New Epon Iron Pics on tsg

flopshot99 · February 1, 2015

Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.

vanla01 · February 1, 2015

Here ya go!

flopshot99 · February 1, 2015

Thank you Vanla 01

Hack1 · February 1, 2015

[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
What is best is what works for each individual player.

Epon, is special, no question but so are a lot of other brands.

I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings

I know if I dig further, I'd find a difference of opinion.

Again, Epon is special and I almost bought a set but I wanted something with less offset.

WaltonW · February 1, 2015

[quote name='Hack1' timestamp='1422809202' post='10862279']
[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
What is best is what works for each individual player.

Epon, is special, no question but so are a lot of other brands.

I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
[url="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings"]http://www.tourspecg...f-club-rankings[/url]

I know if I dig further, I'd find a difference of opinion.

Again, Epon is special and I almost bought a set but I wanted something with less offset.
[/quote]

Epon is not in TSG's rankings b/c TSG is no longer an authorized Epon dealer

The last sentence in the link clarifies which products qualify for ranking

[color=#000000]"All clubs that are still current in a brands lineup and offered through the Tourspecgolf.com store qualify."[/color]

coops · February 1, 2015

[quote name='Hack1' timestamp='1422809202' post='10862279']
[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
....
I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
[url="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings"]http://www.tourspecg...f-club-rankings[/url]

...
[/quote]

Tourspecgolf USED to distribute Epon clubs... but at the time of your 'rankings' you should realise they had been stopped from selling Epon clubs for some time... and had been acting quite butt hurt about it.

You could look back at the Tourspecgolf review of the Epon AF-302 for instance:-
http://www.tourspecgolf.com/blog/epon-af-302-forged-iron-review/

"[color=#242424][size=5]I love a lot of things about this iron and easily put it in the [/size][/color][b]top 5 cavity backs of all time[/b][color=#242424][size=5], That's right of ALL TIME it's got too many pro's to be overooked and it's con's are few and far between. It takes a club snob like myself to spot them out and even my criticisms may not be correct to many. Epon continues to put out astounding product!"[/size][/color]

Batman1971 · February 1, 2015

That 303 sure is going to create a lot of buzz .
I'm going to be very interested to hear from guys once they get to try it to see how it stacks up to the 302 .
Any one know when the official release is ?

easylittle5wood · February 2, 2015

Looks like the irons are on the US site, but no new hybrid:

http://epongolf.us/products-af-tourcb.html

http://epongolf.us/products-af-303.html

flopshot99 · February 2, 2015

Wow, I checked the usa site earlier today and nothing.

mdgboxx · February 2, 2015

[quote name='Hack1' timestamp='1422809202' post='10862279']
[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
What is best is what works for each individual player.

Epon, is special, no question but so are a lot of other brands.

I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
[url="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings"]http://www.tourspecg...f-club-rankings[/url]

I know if I dig further, I'd find a difference of opinion.

Again, Epon is special and I almost bought a set but I wanted something with less offset.
[/quote]

Epon is Endo's house brand. That should tell you something.

mrjohnlim · February 2, 2015

For some reason those 2 looked like the Japanese version of the s55 and i25

swizbeatz · February 2, 2015

Will check out in person but so far my wallet is thrilled. Play the 302's for another year or two and send them off for a refinish in copper.

TheBoomer · February 2, 2015

[quote name='Batman1971' timestamp='1422823209' post='10863793']
That 303 sure is going to create a lot of buzz .
I'm going to be very interested to hear from guys once they get to try it to see how it stacks up to the 302 .
Any one know when the official release is ?
[/quote]

I have 2 sets of 302s and for me I will be ordering the AF Tours. I think the AF Tours are the replacements for the 302 and not the 303 version. IMO

Batman1971 · February 2, 2015

[quote name='TheBoomer ' timestamp='1422900261' post='10869095']
[quote name='Batman1971' timestamp='1422823209' post='10863793']
That 303 sure is going to create a lot of buzz .
I'm going to be very interested to hear from guys once they get to try it to see how it stacks up to the 302 .
Any one know when the official release is ?
[/quote]

I have 2 sets of 302s and for me I will be ordering the AF Tours. I think the AF Tours are the replacements for the 302 and not the 303 version. IMO
[/quote]

It's certainly an interesting evolution that Epon has taken here .
There were a lot of people that were surprised when Epon had the pocket cavity in the scoring irons of the 503s . The 303s look very similar to the 503s but without the pocket cavity of course .
They seem to be a lot more GI than the previous 300 series . It's almost like the 303s are falling right in the middle of the 500s & 300s .
I will be interested to hear how they & the AF Tours play .

flopshot99 · February 2, 2015

TSG stated the af tours will be closer to the replacement for the 302's.

Doublebuck · February 6, 2015

[quote name='mdgboxx' timestamp='1422863048' post='10867117']
[quote name='Hack1' timestamp='1422809202' post='10862279']
[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
What is best is what works for each individual player.

Epon, is special, no question but so are a lot of other brands.

I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
[url="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings"]http://www.tourspecg...f-club-rankings[/url]

I know if I dig further, I'd find a difference of opinion.

Again, Epon is special and I almost bought a set but I wanted something with less offset.
[/quote]

Epon is Endo's house brand. That should tell you something.
[/quote]
They take the same carbon, use the same people, tweek some designs and charge the unsuspecting golfer more for the same work, what does that tell me? There is no significant innovation here really. Having said that, would I buy the new 303 if I had the dough, tested them and wanted them. Of course I would. People buy Honda's with an Acura badge, Ford's with a Lincoln badge, Chevy's with a Cadillac badge etc. etc.

flopshot99 · February 7, 2015

One thing stands out for me, the re sale vale of Epons is much higher then everything else. I have often seen Miuras used under 1000 and epons are always more. Should I decide to sell them for a newer model or whatever, the re sale vale being higher is a factor.

Oldplayer · February 7, 2015

The AF Tour cb looks a lot like the AF301's to me. Great irons for sure but nothing new here I think.

swizbeatz · February 7, 2015

[quote name='TheBoomer ' timestamp='1422900261' post='10869095']
[quote name='Batman1971' timestamp='1422823209' post='10863793']
That 303 sure is going to create a lot of buzz .
I'm going to be very interested to hear from guys once they get to try it to see how it stacks up to the 302 .
Any one know when the official release is ?
[/quote]

I have 2 sets of 302s and for me I will be ordering the AF Tours. I think the AF Tours are the replacements for the 302 and not the 303 version. IMO
[/quote]

I would have disagreed but more pictures have been posted, you are definitely right. 4/5 303, 6-P AF tour would be an awesome set. Give us an update when you hit these, and maybe a PM on where you find them locally now that PI is no more.

mdgboxx · February 7, 2015

[quote name='Doublebuck' timestamp='1423283783' post='10904039']
[quote name='mdgboxx' timestamp='1422863048' post='10867117']
[quote name='Hack1' timestamp='1422809202' post='10862279']
[quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1422806007' post='10861923']
Chris posted the epon 303 and new af tour pics and hybrid. My friend In Japan tried both new irons and said they were sensational. Epon is definately considered the best, the pricing is high though.
[/quote]

Flop,

I love you man, but to say "Epon is definitely the best" is just not accurate.
What is best is what works for each individual player.

Epon, is special, no question but so are a lot of other brands.

I quickly tried to find a club ranking to prove my point and Epon did not even make mention by TourSpecGolf in Sept 2014.
[url="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/japanese-golf-club-rankings"]http://www.tourspecg...f-club-rankings[/url]

I know if I dig further, I'd find a difference of opinion.

Again, Epon is special and I almost bought a set but I wanted something with less offset.
[/quote]

Epon is Endo's house brand. That should tell you something.
[/quote]
They take the same carbon, use the same people, tweek some designs and charge the unsuspecting golfer more for the same work, what does that tell me? There is no significant innovation here really. Having said that, would I buy the new 303 if I had the dough, tested them and wanted them. Of course I would. People buy Honda's with an Acura badge, Ford's with a Lincoln badge, Chevy's with a Cadillac badge etc. etc.
[/quote]

Every OEM has proprietary specs for the designing/making of their clubs.

Acushnet was making Spalding (Top Flite) golf balls with a Titleist badge, and guess what happened to them. It's called patent infringement.

theadvocate_ivan · February 9, 2015

[quote name='vanla01' timestamp='1422806847' post='10862017']
Here ya go!
[/quote]

The AF Tours looks similar to the AF 301.

zoltan231 · February 9, 2015

I don't have the cash to spend on them, Im sure theyre amazing clubs, but visually they just don't do it for me!

corky · February 11, 2015

Anybody that hasn't tried an Epon are missing something.........

One of the things not yet mentioned about their irons is that they are all to spec..... Really tight tolerances, if that matters to you then give these boys a whirl, the feel is very soft, maybe that is something you like but maybe you like something a little clickier.

I used to buy nEw clubs every year, bought my 302s 5 years ago and still haven't found anything as good.

Hack1 · February 11, 2015

[quote name='corky' timestamp='1423699256' post='10934655']
Anybody that hasn't tried an Epon are missing something.........

One of the things not yet mentioned about their irons is that they are all to spec..... Really tight tolerances, if that matters to you then give these boys a whirl, the feel is very soft, maybe that is something you like but maybe you like something a little clickier.

I used to buy nEw clubs every year, bought my 302s 5 years ago and still haven't found anything as good.
[/quote]

Have you tried Miura?

flopshot99 · February 12, 2015

Epon is regarded by many as above Miura and without a doubt hold there retail value on the used market

Hack1 · February 12, 2015

I know.....I know.....

Just messing flop shot and I'll stay out.

kaaayelll · February 12, 2015

Couple points here:

- For those who say that a piece of metal is a piece of metal, or a forging is a forging...I don't think that captures the whole story. Materials do differ, and design and manufacturing tolerances matter (Endo does not apply the same tolerences when they produce as OEM as they do making Epon unless they are paid to do so). Armani and Banana Republic are not the same. You may find value in the differences, and that is certainly your prerogative, but they are not the same. Club builders will tell you that by and large.

- Resale value is a funny bird. Epon and Miura may not hold their value that much better than others, depending on the time frame in question. $1,000-1,200 resale for a $2,800-3,000 set of irons is not that fantastic for the original owner. Now, they tend to hold value longer because JDM releases new models less frequently in general, but there is a pretty significant drove-it-off-the-lot effect. Additionally, when new models are released, resale drops pretty dramatically if the new model is deemed better.

On the first point, JDM is worth the difference to me, but I understand those for whom it is not. On the second point, that's all part of the equation of deciding if or when to get into the market.

puresurfr · February 13, 2015

I was hoping the Epon 302s would shave stopped my club buying and save me some cash but sadly it has gotten worse and even more expensive !!!! I started out with a set of used copper AF302s and then graduated to a new set of coppers and then bought a set of satin 302s to use because the coppers were no longer being made and then purchased a set of SUS plated and then a set of non plated and then a set of chrome 302s which i was planning to refinish in black and then a absolutely stunning set of Personals and then a set of Aftour/302 combos followed by another set of satin 302s now I'm eyeing the 303s !

swizbeatz · February 13, 2015

[quote name='puresurfr' timestamp='1423842647' post='10945609']
I was hoping the Epon 302s would shave stopped my club buying and save me some cash but sadly it has gotten worse and even more expensive !!!! I started out with a set of used copper AF302s and then graduated to a new set of coppers and then bought a set of satin 302s to use because the coppers were no longer being made and then purchased a set of SUS plated and then a set of non plated and then a set of chrome 302s which i was planning to refinish in black and then a absolutely stunning set of Personals and then a set of Aftour/302 combos followed by another set of satin 302s now I'm eyeing the 303s !
[/quote]

TSG has a two layer refinish, there are pics of copper under a dark satin, the copper comes through but barely. That's the plan when mine wear out. I applaud your ho'ing though

easylittle5wood · February 14, 2015

[quote name='puresurfr' timestamp='1423842647' post='10945609']
I was hoping the Epon 302s would shave stopped my club buying and save me some cash but sadly it has gotten worse and even more expensive !!!! I started out with a set of used copper AF302s and then graduated to a new set of coppers and then bought a set of satin 302s to use because the coppers were no longer being made and then purchased a set of SUS plated and then a set of non plated and then a set of chrome 302s which i was planning to refinish in black and then a absolutely stunning set of Personals and then a set of Aftour/302 combos followed by another set of satin 302s now I'm eyeing the 303s !
[/quote]

How did you get a set of chrome 302 irons, I don't recall that being an option? How does the feel and looks compare for the sus 316s?

I recently noticed on the epon US site a "seen on the pga tour logo" for the 302s, any idea who's gaming these for free? Thanks.

http://epongolf.us/products-af-302.html

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