Tour AD DI vs BB vs MT vs MJ

can anyone summarize what the differences are between these shafts? I'm getting little confused over the specs on their website. This forum has little info on some of the shafts and they are not compiled and all over the places.... spin, flight, feel, etc.... Thanks!

Bb-di-mt From lowest to highest spin and launch. Feel is a personal thing but the di is the next best thing to God

i played the addi in driver and fairways for a while, but then switched over to the adbb lower spin and stiffer tip and the blue looks a lot cooler too

I have the di in former driver and 3 wood it's a good stick I think the bb would fit me better. All depends on your feel and launch and spin you produce I'd suggest hoping on track man with them. Also I think the combo with whatever head you use is important with these.

DI - mid - high / high launch / low-mid spin

BB - low - mid launch / low-mid spin stiffer tip and higher kick point

MT - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (lower torque than MJ) stiffer mid / softer tip than DI

MJ - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (higher torque than MT) softer tip than MJ / stiffer mid-butt

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DI - mid - high / high launch / low-mid spin

BB - low - mid launch / low-mid spin stiffer tip and higher kick point

MT - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (lower torque than MJ) stiffer mid / softer tip than DI

MJ - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (higher torque than MT) softer tip than MJ / stiffer mid-butt
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The above pretty much sums it up...

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[quote name='FourWiggle' timestamp='1424542188' post='10998533']
DI - mid - high / high launch / low-mid spin

BB - low - mid launch / low-mid spin stiffer tip and higher kick point

MT - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (lower torque than MJ) stiffer mid / softer tip than DI

MJ - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (higher torque than MT) softer tip than MJ / stiffer mid-butt
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The above pretty much sums it up, the only caveat I would include is that the MJ is made from 50-ton graphite, while I'm pretty sure the others are all 40-ton. When I demoed all 4 of these, there definitely was a "tighter" feel to the MJ, despite having its own unique bend profile.
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Thanks for reply. so does it feel little bit smoother than others?

Watch this.. the best parts start around 2:10 into it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zLZ5C1GeHI

[quote name='cadman88' timestamp='1424573414' post='11001477']Watch this.. the best parts start around 2:10 into it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zLZ5C1GeHI[/quote]
Flight scope numbers are all over the place.

I have a DI6x and BB6x for my 915 D3. I can say that BB is lower launch (1-2*) and lower spin (200-300 rpm)
The BB does feel a stiffer but still very smooth. I have changed my swing (much more shallow) that I needed to put the DI back in since the BB was too much low spin for me. I'll put the BB in my 3 wood.

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[quote name='pleepers303' timestamp='1424547820' post='10998955']
[quote name='FourWiggle' timestamp='1424542188' post='10998533']
DI - mid - high / high launch / low-mid spin

BB - low - mid launch / low-mid spin stiffer tip and higher kick point

MT - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (lower torque than MJ) stiffer mid / softer tip than DI

MJ - mid - mid-high launch / low-mid spin (higher torque than MT) softer tip than MJ / stiffer mid-butt
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The above pretty much sums it up, the only caveat I would include is that the MJ is made from 50-ton graphite, while I'm pretty sure the others are all 40-ton. When I demoed all 4 of these, there definitely was a "tighter" feel to the MJ, despite having its own unique bend profile.
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Thanks for reply. so does it feel little bit smoother than others?
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Not really. The trademark characteristic of GD shafts is the that ultra smooth "glassy" feel to them. At least that is the only way I can describe them. What makes the MJ stand out from the others though is that it seems to be a little "tighter" dispersion-wise.

I've been using the DI-6 Stiff in my Titleist 913 D3 for about 2 years and it was one of the most stable best feeling shafts I owned.

Then I decided to buy a SLDR 11*, 430 head and wasn't happy with the DI's performance in this heavy head. I replaced the 16 gram weight with a 12 gram and got the S/W down to D3, still feels odd in the SLDR.

Last October, I picked up a BB7 and MT7 and have been trying them in the SLDR, while I'm in here in the Palm Springs area for a couple of months. The MT-7 (Yellow) is tip soft and feels whippy, it also launches a bit lower than the DI. I put the BB-7 back in the SLDR today and hit the practice range, the blue bomb, feels like it loads up and kicks more than the DI and MT, it also has a very piercing trajectory, which works great in the windy conditions here in the desert and back home. Based on my experience and testing of the 3 shafts that I have, I'm leaning towards the BB. I have no first hand experience with the MJ, perhaps someone here can advise further.

after watching that video; those are some [b]huge[/b] carry numbers for that SS and BS.

I have the DI in 7S and the BB in 6x since my swing speed is right around the 103-108 mark. I hate being between flexes but I feel that between those two I should have a winner. The DI seems to be smoother but the BB is very stable throughout. I'll need to sit on the range for a day to see exactly how each one works and which one I prefer. I tried the DI over the weekend and liked it but I was having trouble feeling the head (SLDR 430)

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Bb-di-mt From lowest to highest spin and launch. Feel is a personal thing but the di is the next best thing to God
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I have hit the DI and the MT, not the BB. The MT is DEFINITELY a tad lower launching than the DI. its inbetween the BB and DI.

I played the ADDI 7s and now play the ADMT 6X. Both in a Ping G25. Launch was lower which i was looking for and the dispersion is where you will see all the difference in the world. My dispersion tightened up wiht the MT BIG TIME. I think its because its stiffer in the mid section than the DI.... Thats the biggest difference i have seen in the shafts. Both have that great GD feel....

I just purchased the MJ 8x for my 915....I should have it tipped and gripped by next weekend. I will share my thoughts on it after my first round.

If you're getting a new driver, find the shaft that feels best to you, then pick a driver head with the loft that gives you the launch you want (makes no sense to use the shaft to tweak launch if you're buying a new driver, much easier to do that with driver loft). If retrofitting a head you already have (especially if it's non-adjustable), then the above mentioned shaft characteristics matter. The whole 50-ton thing is meaningless, doesn't effect dispersion, just changes the feel slightly.

The mt is amazing much better than the bb

I'm thinking DI vs MJ might be what it comes down to for me, I'm looking for a high launch shaft, but in a pretty low spin driver head I don't know if I'd want a shaft with low spin as well. Would the MJ be the ticket then?

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I'm thinking DI vs MJ might be what it comes down to for me, I'm looking for a high launch shaft, but in a pretty low spin driver head I don't know if I'd want a shaft with low spin as well. Would the MJ be the ticket then?
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Depends on what your spin is. Just because the head is low spin, doesn't mean you'll have low spin when you hit it. Pretty much impossible to armchair fit a driver...

Pro's Choice has a great graphic on the spin and launch differences between all of the Graphite Design shafts.

[attachment=2793074:Tour-AD-Wood-Fitting-Guide-6-1-15.pdf]

I live in Vancouver Canada lol nooooorth area than Palm Spring.
I have DI6X, BB6X and DJ 7S 1" tipped driver shaft for my 915 D3 9.5. I use BB7S in 915F 3W and DJ 7X in 913 F 5W.
Now I am selling my BB6X because......
For me I am sure I can load the DI6X pretty well but I cannot even load the BB6X. Honestly when I decided to buy the BB6X I thought I was a high launch golfer but after I test it I knew I was wrong... My swing speed is 105-107 consistantly. I play DI6X in summer with 13.5 degree launch angle. That spec provide a pretty good result. But when I use my BB6X, the launch angle drops for about 4 degree. Jizzzzzzz..... I feel the tip on BB6X is too stiff that I cannot hold it. I feel the tip is much stiffer in BB than that in DI. Besides, BB shaft become stiffer and stiffer from butt to tip. So it has a huge difference between DI 6X and BB6X. But a very interesting thing is I get optimum result with my BB7S on my 915F 3 wood. When the stiffness drops to S from X, BB becomes so smooth and I feel the energy can be transferred very efficiently from my body to the club head. That promotes constant 270 yards 3 wood tee shot.

Based on my test result, BB seems has lower spin rate than DI, DI is actually no high launch/low spin, I would rate it as mid/high launch and low/mid spin，not as some advertisements said the magic high launch/low spin. But all Graphite Design shafts are very smooth.

Cheers

Ronnie

Agree with Ronnie on the BB being more stiff feeling than the DI. The DI loads much easier and feels softer. If you have tried the DI and it feels whippy, then the BB would be good to try. If the DI feels great, but you want to bring down launch or spin, then I wouldn't go with the BB unless you have a really aggressive transition. I found that the feel on the BB wasn't just a little tweak to the DI, just stiffer, but a much stiffer feeling overall. The BB compares very well with the Ahina, where I would say the DI doesn't compare as closely to the Kai Li as the BB to Ahina, but that would be a good reference point if you have tried both of those Diamana shafts.

Any direct comparisons on the MJ vs DI? Especially feel, launch and spin?

[quote name='Peanut191' timestamp='1434118363' post='11738166']Agree with Ronnie on the BB being more stiff feeling than the DI. The DI loads much easier and feels softer. If you have tried the DI and it feels whippy, then the BB would be good to try. If the DI feels great, but you want to bring down launch or spin, then I wouldn't go with the BB unless you have a really aggressive transition. I found that the feel on the BB wasn't just a little tweak to the DI, just stiffer, but a much stiffer feeling overall. The BB compares very well with the Ahina, where I would say the DI doesn't compare as closely to the Kai Li as the BB to Ahina, but that would be a good reference point if you have tried both of those Diamana shafts.[/quote]Agree. exactly same situation I experienced. I tip my DI6X 1" so it feels better but still much smoother than BB.

I just got a tour edge cb pro f2 with a AD MJ 8X shaft. I've hit the ad di and ad bb, so I should be able to compare notes after tomorrow morning.

Where does the AD-GT fall in the line up? I am assuming that is more of a true Mid-Mid like the original BlueBoard

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Where does the AD-GT fall in the line up? I am assuming that is more of a true Mid-Mid like the original BlueBoard
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Yup, the GT is almost exactly like a Blueboard. Actually here are the EI charts for the GT and the new 3rd Generation B series. Almost the exact same shaft, but the Diamana B has a little stiffer butt section.

[attachment=2804190:GD-ADGT-EiGj-Table.png]

[attachment=2804188:Diamana-B-EiGj-Table.png]

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Any direct comparisons on the MJ vs DI? Especially feel, launch and spin?
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Check out that new online golf shaft rental biz: [url="http://www.shaftshack.com"]ShaftShack.com[/url], I know they have these shafts. My experience was the MJ was slightly stiffer in the butt and softer in the tip, and very "whip like," the DI is the DI, a legend in its own right! Have experience it to understand