Private Clubs Tampa

[Robber6656]

Love Belleair. Really like the West. If I lived in Clearwater/Sand key that’s where I would be. Wasn’t the West renovated last year? We were at Innisbrook last October and  couldn’t get on. The two prior years we were able to get out and we were treated extremely well. The Pro and his staff are the best. You’re at a great club.

[F.Eddie]

 

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Edited September 22, 2020 by F.Eddie
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[F.Eddie]

On 9/13/2020 at 11:45 AM, argoodman said:

In the Tampa Bay Area, there are only 2-3 private courses that are difficult to get on.  I used lust after playing at Old Memorial, Palma Ceia or Avila.  That is not how I play golf anymore.  5 hour rounds of golf and losing time to be with my family is not my objective.

 

I think it all comes down to what you want.  I am a member at Belleair.  I can take my six year old anytime to the driving range without other members angrily glaring.  In the afternoon, we can easily play holes and not be concerned when 3 holes is enough.  It is a good, golf family environment.  I wanted a club where I can jump in a cart, practice easily, play easily and not be concerned about caddies.

 

PS. They have 36 holes.

Thanks for the info.  Sounds fantastic.  What is the cost to join Belleair for full golf membership? Monthly fees?

 

Edited September 22, 2020 by F.Eddie

[Robber6656]

They used to have it on their website or give them a call. They’ve always been great when I called for access.

Edited September 22, 2020 by Robber6656

[DKTPA]

Wondering if Bellaire has a waiting list and what the current initiation and dues look like.

[jerebear21]

At this point, every private club in tampa bay has a waitlist so it seems.... even the member/guest at OM has a waitlist to play.... I've never seen it this bad in 10 years.  You're better off hawking a public tee time so you don't have to pay the initiation fee.  

Edited September 26, 2021 by jerebear21

[Robber6656]

On 9/26/2021 at 6:00 AM, jerebear21 said:

At this point, every private club in tampa bay has a waitlist so it seems.... even the member/guest at OM has a waitlist to play.... I've never seen it this bad in 10 years.  You're better off hawking a public tee time so you don't have to pay the initiation fee.  

Pretty much true of the entire state. Best thing to happen to golf clubs was Covid. Sad but true.

[ilikegolf26]

On 9/26/2021 at 6:00 AM, jerebear21 said:

At this point, every private club in tampa bay has a waitlist so it seems.... even the member/guest at OM has a waitlist to play.... I've never seen it this bad in 10 years.  You're better off hawking a public tee time so you don't have to pay the initiation fee.  

Pretty much this. I just checked in on a club that, probably 6-7 years ago was begging you to join. Now it’s $20k initiation and $500+/month for a JUNIOR member.  It’s gotten absolutely nuts down here in the last 18-24 months.  Your best bet is to buy a house in one of the master planned communities around Lakewood Ranch that come with golf membership in the HOA. Only problem there is I’m told most of them are packed with casual players and, from my experience, not really walkable. 

Edited September 29, 2021 by ilikegolf26

[thatsagimme]

On 9/28/2021 at 9:46 PM, ilikegolf26 said:

Pretty much this. I just checked in on a club that, probably 6-7 years ago was begging you to join. Now it’s $20k initiation and $500+/month for a JUNIOR member.  It’s gotten absolutely nuts down here in the last 18-24 months.  Your best bet is to buy a house in one of the master planned communities around Lakewood Ranch that come with golf membership in the HOA. Only problem there is I’m told most of them are packed with casual players and, from my experience, not really walkable. 

 

That's a good take for HOAs with included golf memberships. Do you happen to have a list of golf communities in the area that fall in that bucket?

[ilikegolf26]

1 hour ago, thatsagimme said:

 

That's a good take for HOAs with included golf memberships. Do you happen to have a list of golf communities in the area that fall in that bucket?

Not a list but Lakewood National and Azario at Esplanade Lakewood Ranch are two that come to mind. Lakewood National actually has two courses, one of which hosts a Korn Ferry event. 

[jerebear21]

I don't believe there are many new builds left at lakewood nationals but if you want to pay the reselling price it's available.  A buddy of mine wanted to buy in a couple years back when HOA and golf dues were tied in(a townhome was in the 180s range; now in the high 300s range). It was rather very affordable. From what I remember, around 600 per month for HOA and golf dues, not carts included with a very reasonable food minimum.  I will say Azario isn't on the same level as the national.  They may be across the street from each other but the national, particularly commander, is a much superior golf course/design/conditions.  

 

Folks in StPete are being pushed out by outsiders.  Recent news of Cathie Woods bringing her HQ down to stpete will push prices of clubs/housing even more, considering the type of folks that are coming down with her.  My best man, a senior at guggenheim, is working remotely in clearwater beach and his rent is half that of manhattan, but still twice that of the average st pete mortgage 2-3 years ago.  It's absurd.  Innisbrook may be the best bet for a membership in pinellas county, but if you want a private experience, I think the days of low initiation and abundance is over.  My club is on waitlist with 5x the initiation that I paid for when I joined.  It's not really fair for natives here. And those looking to join, good luck.  

[ilikegolf26]

57 minutes ago, jerebear21 said:

I don't believe there are many new builds left at lakewood nationals but if you want to pay the reselling price it's available.  A buddy of mine wanted to buy in a couple years back when HOA and golf dues were tied in(a townhome was in the 180s range; now in the high 300s range). It was rather very affordable. From what I remember, around 600 per month for HOA and golf dues, not carts included with a very reasonable food minimum.  I will say Azario isn't on the same level as the national.  They may be across the street from each other but the national, particularly commander, is a much superior golf course/design/conditions.  

 

Folks in StPete are being pushed out by outsiders.  Recent news of Cathie Woods bringing her HQ down to stpete will push prices of clubs/housing even more, considering the type of folks that are coming down with her.  My best man, a senior at guggenheim, is working remotely in clearwater beach and his rent is half that of manhattan, but still twice that of the average st pete mortgage 2-3 years ago.  It's absurd.  Innisbrook may be the best bet for a membership in pinellas county, but if you want a private experience, I think the days of low initiation and abundance is over.  My club is on waitlist with 5x the initiation that I paid for when I joined.  It's not really fair for natives here. And those looking to join, good luck.  

Pinellas, Manatee and Sarasota counties will be ruined by outsiders within the next 5-10 years (I’d say Pinellas already has been and Manatee is getting very close with a new development popping up on every single piece of vacant land).

 

The entire state will fall after that once these northeasterners and  Californians bring their voting habits to the state.  Cathie should have kept her Ponzi scheme whereever she started it. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by ilikegolf26

[jerebear21]

I think for the most part folks in central florida are very level, even those who move here understand why it's so great to be in Pinellas County. Let's not be political about it. We are all neighbors. 

 

I'm all for Ms. Cathie.  There should be more females leading the way in the equity realm.  She's bringing tech, innovation and about 50B to the St Pete area.  Folks in St Pete should be thankful.  

 

I strongly suggest hawking the public tee time and once a year go to sand valley, bandon or dare I say, STREAMSONG, for a couple days.  You're not going to get any value in Tampa Bay right now.  

[ilikegolf26]

57 minutes ago, jerebear21 said:

I think for the most part folks in central florida are very level, even those who move here understand why it's so great to be in Pinellas County. Let's not be political about it. We are all neighbors. 

 

I'm all for Ms. Cathie.  There should be more females leading the way in the equity realm.  She's bringing tech, innovation and about 50B to the St Pete area.  Folks in St Pete should be thankful.  

 

I strongly suggest hawking the public tee time and once a year go to sand valley, bandon or dare I say, STREAMSONG, for a couple days.  You're not going to get any value in Tampa Bay right now.  

$50 billion? She manages like $78 billion in suckers’ funds. The TB Times article reported it would be a projected $26 million in economic impact through 2026. I’m not sure where you get $50 billion from. Also, the city of St. Pete DONATED the land to Ark. They couldn’t have at least paid for their own land?
 

Who cares if she’s a man or a woman? Who cares what genitalia the people leading the scams that are private equity firms have? Man or woman, winner or loser at the end of the year, they’re still going to get their fees and underperform the S&P in the long run. Cathie is just a better marketer than most of her counterparts. 
 

But yes, as far as golf there wasn’t really anywhere worth playing in Pinellas anyway (other than Innisbrook and maybe Pelican?) so, in terms of golf, the people will just have to pay more to play inferior courses to what’s down in Manatee and Sarasota.  I’m thankful I moved out of Pinellas two years ago. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by ilikegolf26

[jerebear21]

You got to slow down my man.  There will be plenty of folks coming down and bringing their money to St Pete.  It's always good for business.  Got to be more open-minded.  Plenty of private equity firms have out performed the S&P index.  

 

No need to be upset about outsiders.  We had this entire paradise for a very long time until recently.  

[Robber6656]

On 10/7/2021 at 7:22 AM, jerebear21 said:

I don't believe there are many new builds left at lakewood nationals but if you want to pay the reselling price it's available.  A buddy of mine wanted to buy in a couple years back when HOA and golf dues were tied in(a townhome was in the 180s range; now in the high 300s range). It was rather very affordable. From what I remember, around 600 per month for HOA and golf dues, not carts included with a very reasonable food minimum.  I will say Azario isn't on the same level as the national.  They may be across the street from each other but the national, particularly commander, is a much superior golf course/design/conditions.  

 

Folks in StPete are being pushed out by outsiders.  Recent news of Cathie Woods bringing her HQ down to stpete will push prices of clubs/housing even more, considering the type of folks that are coming down with her.  My best man, a senior at guggenheim, is working remotely in clearwater beach and his rent is half that of manhattan, but still twice that of the average st pete mortgage 2-3 years ago.  It's absurd.  Innisbrook may be the best bet for a membership in pinellas county, but if you want a private experience, I think the days of low initiation and abundance is over.  My club is on waitlist with 5x the initiation that I paid for when I joined.  It's not really fair for natives here. And those looking to join, good luck.  

Covid has been great for golf. Not so much for golfers

[Robber6656]

Outsider’s? That’s funny. I love Florida, own a place in Florida and never realized I was an outsider. 

[jerebear21]

21 minutes ago, Robber6656 said:

Outsider’s? That’s funny. I love Florida, own a place in Florida and never realized I was an outsider. 

no one calling you an outsider bud. I been here 30 years already and still here.  It was more a general statement like how my best man is residing in Clearwater beach cuz Guggenheim gave their senior investment bankers a reason to not pay manhattan prices. Cost of living is being reflected. 

[Robber6656]

20 hours ago, jerebear21 said:

no one calling you an outsider bud. I been here 30 years already and still here.  It was more a general statement like how my best man is residing in Clearwater beach cuz Guggenheim gave their senior investment bankers a reason to not pay manhattan prices. Cost of living is being reflected. 

Naples isn't cheap either. I live most of the year in NY. It's not the prices, it's the ridiculous taxes we pay in NY. Throw on another 3% for NYC. It's a joke here. The best realtor in Florida was Cuomo until he got his unwanted hand caught up numerous skirts.  Wall Street will soon be relocated to Miami.

 

Florida is mostly made up of outsiders. Most of the people I meet there weren't born and raised there. 

[scottc25]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:26 AM, Robber6656 said:

Florida is mostly made up of outsiders. Most of the people I meet there weren't born and raised there. 

 

Exactly this. The only people most of us know who are from Florida are our kids!

[jerebear21]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:26 AM, Robber6656 said:

Naples isn't cheap either. I live most of the year in NY. It's not the prices, it's the ridiculous taxes we pay in NY. Throw on another 3% for NYC. It's a joke here. The best realtor in Florida was Cuomo until he got his unwanted hand caught up numerous skirts.  Wall Street will soon be relocated to Miami.

 

Florida is mostly made up of outsiders. Most of the people I meet there weren't born and raised there. 

 

 

this is actually kind of funny, my wife and I are heading to NY this december to look for real estate in manhattan.  I still think the city has a lot to offer 6 months a year.  

[ilikegolf26]

On 10/31/2021 at 7:39 AM, jerebear21 said:

 

 

this is actually kind of funny, my wife and I are heading to NY this december to look for real estate in manhattan.  I still think the city has a lot to offer 6 months a year.  

lol why?

[jerebear21]

2 minutes ago, ilikegolf26 said:

lol why?

 

my wife's from the yale area and spent her first half of life in the NYC area.  Prices are low right now.  It was always a play to spend half the year in NYC and the other half in StPete. Don't let the media tear us apart.  We are all neighbors and there are some mint clubs in the westchester area.  

[Robber6656]

You’re like a fish swimming up stream. Make sure you spend less than 6 months in NYS. Everyone one I know in NYC is looking to leave or has left. There should be some great deals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jibbs1082]

Hypothetically, if you had the option to squeeze in 18 at Bellaire, Pelican or Concession, which would you choose?

 

 

[Robber6656]

10 hours ago, jibbs1082 said:

Hypothetically, if you had the option to squeeze in 18 at Bellaire, Pelican or Concession, which would you choose?

 

 

Concession, BTW there are two courses at Belleair. East and West. I like the West more than the East. Both worth playing.  I would like to play Pelican just to see what they did to the place. I used to play there when it was the Belleview Biltmore.

[theglide]

On 1/12/2022 at 8:10 AM, Robber6656 said:

Concession, BTW there are two courses at Belleair. East and West. I like the West more than the East. Both worth playing.  I would like to play Pelican just to see what they did to the place. I used to play there when it was the Belleview Biltmore.

This, exactly. 

Watched the Pelican lpga tourney just to see biltmore reimagined.  Ha

[scottc25]

Easily Concession AINEC.

[benkodi]

If we are talking present day, it’s Pelican by a mile.   

The Concession is in awful shape currently while Pelican is absolutely flawless.   

[Schley]

What about Innsbrook?😁