global thing, not nitpicking 1 metric and saying the improvement is diminished by the shortcoming of one metric.  I had a post on Instagram this week where a setup change completely change his swing and someone commented that he was now across the line.  He was, by like 2*, but his hand path improved significantly as did path and club speed.  It’s like telling someone who lost 20 pounds that the back of their pants are now crinkled at the belt line because the belt is now 3 notches tighter.  That’s without even saying you can’t fix everything at once.  He couldn’t rotate because his arms were trailing and that’s what his body is used to doing.  The change was a day ago and his body hasn’t had time to adapt.

Nice find. Loved Cole’s swing. Those hips are a good matchup for their big draws, yes?

[MonteScheinblum]

1 hour ago, mstuewe said:

Im really fascinated by power shift, but also still working on what I learned from no turn cast.

 

@MonteScheinblum do you have any thoughts on combining the heel toe heel drill with the counter top drill?  Seems like these 2 could naturally fit together.  

 

Pressure on trail heel during backswing, pressure on lead toe during backswing, pressure on lead heel down to parallel (counter top), rotate through impact.

 

does that make sense?  

I’m not big fan of combining drills and working on more than one thing at a time.

[MonteScheinblum]

24 minutes ago, GungHoGolf said:

Nice find. Loved Cole’s swing. Those hips are a good matchup for their big draws, yes?

Either.

[trilerian]

@MonteScheinblum

 

I purchased the new video, some good stuff in there.  But you already know that, lol.

Anyway, my last lesson with you, yes it has been awhile but I am still working on the same thing, you had me exaggerate the shift into my right side to help get my right hip back instead of my left.  Is this something I should still be trying to do?  This has kind of become my focus, whereas the new series seems to want my hands to start it all. 

 

 

 

[MonteScheinblum]

50 minutes ago, trilerian said:

@MonteScheinblum

 

I purchased the new video, some good stuff in there.  But you already know that, lol.

Anyway, my last lesson with you, yes it has been awhile but I am still working on the same thing, you had me exaggerate the shift into my right side to help get my right hip back instead of my left.  Is this something I should still be trying to do?  This has kind of become my focus, whereas the new series seems to want my hands to start it all. 

 

 

 

Keep doing it until it’s automatic 

[mstuewe]

6 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

I’m not big fan of combining drills and working on more than one thing at a time.

You broke my brain.  I was definitely combing start and stop, countertop, and heel toe heel into one today and had great results.  But you’re the expert so I’ll follow this advice. 

[Ex Blade User]

19 hours ago, iacas said:

 

The camera doesn't move, dude. Look at the lines I drew to mark the locations. I draw them at setup, copy them to the right side, and they don't move. Including the crane WAY out in the distance.

 

 

 

What you wrote was clear as mud. That's why you got so many people showing you that pros could arrive at impact with the shoulders closed.

So then the shot in the right is zoomed in different like I said. It’s not debateable that the trees are different in the background because of the different zoom levels but that keeps the lines the same. It’s not a personal attack dude. Facepalm

 

and still I said hips square with shoulders and ball at impact….that’s crystal clear as anything and STILL all the photos show hips slightly open to shoulders and ball except one. Not really computing why you don't see this except your need to be “right”. 
 

Great video BTW monte. I have all of them and really like this as a compliment to NTC 

Edited February 28, 2023 by Ex Blade User