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Maybe they are working with the police and are allowing it to happen
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Maybe. Maybe they're the one group of people in this world who besides you who still believe in Allenby. Or maybe in the end, he'll still be on the hook for all the charges, once their credit fraud department finishes their investigation of this whole thing.
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I can assure you Allenby's credit card company knows that his card is stolen.

I never said I completely believed Allenby. But I find it amusing that you think I do.
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So you're finally on board with the rest of the world that Robert Allenby is lying? Before you were hedging your bets on "the let the facts come out" or whatever the quote was.
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Allenby's original story is not completely true. He claimed that he was just repeating what others told him happened that night. I don't know for sure if he is lying (intentional) or just repeating what others told him (unintentional). Either way, his story is not completely accurate. No one on this board really knows for sure what all went down that night just yet.

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Maybe they are working with the police and are allowing it to happen
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Maybe. Maybe they're the one group of people in this world who besides you who still believe in Allenby. Or maybe in the end, he'll still be on the hook for all the charges, once their credit fraud department finishes their investigation of this whole thing.
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I can assure you Allenby's credit card company knows that his card is stolen.

I never said I completely believed Allenby. But I find it amusing that you think I do.
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So you're finally on board with the rest of the world that Robert Allenby is lying? Before you were hedging your bets on "the let the facts come out" or whatever the quote was.
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Allenby's original story is not completely true. He claimed that he was just repeating what others told him happened that night. I don't know for sure if he is lying (intentional) or just repeating what others told him (unintentional).
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BS. He didn't start in with that until days later after his original story starting breaking down.

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Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
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In a nutshell, RA is now the highest trending person on twitter. Media types and WRXers eagerly await evvery new tweet. This story has taken on a life of it's own and has captured the imagination of the world. It has transcended golf in a way rarely seen and is the second biggest off courwe story ever behind fire hydrant gate, but making up ground every day.

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Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
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Yes. Holy Moses started the thread totally buying the unlikely story.
As the story fell apart all but about three posters became at least skeptical. HM won't admit he had been had. And is still splitting hairs to reframe his original position.

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Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
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Yes. Holy Moses started the thread totally buying the unlikely story.
As the story fell apart all but about three posters became at least skeptical. HM won't admit he had been had. And is still splitting hairs to reframe his original position.
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You forgot the bit about an unnamed righteous poster blowing a gasket.

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[quote name='playa' timestamp='1422146663' post='10811929']
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[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1422144866' post='10811783']
Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
[/quote]
Yes. Holy Moses started the thread totally buying the unlikely story.
As the story fell apart all but about three posters became at least skeptical. HM won't admit he had been had. And is still splitting hairs to reframe his original position.
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You forgot the bit about Kiwi blowing a gasket.
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And Matt J trying to make this all about the time he claims to have been drugged.

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1422146769' post='10811941']
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[quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1422144866' post='10811783']
Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
[/quote]
Yes. Holy Moses started the thread totally buying the unlikely story.
As the story fell apart all but about three posters became at least skeptical. HM won't admit he had been had. And is still splitting hairs to reframe his original position.
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You forgot the bit about Kiwi blowing a gasket.
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And Matt J trying to make this all about the time he claims to have been drugged.
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Lol

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1422146408' post='10811911'][quote name='rbhan12' timestamp='1422144866' post='10811783']
Can someone give me a recap of what has happened?
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Yes. Holy Moses started the thread totally buying the unlikely story.
As the story fell apart all but about three posters became at least skeptical. HM won't admit he had been had. And is still splitting hairs to reframe his original position.[/quote]

Oh my, Allenby got me! Darn Aussie.

How is splitting hairs stating from day one that I was was waiting for the investigation to conclude before I made up my mind on Allenby? I really don't know why you can't give this up. Some sort of weird message board machismo complex.

Splitting hairs...ROFL!

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[quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1422148335' post='10812077'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1421549588' post='10767193'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1421549232' post='10767165']Something is very suspicious about this whole thing...[/quote]

How so?[/quote]

Maybe because his story has more holes than Swiss cheese![/quote]

You're so good at pointing that out a week later you little gumshoe! I responded to that post by saying it's possible that Allenby's story was not true.

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[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422148545' post='10812103']
[quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1422148335' post='10812077'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1421549588' post='10767193'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1421549232' post='10767165']Something is very suspicious about this whole thing...[/quote]

How so?[/quote]

Maybe because his story has more holes than Swiss cheese![/quote]

You're so good at pointing that out a week later you little gumshoe! I responded to that post by saying it's possible that Allenby's story was not true.
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Possibly untrue? You think?

His story is a load of horse s***.

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1422139096' post='10811395']
[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422138621' post='10811357']
Maybe they are working with the police and are allowing it to happen
[/quote]
Maybe. Maybe they're the one group of people in this world who besides you who still believe in Allenby. Or maybe in the end, he'll still be on the hook for all the charges, once their credit fraud department finishes their investigation of this whole thing.
[/quote]

I can assure you Allenby's credit card company knows that his card is stolen.

I never said I completely believed Allenby. But I find it amusing that you think I do.
[/quote]
So you're finally on board with the rest of the world that Robert Allenby is lying? Before you were hedging your bets on "the let the facts come out" or whatever the quote was.
[/quote]

Allenby's original story is not completely true. He claimed that he was just repeating what others told him happened that night. I don't know for sure if he is lying (intentional) or just repeating what others told him (unintentional). Either way, his story is not completely accurate. No one on this board really knows for sure what all went down that night just yet.
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So others told him he was kidnapped from a bar by 6 men. Stuffed in a trunk. Got brutally beaten and robbed. Stuffed back in the trunk and dumped 6 miles from the bar? Someone told him that happened so he decided hey that sounds right lets go with it? HM, come on their is no way he wasn't intentionally lying with that original story.

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[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1422150188' post='10812237']Holy Moses has been a good sport. Actually speaks well of him that he is not a cynic.

Imagine if Moses had been a cynic?!

He'd have got bombed and fell down and got his wallet lifted instead of forging ahead on his vision.[/quote]

I can be as cynical as the next guy when the situation calls for it. There was no reason to crucify Allenby before we knew the whole story. We still don't. Most of the comments directed at Allenby were "He's a fool; I never would have done that (lying)." Yeah right! This thread - while a ton of fun - is a case-study in how devoted us WRXers are to everything related to golf and how we have nothing better to do than discuss golf on and off the course in January.

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[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422148545' post='10812103'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1422148335' post='10812077'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1421549588' post='10767193'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1421549232' post='10767165']Something is very suspicious about this whole thing...[/quote]

How so?[/quote]

Maybe because his story has more holes than Swiss cheese![/quote]

You're so good at pointing that out a week later you little gumshoe! I responded to that post by saying it's possible that Allenby's story was not true.[/quote]

I said it was suspicious the first day the story broke and the first statement from RA was released. You wanted to try and and make my post look bad and know your the only one hanging on for the web of lies to maybe somehow be true.

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[quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1422151720' post='10812375'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422148545' post='10812103'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1422148335' post='10812077'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1421549588' post='10767193'][quote name='whiteflash' timestamp='1421549232' post='10767165']Something is very suspicious about this whole thing...[/quote]

How so?[/quote]

Maybe because his story has more holes than Swiss cheese![/quote]

You're so good at pointing that out a week later you little gumshoe! I responded to that post by saying it's possible that Allenby's story was not true.[/quote]

I said it was suspicious the first day the story broke and the first statement from RA was released. You wanted to try and and make my post look bad and know your the only one hanging on for the web of lies to maybe somehow be true.[/quote]

The dreaded "How so?" Whenever I try to make someone look bad I go to that heavyweight phrase. I will hang on to what I've been saying from the beginning: wait for all the facts to come in. I can't lose.

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[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422151115' post='10812313']
[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1422150188' post='10812237']Holy Moses has been a good sport. Actually speaks well of him that he is not a cynic.

Imagine if Moses had been a cynic?!

He'd have got bombed and fell down and got his wallet lifted instead of forging ahead on his vision.[/quote]

I can be as cynical as the next guy when the situation calls for it. There was no reason to crucify Allenby before we knew the whole story. We still don't. Most of the comments directed at Allenby were "He's a fool; I never would have done that (lying)." Yeah right! This thread - while a ton of fun - is a case-study in how devoted us WRXers are to everything related to golf and how we have nothing better to do than discuss golf on and off the course in January.
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Misrepresenting again.
Much of this thread is guys who admit instances of drinking too much and even lying about it.
What no one but Allenby's doing is, creating a fantastic lie about It, presenting ourselves as victims of a Taken and Taken 2 assault.
That's the part you're missing from your high horse.
It's why you're stance is ridiculous.
You posts early on were completely buying Allenby's story and questioning the character of everyone who didn't.
Just as you're doing now.

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By the way it hasn't been from the beginning more like halfway through the thread. After witnesses were blowing apart his story. He used the homeless as an alibi assuming nobody would ask around.

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1422154450' post='10812583'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1422151115' post='10812313']
[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1422150188' post='10812237']Holy Moses has been a good sport. Actually speaks well of him that he is not a cynic.

Imagine if Moses had been a cynic?!

He'd have got bombed and fell down and got his wallet lifted instead of forging ahead on his vision.[/quote]

I can be as cynical as the next guy when the situation calls for it. There was no reason to crucify Allenby before we knew the whole story. We still don't. Most of the comments directed at Allenby were "He's a fool; I never would have done that (lying)." Yeah right! This thread - while a ton of fun - is a case-study in how devoted us WRXers are to everything related to golf and how we have nothing better to do than discuss golf on and off the course in January.
[/quote]
Misrepresenting again.
Much of this thread is guys who admit instances of drinking too much and even lying about it.
What no one but Allenby's doing is, creating a fantastic lie about It, presenting ourselves as victims of a Taken and Taken 2 assault.
That's the part you're missing from your high horse.
It's why you're stance is ridiculous.
You posts early on were completely buying Allenby's story and questioning the character of everyone who didn't.
Just as you're doing now. [/quote]

I was only passing on what the Golf Channel said early on. Early on I said it's possible Allenby's story wasn't accurate. I said that day one on page 2. But by all means consider that halfway through. I don't see how you can call that completely buying into Allenby's story. You have your mind made up. Believe what you will. I don't think you are familiar with playing the devil's advocate and the difference between explaining why I thought Allenby said the things he did and my personal interpretation of Allenby's story. Some ideas of what happened that night were more outlandish than the claims Allenby himself has made. Those needed to be trashed.

I don't care enough to debate this anymore. Not worth my time.

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Dont understand the hostility towards Moses here. I never saw him say Allenby is telling the truth. Just that he would wait to decide until all the evidence comes in. Sounds like the most reasonable thing said in this thread to me

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I don't think you are familiar with playing the devil's advocate....
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Yeah. That's what people always say about me. Ask the mods.

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Dont understand the hostility towards Moses here. I never saw him say Allenby is telling the truth. Just that he would wait to decide until all the evidence comes in. Sounds like the most reasonable thing said in this thread to me
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In the real world, we'll never know the whole facts. We just know what people said and we make up our minds as to who is telling the truth. Allenby or the homeless woman. Many of us think the homeless woman is more credible. We hope Allenby conquers whatever demons he is battling. All of us wish we had Allenby's golf game and we would like to think we wouldn't waste our talent on fakakta escapades in Hawaii.

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I've been pretty hard on the "mashed potatoes" mopes in the past, but if I don't hear at least one "Get in the trunk!" the next time RA tees it up, I will be thoroughly dissappointed.

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